Lost Posted January 31 Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, boyst said: So we want to take players not contributing at their worth, one who is overpaid but valuable to the team.. in sink it all into one guy we'll just be blanketed and coverage? We don't even have a number two wide receiver on this team LOL Teams could double or triple cover him all day long if they want. That leaves our hopefully new rookie WR plenty of space to get open downfield. I'll take that scenario over paying guys 10+ million per year to get 10 snaps and 2 targets a game. 4 Quote
Urban Achievers Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Get it done. The collective paychecks of so many of our average at best players can pay his salary. A man can dream. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted January 31 Posted January 31 7 minutes ago, boyst said: Okay so let's get devonte Adams. We simply cannot afford the cap space allocated to this position when our defense needs to be retooled and we need to have two new offensive lineman next year to pay for, and a plan to replace our left tackle The players to replace the OL are already on the roster. Resign the C, DD has 2-3 more productive years. Yes D needs attention but the timing to get JA the best possible weapon would vault this team iinto an O that averages over 30+ only needing an average D to show up in the playoffs. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted January 31 Posted January 31 19 minutes ago, boyst said: Correct. She is going to want a nice five to six year contract when he only has two to three more years in him You think he’s washed at 28 or 29? I very much disagree. Moss is a good comparison for him and he went to 33 playing elite. 1 1 Quote
Governor Posted January 31 Posted January 31 (edited) 38 minutes ago, boyst said: This is true. But the value of that number one receiver versus the other needs that we have right now I don't think Jefferson is what is going to make a big difference We need to go ahead and think about several things. We might be losing two starting offensive lineman. Let's say we have one in the full to replace them. We haven't done well at solidifying a long-term plan on the line. This includes defense. We need to get past rushers. They have a bigger impact on the game than a wide receiver We need a linebacker or two. We need another perspective young linebacker to room and possibly take over in a year or two, at the same time we need a safety for that. We don't have another safety for next year to be beside Bishop. Head forward thinking we need to get a left tackle in the next two to three years. Deon Dawkins has no more than 3 years left. While drafting for a first round needs to get you an instant starter in difference Maker to make a difference immediately, we need other pics try to hit one out of the park. We need to draft linebackers, defensive ends, a safety or two, and I hate that. I hate that with so much passion because we've been doing it time and time again and getting suboptimal returns. Now we're getting ready to change over to defensive scheme on top of that. Right now we eat as many draft picks as possible. Our cat situation sucks So I unequivocally say no to overpaying from one position when we have many more on this team that need to be addressed If Beane and Brady want to keep their jobs a full 2 years and possibly a 3rd, a WR will be chosen AND they will trade for a top FA WR in year 1. He’s not going to make that mistake again and will smother that room with talent. Edited January 31 by Governor 1 1 Quote
Bills aPHILLYate Posted January 31 Posted January 31 27 minutes ago, boyst said: I just don't want him This sums it up (which I believe is absolutely ridiculous but to each his own) At 26yrs old I'm willing to pay a hefty price. Easily becomes the #1 Qb/Wr combo for the rest of Josh's prime. This is Moss to Brady level. Whomever you're hoping lands in our draft slot or we spend significant draft capital to move up for is a question mark no matter the hype (see generational prospect MHJ). This would be a dream come true. 1 1 Quote
Victory Formation Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Ed Oliver + RD1 + RD2 picks for Justin Jefferson 1 2 2 Quote
Buffalo ill Posted January 31 Posted January 31 You know if the Bills mortgage the future for him he will immediately tear an achilles or something. 2 Quote
Steptide Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Id kill to have Jefferson. I can't see the vikings trading him unless we gave up an incredible amount of draft picks. It's a pipe dream, but if I was beane I'd make a call and at least see what they'd want Quote
ColoradoBills Posted January 31 Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Steptide said: Id kill to have Jefferson. I can't see the vikings trading him unless we gave up an incredible amount of draft picks. It's a pipe dream, but if I was beane I'd make a call and at least see what they'd want The only way it even has a chance to happen is if JJ pushes from his side. 1 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 31 Posted January 31 I think we will do this. McDermott always was the problem and I think this offseason is going to show that 1 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Obviously I'd love to trade for him but it would have to be a post 6/1 trade to make any financial sense for Minnesota. They're already $40M over the cap and if they trade Jefferson before 6/1 his cap hit goes up by $7.5M. If they trade him post 6/1 they get some cap savings. If they're willing to do it for 2027 and 2028 1st round picks it's a no brainer. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted January 31 Posted January 31 I’d love him, but I almost feel like trading pick 26 plus next years 1st for one of the elite WR’s in this years draft might be smarter than that same type of package for Justin Jefferson. That being said, if pulled off a JJ trade.. I’m not complaining. 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted January 31 Posted January 31 27 minutes ago, Lost said: Teams could double or triple cover him all day long if they want. That leaves our hopefully new rookie WR plenty of space to get open downfield. I'll take that scenario over paying guys 10+ million per year to get 10 snaps and 2 targets a game. if we trade for Jefferson you don’t have picks for a rookie. but you do have cook, and Shakir, and dalton, and palmer Quote
Magox Posted January 31 Posted January 31 (edited) 51 minutes ago, papazoid said: his 2026 cap hit is $39. then $43 & $47...just sayin No, that’s not correct. The acquiring team would have a $25.7 M cap hit in 2026 and $29M in 2027 largely due to bonuses that have already been paid by the Vikings. It would be a dead cap hit for them on the remainder Edited January 31 by Magox 2 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted January 31 Posted January 31 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: if we trade for Jefferson you don’t have picks for a rookie. but you do have cook, and Shakir, and dalton, and palmer Totally true. Quote
Governor Posted January 31 Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: if we trade for Jefferson you don’t have picks for a rookie. but you do have cook, and Shakir, and dalton, and palmer Trade Benford and Oliver. 1 Quote
Bills aPHILLYate Posted January 31 Posted January 31 27 minutes ago, boyst said: This is true. But the value of that number one receiver versus the other needs that we have right now I don't think Jefferson is what is going to make a big difference We need to go ahead and think about several things. We might be losing two starting offensive lineman. Let's say we have one in the full to replace them. We haven't done well at solidifying a long-term plan on the line. This includes defense. We need to get past rushers. They have a bigger impact on the game than a wide receiver We need a linebacker or two. We need another perspective young linebacker to room and possibly take over in a year or two, at the same time we need a safety for that. We don't have another safety for next year to be beside Bishop. Head forward thinking we need to get a left tackle in the next two to three years. Deon Dawkins has no more than 3 years left. While drafting for a first round needs to get you an instant starter in difference Maker to make a difference immediately, we need other pics try to hit one out of the park. We need to draft linebackers, defensive ends, a safety or two, and I hate that. I hate that with so much passion because we've been doing it time and time again and getting suboptimal returns. Now we're getting ready to change over to defensive scheme on top of that. Right now we eat as many draft picks as possible. Our cat situation sucks So I unequivocally say no to overpaying from one position when we have many more on this team that need to be addressed Everyone seems to be on a 3 year timetable from your perspective no matter the age. With that logic and also knowing that the organization is in a get over the hump/win now mode; wouldn't it make sense to maximize that same timeframe? The team is trying to win now! This would be a win now move! If it doesn't work then everyone is fired in the next 3 years anyway. The current staff shouldn't be thinking 4 years down the road. 1 1 Quote
boyst Posted January 31 Posted January 31 36 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: You’re saying JJ is going to be washed in 2-3 years. That is extremely unlikely. We already spend huge money on D and fail there when it matters You admit we don’t even have a #2 WR but you don’t want the WR1 in the league?! uhhhh The bang for the buck. To pay for a #1 wr for 5-6 yrs when he won't be the top tier talent in that time is a big risk 25 minutes ago, Einstein said: You think he’s washed at 28 or 29? I very much disagree. Moss is a good comparison for him and he went to 33 playing elite. He's not a top 8 WR in 3 yrs. He may still be paid like one. 1 Quote
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