JohnNord Posted February 3 Posted February 3 3 hours ago, ngbills said: With any of the WR's are we in the super bowl this week? I think yes. We at least win that Denver game. Highly confident we could have beat the Pats the following week. This is what drives me nuts about “Bargain Bin” Brandon Beane. From the moment they trade Diggs we knew they needed to upgrade WR. He proceeds to draft the most polarizing WR and fills the rest of the room with bargain bin free agents. Now he’s talking about taking a big swing? I’ll believe it when I see it 1 1 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I'm hesitant to keep piling on Beane at this point but one thing I really disagree on is how he clings to those first round picks. Show me a late round pick that would impact us as much as Waddle for the next two seasons? You send the 2026 pick and don't think twice. Even more so because the 2027 pick, by all accounts, is going to be way more valuable. 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted February 3 Posted February 3 3 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Definitely some CYA about the WR situation but it could be true he does this after every trade deadline, season and draft. He makes all kind of excuses why he failed. Go listen to WGR the day after the draft last year. He offered similar excuses as to why he didn’t draft a WR. 1 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted February 3 Posted February 3 29 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: I'm hesitant to keep piling on Beane at this point but one thing I really disagree on is how he clings to those first round picks. Show me a late round pick that would impact us as much as Waddle for the next two seasons? You send the 2026 pick and don't think twice. Even more so because the 2027 pick, by all accounts, is going to be way more valuable. Waddle very well could have been the difference make this season. It drove me crazy when he didn’t pull the trigger 2 Quote
buffblue Posted February 3 Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Waddle very well could have been the difference make this season. It drove me crazy when he didn’t pull the trigger Why trade for Waddle at the deadline when you can desperately pick up Brandon Cooks off the street 3 weeks later? 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, akcash said: Was the other in division wr Garrett Wilson? That is what it sounds like. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I’m convinced the owner in Miami fired Chris Grier because he was about to have a fire sale. I bet McDaniels went upstairs and said this guy is about to trade away your best players and they fired him first. They put Beane in a bad spot. I just have this suspicion he had something worked out with Grier and then Grier was gone and that was that. 1 1 Quote
aristocrat Posted February 3 Posted February 3 26 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Waddle very well could have been the difference make this season. It drove me crazy when he didn’t pull the trigger We beat Miami with waddle for sure. Pull off the wins against Houston and Philly likely. One seed at home 1 Quote
buffblue Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Just now, MikePJ76 said: I’m convinced the owner in Miami fired Chris Grier because he was about to have a fire sale. I bet McDaniels went upstairs and said this guy is about to trade away your best players and they fired him first. They put Beane in a bad spot. I just have this suspicion he had something worked out with Grier and then Grier was gone and that was that. Is this what we're hanging our hat on now to make peace with the current situation? Proposing hypotheticals to convince ourselves things are ok with leadership? I'm not even saying this is implausible. But without the benefit of absolute certainty, I'm going to look at the words and track record over a longer period of time as the better judgment criteria. Also, I found it funny that in the clip posted by OP one of the first things mentioned is lack of salary cap space. Who is ultimately responsible for that other than the GM? 1 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Just now, buffblue said: Is this what we're hanging our hat on now to make peace with the current situation? Proposing hypotheticals to convince ourselves things are ok with leadership? I'm not even saying this is implausible. But without the benefit of absolute certainty, I'm going to look at the words and track record over a longer period of time as the better judgment criteria. Also, I found it funny that in the clip posted by OP one of the first things mentioned is lack of salary cap space. Who is ultimately responsible for that other than the GM? Huh? It’s just my view of what happened. Not a statement on Leadership? Quote
buffblue Posted February 3 Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Huh? It’s just my view of what happened. Not a statement on Leadership? I got you. It appeared your post was being used as a rationale for why Beane failed to consummate a deal for a WR generally (not just Waddle). On another note, who knows what Stephen Ross is actually thinking? He couldn't even remember the names of his new coach and GM at their introductory press conference Quote
dave mcbride Posted February 3 Posted February 3 4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: AFC East WR mentioned is either Wilson or Waddle. Very likely Waddle Perhaps Beane revisits that close to the draft? Miami has a new GM I believe although I would prefer we aim higher than Waddle. It was reported supposedly Miami wanted our 2026 1st but Beane had offered our 2027 1st. Beane claims there was never a counter offer if we could get Waddle for a 2nd, I’d do that Some of Beane’s comments are a bit surprising to me and more transparent than usual. IMO he knows he has to make big moves I assume Waddle because the other in-division guy discussed was Quinnen Williams, and Dallas made a strong offer for him. Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted February 3 Posted February 3 All this whining about Beane not getting a WR, yet we still had a top 5 offense and scored 27 and 30 points on the road in the playoffs while our QB was playing with a broken foot. Yet people wanna bring back Mr. 13 seconds and his Dick Jauron defense. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Mikie2times said: I'm hesitant to keep piling on Beane at this point but one thing I really disagree on is how he clings to those first round picks. Show me a late round pick that would impact us as much as Waddle for the next two seasons? You send the 2026 pick and don't think twice. Even more so because the 2027 pick, by all accounts, is going to be way more valuable. He said that team (Miami) never replied at all to his offer. So I guess the media released "if he would have given this years 1st" has no validity 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted February 3 Posted February 3 59 minutes ago, buffblue said: Why trade for Waddle at the deadline when you can desperately pick up Brandon Cooks off the street 3 weeks later? Maybe because they thought Brandon Cooks could still catch? 43 minutes ago, aristocrat said: We beat Miami with waddle for sure. Pull off the wins against Houston and Philly likely. One seed at home Exactly… the offense struggled so many times because they were limited on the outside 1 Quote
SCBills Posted February 3 Posted February 3 4 hours ago, Comebackkid said: why...one of the main premises of keeping beane was they both agreed the roster was good enough Not to be that guy, but the roster was “good enough” WR was a major fail and it’s beyond exhausting how the DL under McDermott constantly failed us, but New England, a team we boatraced in the second half a month prior that literally struggles to get a first down against an elite defense is now representing the AFC in the Super Bowl. You can both believe the roster wasn’t great but also look around as Pegula and Beane to wonder how it is McDermott STILL couldn’t navigate us there. 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted February 3 Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: He said that team (Miami) never replied at all to his offer. So I guess the media released "if he would have given this years 1st" has no validity He could have accepted the terms they asked for? Hardly seemed unreasonable for multi year 1k+ starter, former top 10 pick, only 27. If somebody offers a really good deal you take it, you don't counter. That's my only gripe here. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted February 3 Posted February 3 5 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Definitely some CYA about the WR situation but it could be true I just find it ridiculous that he cares that much about it being 2026 or 2027. You threw away a chance at the easiest path to the Super Bowl we have had during this run because you wanted to keep this years pick instead of next years? Penny wise and dollar foolish. 2 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 7 hours ago, buffblue said: Kind of difficult to buy what he is selling about the WR position at this point. He's lost all credibility until proven otherwise after years of mismanagement and the WGR meltdown. Hard to trust he'll handle it right? Fair opinion. Hard to trust he's telling the truth about what happened? Not at all. He's been honest with extreme consistency. Quote
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