Beane Talks WR’s from Trade Deadline

[Thurman#1]

4 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

I'm hesitant to keep piling on Beane at this point but one thing I really disagree on is how he clings to those first round picks. Show me a late round pick that would impact us as much as Waddle for the next two seasons? You send the 2026 pick and don't think twice. Even more so because the 2027 pick, by all accounts, is going to be way more valuable. 

 

 

Yeah, but there's zero reason to think the 2026 pick gets it done. They didn't counter. That likely means they just weren't going to deal with us.

 

Negotiation's first rule is you don't bargain against yourself.

 

 

4 hours ago, JohnNord said:

he does this after every trade deadline, season and draft.  He makes all kind of excuses why he failed.  Go listen to WGR the day after the draft last year.  He offered similar excuses as to why he didn’t draft a WR.  

 

 

One way to say that is "make all kind of excuses why he failed."

 

Another, just as reasonable, is that he explained what happened.

 

That's only the way you frame it. He's supposed to explain what happened.

[buffblue]

1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Hard to trust he'll handle it right? Fair opinion.

 

Hard to trust he's telling the truth about what happened? Not at all. He's been honest with extreme consistency.

I'd love to know how you could feel trustworthy in Beane at this point? 

 

I don't think he has been honest at all. He's made excuses time and time again for his failure to get the greatest player in Bills history the requisite help, consequently wasting Allen's entire 20's.

[Thurman#1]

3 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

All this whining about Beane not getting a WR, yet we still had a top 5 offense and scored 27 and 30 points on the road in the playoffs while our QB was playing with a broken foot.  Yet people wanna bring back Mr. 13 seconds and his Dick Jauron defense.  

 

 

McDermott was the head coach.

 

He was responsible for the defense. And the offense. And the special teams. And the training staff and everything else except the roster. That was Beane.

 

In any case, the problem against Denver was the offense and the turnovers. The offense was responsible for 36 points in that game. Thirty for Buffalo and six for Denver. Josh Allen and his turnovers were responsible for losing us that game, even if he did nearly win it.

 

 

[Chicken Boo]

7 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

It was a rough year for Beane - from the PED boys, to the lack of WR in a wide open year, to the McD split, and to taking part in the disaster of a news conference with Pegula.

 

All signs point to J Jefferson.  Beane knew it before hiring the new coach.  Beane gets JJ in here and all the above stuff is past noise, the future of an Allen/JJ/Cook offense spells an offensive juggernaut.  Impossible not to be excited with that.

 

 

 

.. for the fences!

[Thurman#1]

6 minutes ago, buffblue said:

I'd love to know how you could feel trustworthy in Beane at this point? 

 

I don't think he has been honest at all. He's made excuses time and time again for his failure to get the greatest player in Bills history the requisite help, consequently wasting Allen's entire 20's.

 

 

You're acting like excuses and lies are the same thing. They very much are not.

 

Beane is supposed to explain what he did. They schedule press conferences specifically for that. People who don't like what he did will call that making excuses. But it's actually explaining what he did. It's mandatory.

 

Again, he has told the truth with extreme consistency. He has also maneuvered around questions at times, as does everyone in these media-savvy days. Wanna accuse him of that? Fair enough. Go ahead, you'd be right. But he's been honest.

Edited February 3 by Thurman#1

[Big Blitz]

I still don’t understand how you want to keep the 2026 pick - you know by the trade deadline you’re picking in the 20s bc you’re making the playoffs - but are willing to give up a 2027 first instead when its far less certain where you’d be picking.  
 

 

 

[Thurman#1]

7 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

It was a rough year for Beane - from the PED boys, to the lack of WR in a wide open year, to the McD split, and to taking part in the disaster of a news conference with Pegula.

 

All signs point to J Jefferson.  Beane knew it before hiring the new coach.  Beane gets JJ in here and all the above stuff is past noise, the future of an Allen/JJ/Cook offense spells an offensive juggernaut.  Impossible not to be excited with that.

 

 

All signs? Boy I don't agree.

 

There are thirty-one other teams (well, a few would probably be out, but not that many) who'd like him if the stars lined up right.

 

Pretty sure that the Bills are interested, though, I'd definitely agree with you that much.

[Sojourner]

9 hours ago, QB Bills said:

On one hand, I respect the candidness that he's showing. It's rare to see the curtain pulled back in pro sports. 

 

On the other, who knows what really happened? Beane is well aware of the fire he's been under this season and it doesn't seem like a coincidence that everything he says in public sounds like damage control.

 

The truth is, he's drafted one elite player in 8 years. He's lucky that player ended up being as good as he is or he'd have been out of a job a long time ago.

He has no other option than to lay it out bare. Or at least appear as transparent as he is making out. I suspect we’ll never know the true details but there is certainly a slew of videos out there to counter his absolute staunch position that it was all coaching staff on Keon. 

Been a supporter of Beane and the drafting as it isn’t as catastrophic as some make out. 
 

He does however need to make moves to upgrade the offense. Defense might be too much for one season to remedy. 

[wppete]

I w get why he is out there on all the shows giving details of trades and dealing with other GMs. Im

sure other GMs are not happy about that. Time to keep quiet and stay behind the scenes for Beane and get to work. 

[cage]

14 hours ago, QB Bills said:

Okay, so we're giving Beane credit for Benford, and McDermott the blame for Elam.

 

On that note, I also want to blame McDermott for this horribly cold weather we've been having, but I hear Beane has a plan to turn it around by May.

 

uh.... YES.  The Head Coach is surely in on meetings where draft rankings are discussed.  He was usually at scouting combine and in the Embedded videos have seen in him interview sessions with the top prospects.  Players, particularly defensive players... for his defense, that are selected in the top three rounds, I'd imagine he has pretty strong input to.  So Elam, trading up for TJ Sanders, Dewayne Carter, Boogie Basham, Landon Jackson, Oliver, Hairston and Epenesa would have McDs stamp on them.   However, once you get into later rounds McDs familiarity and input would have receded and those selections are more attributable to scouts and GM.

Edited February 3 by cage

[twoandfourteen]

15 hours ago, eball said:

Cook isn’t elite? Benford? His draft record is much better than your ilk give him credit for. Go ahead, shout “Elam” at the top of your lungs. Think McD had any input in that?
 

I am truly sick and tired of the fans who think they know what’s in Beane’s head or the ins and outs of what he has done to try and improve this roster. 
 

 

Cook is very good, but not “elite”. 

 

He’s not in the same class as future HOF’ers like Bijan, CMC, JT, Saquon, Henry, Gibbs. 

 

Cook is in that next tier of “very good” with Achane, WIlliams, Walker, etc. 

 

Benford is also in that “very good” tier of CBs. 

 

Beane’s draft record is not very good. 

Edited February 3 by twoandfourteen

[BeyondTheProcess]

clearly went after Waddle, IMHO.   Takes 2 to tango.   

[twoandfourteen]

14 hours ago, eball said:

Oh, don’t be dumb. You know what I’m talking about. Some folks apparently believe Beane’s an idiot who purposely ignores things that would make the Bills better. 
 

 

Ummm… that’s EXACTLY what he’s done with the WR room. 

 

And the resources he diverted to other positions (d-line, *cough*) haven’t resulted in any true game-breakers either. 

[Pete]

1 minute ago, BeyondTheProcess said:

clearly went after Waddle, IMHO.   Takes 2 to tango.   

Tried, Like Kevin Adams used to cry and whined "I tried to trade, but no one wanted to trade with me".

If Beane wanted Shaheed, Waddle, or Myers- he could of made it happen, but failed

[MrEpsYtown]

I know it's been discussed, but Brian Thomas Jr. is a move that I think is most doable. I mentioned this elsewhere, but while doing research on Granti Udinski the way he talked about the offense and what they asked their receivers to do, it does not play to Thomas' skillset. That's why I think we saw a step back from him and a career year from Parker Washington. They have Travis Hunter coming back and Jakobi Meyers on an extension. BTJ is WR4 in this scenario. I feel like you could get BTJ away from Jacksonville for the right price, and he, like an Alex Pierce, provides that field-stretching deep threat we are missing. It should be interesting to see how things go, but you have a coaching staff down there who really isn't using him to his strengths and the regime did not draft him. 

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I know it's been discussed, but Brian Thomas Jr. is a move that I think is most doable. I mentioned this elsewhere, but while doing research on Granti Udinski the way he talked about the offense and what they asked their receivers to do, it does not play to Thomas' skillset. That's why I think we saw a step back from him and a career year from Parker Washington. They have Travis Hunter coming back and Jakobi Meyers on an extension. BTJ is WR4 in this scenario. I feel like you could get BTJ away from Jacksonville for the right price, and he, like an Alex Pierce, provides that field-stretching deep threat we are missing. It should be interesting to see how things go, but you have a coaching staff down there who really isn't using him to his strengths and the regime did not draft him. 

 

They are not trading BTJ to the team that ousted them in the playoffs - it just is not happening without a massive overpay on Buffalos part and that is not worth it.

 

I don’t think BTJ is even available for anyone until they get Hunter back and sure he is healthy - so maybe next trade deadline, but even then Buffalo would not be high on the teams Jacksonville is trading with.  We are their version of KC.

[MrEpsYtown]

5 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

They are not trading BTJ to the team that ousted them in the playoffs - it just is not happening without a massive overpay on Buffalos part and that is not worth it.

 

I don’t think BTJ is even available for anyone until they get Hunter back and sure he is healthy - so maybe next trade deadline, but even then Buffalo would not be high on the teams Jacksonville is trading with.  We are their version of KC.

 

Yeah I think that is a good point. I'm glad we are someone's KC but yeah I understand the thought process. Will be interesting to see what happens this off season. 

[JohnNord]

15 hours ago, SCBills said:

Not to be that guy, but the roster was “good enough”

 

WR was a major fail and it’s beyond exhausting how the DL under McDermott constantly failed us, but New England, a team we boatraced in the second half a month prior that literally struggles to get a first down against an elite defense is now representing the AFC in the Super Bowl.  
 

You can both believe the roster wasn’t great but also look around as Pegula and Beane to wonder how it is McDermott STILL couldn’t navigate us there. 

He couldn’t navigate because his QB turned the ball over 3 times and failed to score when they needed him.  
 

Buffalo moved the ball up and down the field too late unforced errors.  A bad game by Josh.  Game never should have gone to overtime.  The win was right there - Josh missed it twice 

[Beck Water]

20 hours ago, Gregg said:

The difference this year is McDermott got fired. Beane knows he is next if the roster doesn't improve.

 

This is the cogent point. 

I forget who said it, but it seems only logical that Beane knows he is in the hot seat if Brady in fact does not have the player personnel to succeed

OR

If it turns out Brady just can't coach.

[Ballhawk]

It's tough when two of the biggest sellers are in your division. Given that the Bills have been smacking round the AFC East for the past five years, I think it's entirely credible that the Jets and Dolphins would rather trade to anyone but the Bills. 

 

If we had added Quinnen Williams and either Waddle or Wilson, is anyone really thinking we aren't still playing (assuming they didn't land on IR the minute the plane set down)