SoTier Posted February 4 Posted February 4 18 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Not sure Im seeing a lot of top-notch QBing in that list tho... But Josh is a Coach Maker. It might be more of an accomplishment to turn a D list QB into a C+/B list signal caller, even for a while, than to hone the skills of an A list QB into an All Pro. 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Tough to say whether this is a good hire or not. 2 Quote
st pete gogolak Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Gee, I wonder what enticed him to take a job with Buffalo? Quote
WotAGuy Posted February 4 Posted February 4 14 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Tough to say whether this is a good hire or not. It’s actually pretty easy. There’s three pages of people doing exactly that. 4 Quote
Cash Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Simon said: I was reaaaalllllly unhappy with the decision to retain Brady instead of going outside the organization to bring fresh eyes and minds to bear on the ongoing issues. But I've got to say, the hires they've made to fill out multiple vital assistant roles have been nothing short of outstanding, imo. The lazy analysis boils down roughly to “Beane/Pegula are scapegoating McD, and otherwise running everything back”. I had some of those worries when Brady was first announced as HC. But I think it’s pretty clear now that they’re really trying to have a different voice and energy, and it just so happens that the guy to provide was already on staff. If the lazy analysis was right, we’d see a LOT more continuity on the offensive staff. To date, har we retained any assistant on either side of the ball? 1 2 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted February 4 Posted February 4 43 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Not sure Im seeing a lot of top-notch QBing in that list tho... But Josh is a Coach Maker. He was a QB coach not the GM. He works with whom they pick for him. 2 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 18 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Tough to say whether this is a good hire or not. Not much on the resume to be inspiring, most inspiring sign is how despite the Titans not winning a lot of games last year Cam Ward had a decent rookie year. 15 TD's to 7 INT's (17 to 14 TD to turnover ratio in total) just under 60% completion percentage, and all with not the best offensive supporting cast. Quote
JohnNord Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: Not much on the resume to be inspiring, most inspiring sign is how despite the Titans not winning a lot of games last year Cam Ward had a decent rookie year. 15 TD's to 7 INT's (17 to 14 TD to turnover ratio in total) just under 60% completion percentage, and all with not the best offensive supporting cast. At the end of the day he’s a QB coach and we have Josh. Can’t see any QB Coach making much of a difference 1 1 Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, MJS said: Seems experienced: Denver Broncos (2014): Offensive quality control coach Chicago Bears (2015): Offensive assistant Miami Dolphins (2016–2018): Quarterbacks coach New York Jets (2019–2020): Offensive assistant New England Patriots (2021): Offensive assistant Las Vegas Raiders (2022): Quarterbacks coach Las Vegas Raiders (2023): Quarterbacks coach & interim offensive coordinator Tennessee Titans (2024–2025): Quarterbacks coach Us old folks would say “why can’t he hold a job?” 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Us old folks would say “why can’t he hold a job?” Because the new generation job hops My buddy is a rising Jr hockey coach and has coached in basically every league in NA He changes jobs every 1-2 years climbing the ladder and I believe he will be a D1 head coach one day But I always tell him to stop jumping from job to job... I was like stay at one place for three or four years heck maybe 5 years and build a reputation Now you're considered a mercenary for hire and yeah you might be a good mercenary but I don't think anybody expects loyalty Which also isn't good long term Edited February 4 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
Simon Posted February 4 Posted February 4 9 minutes ago, Cash said: If the lazy analysis was right, we’d see a LOT more continuity on the offensive staff. This was my exact fear. The fact that they've have gone out and pursued aggressive, innovative and well-regarded co-ordinators on both sides of the ball that are independent-minded enough to not serve as highly paid yesmen gives me a lot of hope for how different things might look next year. The days of chickenspit football, playing backwards on defense and sideways on offense, could very well be coming to an abrupt end . And I am here for it. 6 3 Quote
Da webster guy Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, gobills404 said: Not the greatest resume I’ve ever seen. Maybe Brady wants to make sure our QB coach won’t eventually ascend to take his throne as HC. Based on all the other QB coach resumes you looked thru? Do you want someone taking a demotion to QB coach? Hmmmmm. I think you’d want someone who has worked with multiple NFL teams and a resume that looks exactly like his no? Good combo of experiences but not too old. Like I tell everybody worried about Brady and our offensive coaching situation—we’ve scored 30 points a game for six years now it doesn’t really matter who is calling the plays. We will continue to have a top offense and outscore most teams. Our starting three receivers next year are already on the team Shavers Palmer and Shakir. What lets us down in the postseason is our ability to get pressure with four and stop the run. We were a few plays away from being in the Super Bowl this year, Jim Leonard is going to be a breath of fresh air. He’s the hire we needed. Everyone else will be just fine, even without Kromer. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Simon said: This was my exact fear. The fact that they've have gone out and pursued aggressive, innovative and well-regarded co-ordinators on both sides of the ball that are independent-minded enough to not serve as highly paid yesmen gives me a lot of hope for how different things might look next year. The days of chickenspit football, playing backwards on defense and sideways on offense, could very well be coming to an abrupt end . And I am here for it. It's something I'm optimistic over yet you can't keep the staff when you s*** can the head coach who's been here 9 years The only thing you can do is clean house If they kept seven or eight coaches here while promoting Brady that wouldn't really inspire that anything different was going to happen They did need to distance themselves Edited February 4 by Buffalo716 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 42 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Tough to say whether this is a good hire or not. Same, I have no idea who he is Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 4 Posted February 4 9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Because the new generation job hops My buddy is a rising Jr hockey coach and has coached in basically every league in NA He changes jobs every 1-2 years climbing the ladder and I believe he will be a D1 head coach one day But I always tell him to stop jumping from job to job... I was like stay at one place for three or four years heck maybe 5 years and build a reputation Now you're considered a mercenary for hire and yeah you might be a good mercenary but I don't think anybody expects loyalty Which also isn't good long term it’s the way of the world now in every industry. Loyalty is a lost virtue, and people are always looking for short-term gains and avoiding having to push through a hard situation. Quote
BillsFan4 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Took over play calling for Tennessee's offense in late September and they saw a big bump in EPA: the raiders offense made a jump when he took over too. They went from averaging 15.8 pts a game to 22.9 pts a game. https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2024/05/15/bo-hardegree-tennessee-titans-will-levis-quarterback-coach-vols-football/73561769007/ Also: Quote Hardegree's pedigree includes working with a number of pass-inclined coaches and big-name quarterbacks. He was an offensive assistant alongside Callahan on the 2014 Denver Broncos, a team quarterbacked by Peyton Manning. He followed coach Adam Gase from Denver to stops in Chicago, Miami and with the New York Jets, serving his first three years as quarterbacks coach in Miami from 2016 to 2018. Then he latched on with the New England Patriots for a year, working alongside coordinator Josh McDaniels, who ultimately brought him to Las Vegas. Edited February 4 by BillsFan4 1 Quote
DeepPass Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 hours ago, MJS said: Seems experienced: Denver Broncos (2014): Offensive quality control coach Chicago Bears (2015): Offensive assistant Miami Dolphins (2016–2018): Quarterbacks coach New York Jets (2019–2020): Offensive assistant New England Patriots (2021): Offensive assistant Las Vegas Raiders (2022): Quarterbacks coach Las Vegas Raiders (2023): Quarterbacks coach & interim offensive coordinator Tennessee Titans (2024–2025): Quarterbacks coach 7 teams in 10 years? Quote
TheBrownBear Posted February 4 Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, DeepPass said: 7 teams in 10 years? Well, on the plus side, if you don't like him, he'll be gone in a year. 1 1 Quote
juno999 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 50 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: Based on all the other QB coach resumes you looked thru? Do you want someone taking a demotion to QB coach? Hmmmmm. I think you’d want someone who has worked with multiple NFL teams and a resume that looks exactly like his no? Good combo of experiences but not too old. Like I tell everybody worried about Brady and our offensive coaching situation—we’ve scored 30 points a game for six years now it doesn’t really matter who is calling the plays. We will continue to have a top offense and outscore most teams. Our starting three receivers next year are already on the team Shavers Palmer and Shakir. What lets us down in the postseason is our ability to get pressure with four and stop the run. We were a few plays away from being in the Super Bowl this year, Jim Leonard is going to be a breath of fresh air. He’s the hire we needed. Everyone else will be just fine, even without Kromer. Bills need receivers. Shavers torn acl and Palmer was meh. Don’t kid yourself. Quote
Starr Almighty Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 hours ago, MJS said: Seems experienced: Denver Broncos (2014): Offensive quality control coach Chicago Bears (2015): Offensive assistant Miami Dolphins (2016–2018): Quarterbacks coach New York Jets (2019–2020): Offensive assistant New England Patriots (2021): Offensive assistant Las Vegas Raiders (2022): Quarterbacks coach Las Vegas Raiders (2023): Quarterbacks coach & interim offensive coordinator Tennessee Titans (2024–2025): Quarterbacks coach not to be a wet blanket but not one of those teams had even an average QB hopefully it was nit his doing Quote
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