US Egg Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Walking Tall said: Seriously. You’ve heard one show you’ve heard them all. Nothing changes. Guess I’m defending them saying it’s a format that peaked 20 years ago, radio in general that is. So much more now providing alternatives, be it informative, lighthearted, serious. Radio is a dinosaur. …..forgot comedic, which Schopp so wittingly flails at. Edited February 3 by US Egg 1 Quote
Steptide Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Everyone is saying that the bills want to have control and control the narrative. This is 100% monetarily driven. The only way they'd make a big move like this is for one reason - money. They will capatalize in a different way than radio. This isn't a power grab like people think, it's just buisness deals 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) Promo is most likely right that this is a long time coming, and about $. The criticisms of WRs is incidental last year. I’ll be interested tomorrow how this is handled if at all. If you want the local radio broadcast of the game, it’s always on NFLR. As far as the afternoon shows, I never listen anyway. Tasker can’t formulate a complete sentence, and the afternoon guys are a joke. I’ve enjoyed for more than a decade Movin the Chains on NFLR from 3-7. It’s always between sales calls and meetings so I’m in and out. Edited February 3 by machine gun kelly 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted February 3 Posted February 3 23 minutes ago, The Wiz said: It's not exactly "playing nice". Being critical of a team that you cover and are expected to talk to the fans on a daily basis is expected. Now the bills are good so they are being less critical. The things they are being critical about (WR) is a valid concern, so has everyone else. Not just locally but in the national media as well. Good points Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 3 Posted February 3 The kids they have and Jeremy white are so unbelievably terrible they finally blew this. The 2 teams they have and ruined it. They know absolutely nothing about any sport and it’s sickening to listen to. It’s legitimately insulting when the kids are on because they know less than 80% of the listeners and that’s generous. That’s not ok. 2 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: I thought that as well, but is he not the CEO and President of operations now? Terry is still CEO and President of the Buffalo Bills. Beane is "President of Football Operations" which is basically "boss of front office and coaches", but there is still a whole other side that runs the business business. Additionally, both the Bills and Sabres are leaving WGR. Beane doesnt work with the Sabres. He's in charge of football matters for the Bills. This is more in Pete Guelli's realm than Beane's. Guelli is President of Business Operations. More than anything though, these types of changes take months of planning. The contracts you have to get through the legal departments. The technology that needs to be planned, purchased, installed, etc. These are billion-dollar entities in a trillion dollar league. No one is shooting from the hip when it comes to the business side. Edited February 3 by DrDawkinstein 4 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted February 3 Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Hey @Kirby Jackson, what do you think about this? You worked in the NBA. If a local station said "no thanks" to paying for your games, and no one else was willing, wouldn't that be a red flag for that market's viability? Personally, I think it’s an evolution. Why let someone else have the advertising dollars? You’re seeing it with MLB right now (albeit slightly different). There’s no need for a middle man anymore. You have more control and can make more dollars. In the past you needed a partner because of their reach. You needed distribution. Now the world is smaller. The Bills and Sabres don’t need WGR to get their broadcasts to the audience. They can do it themselves and keep all of the advertising revenue associated with it. 4 1 Quote
zow2 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) Get used to it. My early 20’s kids and 18 yr old don’t even turn on the TV or listen to the radio. They stream all media from their phones or laptops. If it’s not there they don’t watch or listen. They think AM radio is something i used to listen to in the 1970’s. Edited February 3 by zow2 1 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: The kids they have and Jeremy white are so unbelievably terrible they finally blew this. The 2 teams they have and ruined it. They know absolutely nothing about any sport and it’s sickening to listen to. It’s legitimately insulting when the kids are on because they know less than 80% of the listeners and that’s generous. That’s not ok. Listening to them talk over each other is obnoxious and sometimes unlistenable. They have improved a little bit in that area, to be fair. But as soon as someone says 3 words you can hear Jeremy do that inhale into the mic which means he's about to cut them off mid sentence. I'm a guy who loves radio and respects the medium, probably as a result of all the driving I do, so it pains me to say it but broadcasting is really going downhill in general. Podcasts are where it's at now because of creative freedom and the lack of strict time constraints. There's no need for producers and all the staff. One or two or three or however many people can just sit down in their basements in different areas of the country and broadcast without spending a dime or answering to anyone. Edited February 3 by TheFunPolice 1 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted February 3 Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, Virgil said: I thought that as well, but is he not the CEO and President of operations now? Pete Guelli is the head of business operations (or whatever that title may be). Think about it like this, Beane oversees everything to do with football players and coaches. That means strength, health, roster, draft, free agency, etc.. Guelli is in charge of everything non-football. He oversees marketing, ticket sales, sponsorships, stadium operations, community relations, food and beverage, etc… 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Beane is going ti have his own weekly show on the new home of the bills and call it “the WR Train” 1 Quote
US Egg Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Just saw it referenced back in here, the filling in of 10-3 with ESPN. Suddenly I’m not feeling so giddy about all this. 😬 1 Quote
FLFan Posted February 3 Posted February 3 32 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Too much competition. If you have Sirius XM you can listen to all NFL games online or in the car. Just one example. I think NHL too, but I'm not sure. Yes on the NHL. If you pay extra for the subscription for either league. Same with any other distributor out of market, including streaming. You cannot listen to out of market games via Audacy. This changes nothing really for out of market listeners. You will still need to license a source. It could mean loss of actual radio broadcasts for local listeners, but I suspect some local station will poney up for either or both radio broadcast rights. 1 Quote
Victory Formation Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I don't really listen to WGR, never have.. I listen to: 1.) Cover 1 (By far the best IMO.) 2.) Locked On Billls (Joe Marino, also very good.) 3.) Then I come here.. (TBD) 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: Listening to them talk over each other is obnoxious and sometimes unlistenable. They have improved a little bit in that area, to be fair. But as soon as someone says 3 words you can hear Jeremy do that inhale into the mic which means he's about to cut them off mid sentence. I'm a guy who loves radio and respects the medium, probably as a result of all the driving I do, so it pains me to say it but broadcasting is really going downhill in general. Podcasts are where it's at now because of creative freedom and the lack of strict time constraints. Jeremy is so bad. He has been there forever he’s about as clueless as anyone can ever be about any subject. They always use stats that only they consider important and then try to argue against common sense with them as reasoning. The kid on the weekend and night, Derrick Kramer or whatever…I feel bad because for all i I know he’s in here but my god. He can’t have that job. It’s not even painful. It’s like im so embarrassed for him to have it even on live air. 1 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 minute ago, FLFan said: Yes on the NHL. If you pay extra for the subscription for either league. Same with any other distributor out of market, including streaming. You cannot listen to out of market games via Audacy. This changes nothing really for out of market listeners. You will still need to license a source. It could mean loss of actual radio broadcasts for local listeners, but I suspect some local station will poney up for either or both radio broadcast rights. I remember when 97 Rock was the home of the Bills for a while before this deal was signed with WGR... If I'm a station like that now, though, why pay the Bills for rights to something that will be watered down anyway? If it's broadcast rights on the radio but that doesn't include exclusive streaming rights then my audience is smaller and smaller with each slice of the pie that goes to someone else. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: I don't really listen to WGR, never have.. I listen to: 1.) Cover 1 (By far the best IMO.) 2.) Locked On Billls (Joe Marino, also very good.) 3.) Then I come here.. (TBD) I don't listen to their sports shows But if I'm driving during a game I listen on the radio.. heck I've had the radio on and muted the TV back in van millers time even if it didn't sync I like listening to post game pressers on the radio If it goes completely off air that sucks because I'm not a big app guy... I don't want to download an app just to listen to a football game Edited February 3 by Buffalo716 2 1 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted February 3 Posted February 3 This is better news than the Leonhard hiring imo 1 Quote
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