Beane go get the difference makers

[NastyNateSoldiers]

I've been saying this for yrs we need to consolidate not spend on a bunch of middling talent can this finally be the off-season we make this happen? Go get Trey Hendrickson to play DE and watch how he gets the best out of every player on that line and the defense as a whole. Yes he'll get paid big money but to me that's like an investment for everyone else as well because Oliver and Groot will be playing like 25mil a yr players instead of the 18-19 there making now. Nearly every Superbowl winning team needs that one difference maker on the Dline and Trey Hendrickson is just that. 

 

On Offense make a trade for BTJ . The Jags are ready to move him and I say we get this done as soon as the trade window opens for the 26 season. BTJ will be 24 when the season starts and going into his prime for some reason he didn't fit into the Jags new offense and the Jags also need to recoup a first they used in the Hunter deal plus they have a fantastic group of Wrs already in place with Hunter, Meyers and Washington. BTJ would be the key to unlocking this offense and like I said with Trey the same applies to BTJ he will make everyone better around him so Kincaid , Shakir and Cooks will benefit the most ntm Allen finally having that true #1 Wr back in this offense. 

 

The rest of the roster is pretty good and we can fill out the depth with savvy drafting and min wage free agents like the rest of the great teams do in this league. So please Beane stop having the same old off-season go get us a couple of difference makers!

[Ethan in Cleveland]

If you want a WR go get Marvin Harrison Jr from the Cardinals.  They are in full rebuild mode and they need draft picks.

Agree with your assessment for a pass rusher. Despite the WR struggles, the biggest need on this team is a double digit edge rusher.

[BuffaloBillyG]

I think BTJ is more available than many think. Their current coach/GM did not draft him. Parker Washington is young, inexpensive and a phenomenal fit for Coen's offense. They made the move for Myers and re-signed him. They still desperately want to may Travis Hunter the WR happen. That really leave BTJ on the outside looking on. Offer the same package Beane did for Waddle, and I think they would jump at it. 

[IYKYK]

Just now, Einstein said:

Well, the guy who was holding this franchise back from Lombardi after Lombardi after Lombardi is finally gone.

 

Now Beane can unleash his full powers and we will certainly go on a run of dominance without that pesky red head in the way.

 

Look for us to get a lot of playmakers.

As long as they work for vet minimum. That’s all we can afford without mortgaging our future. I thought 2024 was the year we tried to rebuild? That didn’t work out well. 

[Gregg]

With McDermott gone it will be interesting to see how Beane handles the offseason. It's his show. I am sure Brady will voice his opinions as he should but make no mistake this will be Beane's roster going forward.

[Mikey152]

If you can acquire said player, are they really that valuable?  
 

I just don’t understand why everyone wants to completely change the way we do things or mortgage the future to build a fantasy team. Not only is it completely irresponsible, it’s also unrealistic.

 

the world has become way to instant gratification for my taste

[Bruffalo]

I'd go out and sign Aiyuk, then draft a guy round 1. If you can sign a decent FA like Pierce as well, that would be awesome, but I don't see them making that heavy of an investment with Palmer on the books.   

 

I know Aiyuk's a headcase, but the talent is there and you might be able to get a deal. 

[Mikie2times]

5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

If you want a WR go get Marvin Harrison Jr from the Cardinals.  They are in full rebuild mode and they need draft picks.

Agree with your assessment for a pass rusher. Despite the WR struggles, the biggest need on this team is a double digit edge rusher.

I have had the thought if he would eventually become available especially with Wilson emerging.  

[NastyNateSoldiers]

3 minutes ago, IYKYK said:

As long as they work for vet minimum. That’s all we can afford without mortgaging our future. I thought 2024 was the year we tried to rebuild? That didn’t work out well. 

The money is there just have to restructure 2-3 players and it opens up 40-50 mil. We're just going to have to keep kicking the can down the road until Allen career is over and then we can fix the cap and have a couple bad seasons get a new QB and do this all over again. 😂 

[Mod_Squad_Reject]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

With McDermott gone it will be interesting to see how Beane handles the offseason. It's his show. I am sure Brady will voice his opinions as he should but make no mistake this will be Beane's roster going forward.

Nowhere to hide now, he’ll own it lock stock and barrel moving forward.

[IYKYK]

Just now, NastyNateSoldiers said:

The money is there just have to restructure 2-3 players and it opens up 40-50 mil. We're just going to have to keep kicking the can down the road until Allen career is over and then we can fix the cap and have a couple bad seasons get a new QB and do this all over again. 😂 

You can only kick the can for so long before it bites you in the ass. Wasn’t 2024 the year we were supposed to get the cap situation under control? What happened? We’re worse off now than when we were 2024! 

[SCBills]

Just now, NastyNateSoldiers said:

The money is there just have to restructure 2-3 players and it opens up 40-50 mil. We're just going to have to keep kicking the can down the road until Allen career is over and then we can fix the cap and have a couple bad seasons get a new QB and do this all over again. 😂 

I mean.. with Josh Allen turning 30 and the heavy Saints influence, we’re probably at the point where we can just push more and more dead cap down the line and then take our reset year after Allen retires, whether that’s 6, 8 or 10 years down the road.   Essentially what they did with Brees. 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

1 minute ago, IYKYK said:

You can only kick the can for so long before it bites you in the ass. Wasn’t 2024 the year we were supposed to get the cap situation under control? What happened? We’re worse off now than when we were 2024! 

The Saints kicked the can down the road for nearly a decade.

[US Egg]

4 minutes ago, Mikey152 said:

If you can acquire said player, are they really that valuable?  

This a trick question?

4 minutes ago, Mikey152 said:

the world has become way to instant gratification for my taste

We’re not talking life in here, we’re talking football.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

The problem is even u much the can down the road for middling talent that doesn't stick long term like Samuel and Palmer or even for 1yr rentals like Bosa that's when it becomes a big problem. We have to kick the can for players that will make that difference and stick on this roster. 

We tried to have these middle of pack off-seasons and we get getting stuck in the mud now it's time to go big or go home. 

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, IYKYK said:

You can only kick the can for so long before it bites you in the ass. Wasn’t 2024 the year we were supposed to get the cap situation under control? What happened? We’re worse off now than when we were 2024! 

We just need to stop obsessively overpaying for average to slightly above average players. 
 

If we decide to cut Knox, Samuel, Rapp and restructure Allen & Brown, we open up about 30M of cap space once you take into account our entering the year in the negative. 
 

Might have to simply let McGovern and Edwards walk and let Grable and Anderson compete for LG and have SVPG compete with a cheaper FA and/or draft pick.  
 

When we wonder why teams have money and we don’t, it’s because they let guys walk.  We rarely do that and it leads to us building around a core of above average, but not great players with no real elite guys outside Allen and Cook. 
 

If we let guys walk, we’ll have money to go after a couple high price FA’s.   If not, we maybe have money for one big splash. 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

We just need to stop obsessively overpaying for average to slightly above average players. 
 

If we decide to cut Knox, Samuel, Rapp and restructure Allen & Brown, we open up about 30M of cap space once you take into account our entering the year in the negative. 
 

Might have to simply let McGovern and Edwards walk and let Grable and Anderson compete for LG and have SVPG compete with a cheaper FA and/or draft pick.  
 

When we wonder why teams have money and we don’t, it’s because they let guys walk.  We rarely do that and it leads to us building around a core of above average, but not great players with no real elite guys outside Allen and Cook. 
 

If we let guys walk, we’ll have money to go after a couple high price FA’s.   If not, we maybe have money for one big splash. 

I'd like to bring back McGovern for a decent deal and resign Alec Anderson for cheap and let him battle it out with a 3rd rd pick for the LG spot. Your right though tough decisions need to be made and we need to consolidate in a major way. 

[Einstein's Dog]

9 minutes ago, Gregg said:

With McDermott gone it will be interesting to see how Beane handles the offseason. It's his show. I am sure Brady will voice his opinions as he should but make no mistake this will be Beane's roster going forward.

IMO it's possible Beane wants to not so subtly show that the WR problem was in the collaboration process with McD and now while collaborating with J Brady it's full on WR heaven! (appeals to all top decision makers J Brady, J Allen and even Pegula).

 

So of course get one of the misplaced youngsters - BTJ, or MHJ, or Addison.  And these just really cost only draft capital.  They are all on their rookie contracts.

 

But I go one further and say get a $20M vet for the other side!  An M Evans or B Aiyuk.

 

Unfortunately, in this scenario you can not get Hendrickson.  Maybe Bosa back.  The DC is going to have their hands full - good back end but no power rushers.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:

IMO it's possible Beane wants to not so subtly show that the WR problem was in the collaboration process with McD and now while collaborating with J Brady it's full on WR heaven! (appeals to all top decision makers J Brady, J Allen and even Pegula).

 

So of course get one of the misplaced youngsters - BTJ, or MHJ, or Addison.  And these just really cost only draft capital.  They are all on their rookie contracts.

 

But I go one further and say get a $20M vet for the other side!  An M Evans or B Aiyuk.

 

Unfortunately, in this scenario you can not get Hendrickson.  Maybe Bosa back.  The DC is going to have their hands full - good back end but no power rushers.

I can argue Hendrickson is more important then the Wr but why not get both ? We didn't need 2 Wrs we have a totem pole in place already with Kincaid and Shakir as well as Cook so adding one big time Wr like BTJ will give us a big 5 on offense that's more then enough to win with. 

Can't forget that Edge rusher is part of the formula to winning Superbowls . Every team that wins has that one difference maker on the line 

[colin]

12 minutes ago, SCBills said:

We just need to stop obsessively overpaying for average to slightly above average players. 
 

If we decide to cut Knox, Samuel, Rapp and restructure Allen & Brown, we open up about 30M of cap space once you take into account our entering the year in the negative. 
 

Might have to simply let McGovern and Edwards walk and let Grable and Anderson compete for LG and have SVPG compete with a cheaper FA and/or draft pick.  
 

When we wonder why teams have money and we don’t, it’s because they let guys walk.  We rarely do that and it leads to us building around a core of above average, but not great players with no real elite guys outside Allen and Cook. 
 

If we let guys walk, we’ll have money to go after a couple high price FA’s.   If not, we maybe have money for one big splash. 

 

That and putting money into players who can't play due to injury are far and away the biggest issues w this roster.

 

if we look at the signings of internal guys last season, groot, shakir, benford, and most of all cook were all good signings.  groot was banged up early, but came on super strong late.  benford too, but at a higher overall level.  shakir kinda bugged me early, but he makes prime time plays in prime time games.  benard was a huge whiff.  if he get's healthy and puts up 2023 numbers then all is well.

 

in fa, the 12 games of dt suspensions sucked (maybe we win another game, get the division if we had them both?), im a big hoyt fan but he had a catastrophic injury, palmer seems way over paid and was constantly hurt.  bad work right there.

 

i think you might be right about letting the LG and C walk.  both were not drafted by us (dunno how much that matters) and we have depth.  if we get slightly worse on OL but add impact talent at WR or DE, that's an easy win for us.