Warren Sharp: How McDermott laid the blueprint for beating Drake Maye

[Mikie2times]

11 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

He cost us a dynasty?  That’s a bit much.  I’ll say this - the defense is predicated on getting to the QB with the front 4 rushers.  

He never had that in Buffalo and that’s largely why the defense continually failed.  It’s not only the players on the edge but also the interior.  The guys that they re-signed really weren’t even that good 
 

The closest might have been 2022 with Von Miller.  If you want the beginning of the season with Von/Oliver/DaQuan/Rosseau that defense played well because it was executed as designed.   They were giving up 20 or less points most weeks.  Injuries ended that.  
 

Since they never found a combo that was anywhere near as effective.  It was especially bad this season on the front and back of the defense and that’s why McDermott had to throw out every coverage. For the talent he had, they did a decent job.   But ultimately that’s why they had issues in the post season.  
 

 

Is it? Fractional improvement defensively and we would have reached multiple Super Bowls. Not exactly a leap. Ed is borderline Pro Bowl player. Groot is a + starter across any team in football. We had Bosa, Floyd, Miller and the like on opposite ends. AJ is a + pass rusher. It's not a bad unit. He needed multiple all pro's, it wasn't that. Almost no line is.  If that's the baseline for your scheme to be effective you should find a new line of work.  

[JohnNord]

10 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Is it? Fractional improvement defensively and we would have reached multiple Super Bowls. Not exactly a leap. Ed is borderline Pro Bowl player. Groot is a + starter across any team in football. We had Bosa, Floyd, Miller and the like on opposite ends. AJ is a + pass rusher. It's not a bad unit. He needed multiple all pro's, it wasn't that. Almost no line is.  If that's the baseline for your scheme to be effective you should find a new line of work.  

 I don’t think it’s the scheme as much as it the talent.  They never found the right combo.   Rosseau has been solid against the run but never a great pass rusher.  We’ll see if Bosa is a world beater next season.  Don’t think he will be.  
 

maybe the fact that the talent needed was so hard to find makes the scheme unrealistic 

Edited February 3 by JohnNord

[T.E.]

24 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Wait.... you mean 70% of the tickets, or 70% of the cash here? Because those are very different

 

If it is the cash, what are the mechanics behind that? That doesnt seem right

69% of the tickets and 75% of the money.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/betting/article/seahawks-vs-patriots-super-bowl-60-odds-betting-a-1000-super-bowl-mvp-bet-on--a-kicker-181230024.html

[Captain Hindsight]

2 hours ago, JohnNord said:

according to Bills fans, Sean McDermott sucks 

McDermott is a good coach. He was also fired because he wasn’t the right coach for this team. Both things can be true 

 

He had plenty of chances. The Bills were right to move on. It remains to be seen if the moves since then were the right call 

[JohnNord]

4 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

McDermott is a good coach. He was also fired because he wasn’t the right coach for this team. Both things can be true 

 

He had plenty of chances. The Bills were right to move on. It remains to be seen if the moves since then were the right call 

We’re about to find out

[US Egg]

34 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

I think 5 turnovers ate Sean’s lunch if we’re bending honest here… huh huh huh

.....that be more like stole his lunch. That game can’t be pinned on him.

Edited February 3 by US Egg

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

48 minutes ago, turbo044 said:

Or if he doesn't short hop the ball to Shakir, or if Cook doesn't fumble, or if Cooks catches the ball (if he actually didn't catch it??), or if Maclin )or whatever his name is) runs the route correctly before the throw to Cooks, or if the olineman makes a basic fumble recovery on Josh's first fumble.  Any other play that I am missing??

 

Ogunjobi jumping offside directly cost us 3 points

[T master]

3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

See once again I say that if the refs in the Denver game would have made the correct call the Bills would have beaten the Pats in the championship game & been I the superbowl !!! 

 

Not to mention the Bills have a much superior team when playing in the snow which would have given them the game !! 

[JohnNord]

8 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Ogunjobi jumping offside directly cost us 3 points

Yes… too many mistakes 

[Mikie2times]

43 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

 I don’t think it’s the scheme as much as it the talent.  They never found the right combo.   Rosseau has been solid against the run but never a great pass rusher.  We’ll see if Bosa is a world beater next season.  Don’t think he will be.  
 

maybe the fact that the talent needed was so hard to find makes the scheme unrealistic 

I agree they didn't find the right combo. It will be interesting to see how he does outside of this situation. I found it impossible to evaluate his success with Allen and the competition in the AFC east for most of his tenure. Clearly we had a lot of regular season success. Clearly he kept the team in a place of consistency which IS a skill. I will never deny him that. Ultimately I think he held us back from more. We should be able to learn more about that opinion next season along with when he coaches again. 

Edited February 3 by Mikie2times

[13 Seconds to Mars]

2 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Cook doesn't fumble, PI is called equally,  the bounce pass to Shakir. We had so many opportunities to win even with the turnovers

Yes, but you could say Denver had ample opportunities to close out the game as well. A 3 and out is a turnover in my book. Their offense stalled out and let Buffalo climb right back into it numerous times. Refs needed to get it right and they didn’t. i’ll die on that hill

[uticaclub]

2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Yes, but you could say Denver had ample opportunities to close out the game as well. A 3 and out is a turnover in my book. Their offense stalled out and let Buffalo climb right back into it numerous times. Refs needed to get it right and they didn’t. i’ll die on that hill

Their QB is Bo Nix. Two, 3 & outs is not that impressive

[JohnNord]

11 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Their QB is Bo Nix. Two, 3 & outs is not that impressive

The problem with your argument is want to write off an offense that was inconsistent and committed and egregious 5 turnovers, but not a defense that was inconsistent and gave up points largely because of those turnovers .  It doesn’t make sense

17 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I agree they didn't find the right combo. It will be interesting to see how he does outside of this situation. I found it impossible to evaluate his success with Allen and the competition in the AFC east for most of his tenure. Clearly we had a lot of regular season success. Clearly he kept the team in a place of consistency which IS a skill. I will never deny him that. Ultimately I think he held us back from more. We should be able to learn more about that opinion next season along with when he coaches again. 

Honestly I think a lot of these questions will be answered as the season unfolds.   If Brady cruises to a 13-4 record with the #1, the talk of McDermott’s d holding them back could be right 

[BananaB]

2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

and guess what, we lost by 3 in OT. So, yes the turnovers helped lead to the loss. 

So did giving up 7 while up 4 with 4 minutes left.

Know what else would have save 3 points, if the D didn’t go offside on the first drive when Denver fumbled. . 🤷🏼‍♂️

Edited February 3 by BananaB

[The Jokeman]

11 minutes ago, BananaB said:

So did giving up 7 while up 4 with 4 minutes left. 🤷🏼‍♂️

And if Josh doesn't fumble at end of first half then defense only gave up 27 and we'd win assuming the offense can kill clock at end of the game. 

[BananaB]

11 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

And if Josh doesn't fumble at end of first half then defense only gave up 27 and we'd win assuming the offense can kill clock at end of the game. 

We could do this all day. We lost, both sides of the ball were the problem. O gave up turnovers, D couldn’t make stops in the last 2 minutes before half and the last 2 minutes of the game. O still put 30, couple of there turnovers also took points of the board, 30 is still pretty good against one of the best Ds in the league…. Fact is all we needed was 27 if the D could have made a stop. Never happened. 3rd and 11 McD  went safe and gave up an easy first down. When Tre went down on that drive, McD learned nothing from Savage getting beat earlier in the game when Lewis went out. It’s over with. We needed a change for a few years now. How long has our 3rd and long D been one of the worst in the league? How long have we struggled in the final 2 minutes of halves? In the games we been eliminated our last sack was from Jerry Hughes, how long ago was that? 

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, JohnNord said:

according to Bills fans, Sean McDermott sucks 

 

How many Bills fans signed that petition to reinstate him?

[JohnNord]

11 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

How many Bills fans signed that petition to reinstate him?

How many fans blames alone for for the Denver loss.  Quite a few 

[SoCal Deek]

4 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

McDermott is a good coach. He was also fired because he wasn’t the right coach for this team. Both things can be true 

 

He had plenty of chances. The Bills were right to move on. It remains to be seen if the moves since then were the right call 

McD is a good coach and he may have been the right Coach for a time, but no one should be under the false impression that he wasn’t given enough time. He definitely was. 

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

McD is a good coach and he may have been the right Coach for a time, but no one should be under the false impression that he wasn’t given enough time. He definitely was. 

I gave him the benefit of the doubt after 13 seconds, but after the divisional loss to the chiefs in Buffalo and the AFCCG last year, I really had my doubts. The AFC was so weak this year, not beating Denver was inexcusable. He had to go