Josh interviews today (Feb 3)

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, JohnNord said:

I love Josh but the excuses need to stop.  
 

He needs to finish a game when he has a chance to win with a TD.  
 

Those endings are the differences between a great QB and a legend.  

How many times a game does he have to do it? How often has he left the field with the lead, defense blows it, he takes the lead back and defense blows it again? Like, I get it he's had opportunity to make something else happen. He had a couple bad moments at the end of the Denver game especially. But how many times does he need to win a game in order for it to stay won? 

 

[stevewin]

Funny - I never even heard of Nick Wright until everyone started complaining about him.  Then this year I happened upon FTF episodes and found I actually enjoy the guys - although since I really started watching more this year I assume the Chiefs failures might have toned Wright down a bit 

[Virgil]

Here’s the follow up 

 

 

[SCBills]

12 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

I love Josh but the excuses need to stop.  
 

He needs to finish a game when he has a chance to win with a TD.  
 

Those endings are the differences between a great QB and a legend.  

He has to finish the story.  Too many games are ending with Josh falling in the clutch

Josh Allen getting blamed for failing in the clutch. 
 

[NeverOutNick]

7 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

I love Josh but the excuses need to stop.  
 

He needs to finish a game when he has a chance to win with a TD.  
 

Those endings are the differences between a great QB and a legend.  

He has to finish the story.  Too many games are ending with Josh falling in the clutch

How many times have these “great” QBs you speak of had to put up 28+ points with crap weapons against great defenses? Is it Josh’s fault cooks, Kincaid and Diggs couldn’t make the catch to get us to the SB? Is it Josh’s fault his team blew a lead with 13 seconds left. Those “great” QBs also had great coaches who didn’t make their QB put Superman capes on every game. They were allowed to have stinkers like Maye has had every game this playoffs or how Mahomes has played the last 3 years outside of games against us and the amazing McD defenses. You’re totally clueless if you can’t see that McD was the only reason we were even in a position to lose those games. Dude was a lame duck coach in the playoffs never having his D ready against the top competition. Wake up and realize how lucky we are to have the best player on the planet or go cheer for another team until Josh is gone and then you can come back and cheer for this loser franchise again

[JohnNord]

16 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

How many times a game does he have to do it? How often has he left the field with the lead, defense blows it, he takes the lead back and defense blows it again? Like, I get it he's had opportunity to make something else happen. He had a couple bad moments at the end of the Denver game especially. But how many times does he need to win a game in order for it to stay won? 

 

How many times a game does he have to do it? How often has he left the field with the lead, defense blows it

 

Lets explore… well start in the 4th Quarter.

2023

The Chiefs took the lead in 4Q with 12:00 left 27-24.  There was still a full quarter to play.  
Josh Allen never took the lead.  In fact, he failed to score any more points and missed Shakir in the endzone for a TD.  He did get them in FG range which Bass missed.  
 

2024

Bills TIE the game at 29 with 4:00 left.  Kansas City kicks a FG.  Josh gains 5 yards of passing offense.  The dies on the Buffalo side of the field when Josh can figure out the Spags blitz.  Of course, Kincaid drops a pass he should have caught.  
 

2025

The Bills take the lead with 3:00 left despite putting the defense in bad positions multiple times due to 4 turnovers.  Denver scores with :50 left.   Josh misses wide open WRs and has to settle for a FG.  
 

In OT the defense makes the stop.  All Josh needs is a FG and he fails.  
 

so to answer your question 

How many times a game does he have to do it? How often has he left the field with the lead, defense blows it?

 

It happened 1 time in the last 3 years. 
 

Ho many times did Josh fail to score the game winning TD.

 

3 years in a row:  

 

he’s gotta find a way.  No excuses 

6 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

How many times have these “great” QBs you speak of had to put up 28+ points with crap weapons against great defenses? Is it Josh’s fault cooks, Kincaid and Diggs couldn’t make the catch to get us to the SB? Is it Josh’s fault his team blew a lead with 13 seconds left. Those “great” QBs also had great coaches who didn’t make their QB put Superman capes on every game. They were allowed to have stinkers like Maye has had every game this playoffs or how Mahomes has played the last 3 years outside of games against us and the amazing McD defenses. You’re totally clueless if you can’t see that McD was the only reason we were even in a position to lose those games. Dude was a lame duck coach in the playoffs never having his D ready against the top competition. Wake up and realize how lucky we are to have the best player on the planet or go cheer for another team until Josh is gone and then you can come back and cheer for this loser franchise again

A whole lot of excuses.  Bottom line is the game was winnable at the end with a TD

[Alphadawg7]

Excellent piece and I don’t know how many people watch this show, but it’s evolved into one of the better shows in terms of mainstream sports media.  Nick has graduated through success to get away from the outlandish things that fall into the Skip or Stephen A categories and he’s much more fair in a lot of his takes and has been quite complimentary to Josh and the Bills the last couple seasons.  Where he kind of pushes back is when people say he is the best player in the NFL when he is a Mahomes and Chiefs guy and thinks he is clearly the best, but credits Allen as the 2nd best player.  Which as he said are fair takes.

 

But this show balances fun with mostly quality takes and solid sports journalism.  Unlike others shows like First Take that is just unwatchable hot garbage.  
 

But back to this bit, just a great appearance by Josh as usual, and thought the crew was great both during and in the recap after.  

[JohnNord]

1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:

How many times have these “great” QBs you speak of had to put up 28+ points with crap weapons against great defenses? Is it Josh’s fault cooks, Kincaid and Diggs couldn’t make the catch to get us to the SB? Is it Josh’s fault his team blew a lead with 13 seconds left. Those “great” QBs also had great coaches who didn’t make their QB put Superman capes on every game. They were allowed to have stinkers like Maye has had every game this playoffs or how Mahomes has played the last 3 years outside of games against us and the amazing McD defenses. You’re totally clueless if you can’t see that McD was the only reason we were even in a position to lose those games. Dude was a lame duck coach in the playoffs never having his D ready against the top competition. Wake up and realize how lucky we are to have the best player on the planet or go cheer for another team until Josh is gone and then you can come back and cheer for this loser franchise again

How many games has Mahomes had 4 turnovers?

Edited February 4 by JohnNord

[NeverOutNick]

14 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Here’s the follow up 

 

 

Love me some Danny Parsons. Good stuff 

1 minute ago, JohnNord said:

How many games has Mahomes thrown 4 INTs?

Josh didn’t throw 4 interceptions 😉…The Browns need fans. It’s only a 3 hour drive from Buffalo. We’ll call you when Josh leaves. 
 

[H2o]

Thanks for posting @Virgil. That was a good listen. 

 

i have come to realize that some people on this board are just miserable. Nothing will ever make them happy. Josh could be 25 for 26, with 400yds, and 4 TD's. But if that one pass not completed was an INT, and we lost by one score, Josh would be "the reason" we lost. Josh is the reason this team even makes the Playoffs every year. He's why we're right there every game. He probably saved the Franchise. I'd say he's at least half the reason a new stadium was built. People are taking his greatness for granted. If the Cooks play is called correctly, a catch, then we're playing NE for a chance to go to the SB. I would have liked our chances. But here we are, in the midst of a bunch of sweeping changes. Josh isn't making excuses, he's being honest and candid. You can tell he's still hurt by all of this, but you can also tell he has hope for the future at this point. I do too. Go Bills. 

[NeverOutNick]

2 minutes ago, H2o said:

Thanks for posting @Virgil. That was a good listen. 

 

i have come to realize that some people on this board are just miserable. Nothing will ever make them happy. Josh could be 25 for 26, with 400yds, and 4 TD's. But if that one pass not completed was an INT, and we lost by one score, Josh would be "the reason" we lost. Josh is the reason this team even makes the Playoffs every year. He's why we're right there every game. He probably saved the Franchise. I'd say he's at least half the reason a new stadium was built. People are taking his greatness for granted. If the Cooks play is called correctly, a catch, then we're playing NE for a chance to go to the SB. I would have liked our chances. But here we are, in the midst of a bunch of sweeping changes. Josh isn't making excuses, he's being honest and candid. You can tell he's still hurt by all of this, but you can also tell he has hope for the future at this point. I do too. Go Bills. 

[Alphadawg7]

14 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Funny - I never even heard of Nick Wright until everyone started complaining about him.  Then this year I happened upon FTF episodes and found I actually enjoy the guys - although since I really started watching more this year I assume the Chiefs failures might have toned Wright down a bit 

He toned down a few years back as his success grew and he didn’t have to do things to get views.  He’s actually pretty good now and rather entertaining in general 

[BuffaloBillyG]

18 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

How many games has Mahomes thrown 4 INTs?

If you are talking about in a single game, never. Not once. You know who else has never thrown 4INTs in a game? Josh Allen. 

[JohnNord]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

If you are talking about in a single game, never. Not once. You know who else has never thrown 4INTs in a game? Josh Allen. 

My bad… how many times have those QB’s had 4 turnovers?  

[JohnNord]

21 minutes ago, H2o said:

Thanks for posting @Virgil. That was a good listen. 

 

i have come to realize that some people on this board are just miserable. Nothing will ever make them happy. Josh could be 25 for 26, with 400yds, and 4 TD's. But if that one pass not completed was an INT, and we lost by one score, Josh would be "the reason" we lost. Josh is the reason this team even makes the Playoffs every year. He's why we're right there every game. He probably saved the Franchise. I'd say he's at least half the reason a new stadium was built. People are taking his greatness for granted. If the Cooks play is called correctly, a catch, then we're playing NE for a chance to go to the SB. I would have liked our chances. But here we are, in the midst of a bunch of sweeping changes. Josh isn't making excuses, he's being honest and candid. You can tell he's still hurt by all of this, but you can also tell he has hope for the future at this point. I do too. Go Bills. 

Holy hyperbole!  This is gaslighting to the extreme. 
 

I know that Josh accepts the blame.  That’s why he was so upset after the game.  He knew a big part of the loss is on him.  The problem is fans that don’t want to put ANY blame on Josh.  
 

Im not saying he’s the biggest the reason why the lose these playoffs games at all.  But I am saying he’s part of the reason.  He’s chances to win the game at the end and he hasn’t come through.  I also feel he’s needed playmakers on both sides of the ball (especially on offense ). 
 

If this was Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, or Patrick Mahomes who failed to lead their offense to the game winningTD three years in a row, you wouldn’t hesitate to criticize.  
 

But it’s like you aren’t allow to criticize Josh Allen at all.  
 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

 

Fun listen.  You can tell they all like him.  Always fun to see Josh and Nick interact.  They did ask Josh about the stigma of not getting to a SB and the expectations this past playoffs of not facing the other big QBs. 
 

Josh said he’s rooting for Darnold to win it. 
 

Here’s the follow up piece.  All good things, and some things from Nick I wonder about too sometimes:

 

 

 

Thanks for posting. I'm going to listen later. I'm really surprised Josh went on the show... not necessarily because of the anti-Bills nature of the show, but because I rarely see him go on these types of shows. I think he went on with Cowherd once in 2021.

 

FWIW... I actually really like Nick Wright while simultaneously getting consistently very annoyed at his constant troll job of the Bills. He's one of the smartest and most articulate and open minded guys in his field... but it's presented in a suit of massive bias. Weird combination and weird to say... but makes him massively entertaining.

 

I used to also really like Wildes, who definitely brings all the humor to the show. The problem is he's been given much more of a platform now with Maye and the Patriots and it's troll job annoying without any thoughtful undertones.

 

I watch clips pretty consistently but haven't watched the last couple weeks for obvious reasons.

1 hour ago, JohnNord said:

I love Josh but the excuses need to stop.  
 

He needs to finish a game when he has a chance to win with a TD.  
 

Those endings are the differences between a great QB and a legend.  

He has to finish the story.  Too many games are ending with Josh falling in the clutch

 

Nick Wright??? Is that you???

 

Troll extraordinaire 

[GroteStreet]

1 hour ago, JohnNord said:

I love Josh but the excuses need to stop.  
 

He needs to finish a game when he has a chance to win with a TD.  
 

Those endings are the differences between a great QB and a legend.  

He has to finish the story.  Too many games are ending with Josh falling in the clutch

Well maybe he is just the 1st or 2nd best qb of his generation and not one of the all time greats - Unitas, Montana, and Brady.  That is ok.  Thousands of good qbs are not in those three’s league.

the defense has to do enough to not force Josh to play a perfect game just for his team to have a chance.  How about the defense hold a team to 7 points in a playoff game next year.

[Draconator]

28 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

My bad… how many times have those QB’s had 4 turnovers?  

Would you like it if we had a video camera at your workplace and we all pointed out all your failures?

[JohnNord]

2 minutes ago, GroteStreet said:

Well maybe he is just the 1st or 2nd best qb of his generation and not one of the all time greats - Unitas, Montana, and Brady.  That is ok.  Thousands of good qbs are not in those three’s league.

the defense has to do enough to not force Josh to play a perfect game just for his team to have a chance.  How about the defense hold a team to 7 points in a playoff game next year.

LOL so you don’t want the QB to play a perfect game?  You now want the defense to play a perfect game?  Noted.  
 

we’ll just shift “perfect” around 

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, JohnNord said:

I love Josh but the excuses need to stop.  
 

He needs to finish a game when he has a chance to win with a TD.  
 

Those endings are the differences between a great QB and a legend.  

He has to finish the story.  Too many games are ending with Josh falling in the clutch

You mean in the divisional round when he led TWO damn TD drives in the last 2 minutes of the game?  Only to have McDermott crap the bed TWICE in the 2 minutes?  Including Josh handing sean the freaking lead with 13 SECONDS LEFT?

 

Josh has played pure stud football only to have Sean blow it repeatedly.   Maybe that the biggest issue keeping Allen and the Bills back is gone, we can finally win one.

Edited February 4 by SoonerBillsFan