KHAN Posted January 26 Posted January 26 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sweats said: Beane will be on a tighter leash going forward, count on it. The fact that Terry is holding the leash does not fill me with confidence. Edited January 26 by KHAN 1 Quote
Sweats Posted January 26 Author Posted January 26 I think us Bills fans all have Stockholm Syndrome........some of you want to keep churning out a 12 win season and get bumped out in the 2nd round every year, but hey, at least we're over the drought years and actually making it to the post season. Look at it realistically, without any hindsight, analytics, etc.......the goal is to reach the SB and in that regard, the FO has failed, but on the flip side, the FO has realized that change was needed and are taking the steps to move forward. We obviously don't know if it will work out for the better, but i am of the belief that if you are not constantly moving forward, then you are stagnant and stuck in place and you get what you deserve when you are going nowhere. 4 1 Quote
US Egg Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Many stating they’re accepting of a grace period for the new hire. Anything less than the AFC championship game and plenty of them this time next year in here questioning the hire. Fandom: it’s a fickle thing. Quote
Sweats Posted January 26 Author Posted January 26 5 minutes ago, US Egg said: Many stating they’re accepting of a grace period for the new hire. Anything less than the AFC championship game and plenty of them this time next year in here questioning the hire. Fandom: it’s a fickle thing. I think the new HC is going to come out swinging and firing on all cylinders..........no one wants to walk into this franchise expecting a 2-3 year down swing until they make an actual push. Look at Vrabel as the 1st year HC in NE, with a subpar roster and 2nd year QB..........he is the new barometer for success in this league. 1 Quote
US Egg Posted January 26 Posted January 26 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Sweats said: I think the new HC is going to come out swinging and firing on all cylinders..........no one wants to walk into this franchise expecting a 2-3 year down swing until they make an actual push. Look at Vrabel as the 1st year HC in NE, with a subpar roster and 2nd year QB..........he is the new barometer for success in this league. Raised that point, new hire is in a win now situation like McDermott would be, caught flak that it’s not realistic and unfair new hire expectation. Lots of Kubiakers apparently don’t mind Allen withering away more seasons. Edited January 26 by US Egg 1 Quote
Nihilarian Posted January 26 Posted January 26 It might be different if this owner hadn't gone down this exact road previously with big-mouth Rex Ryan in their first HC hire. The owners got together with the GM, along with others in the FO, and Ryan pitched them his spiel. We don't know what he said to them, but it was probably along the lines of "I'm noted to be a great defensive mind". Then he went on to completely ruin the Buffalo defense that was the #1 sack defense the previous season. Hiring a head coach is like a box of chocolates.... Quote
Ballhawk Posted January 26 Posted January 26 As a Leafs fan I can only say "Beware of what you wish for." We went from a perennial playoff team with disappointing playoff results to a bottom tier team that will miss the playoffs (after trading Marner). We also have a superstar player (Mathews), for which there is now talk of trading. I really hope this isn't how things play out for Josh and the Bills, but to assume the McDermott brought no value is a serious mistake. I respect the move the Bills made given the 9-year history, but there is definitely risk involved. Quote
Chaos Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Sweats said: It's been a very tumultuous couple of weeks. We got knocked out of the postseason again, McD was fired, Beane promoted, Pegs interview, HC interviews, NE going on to the SB, etc. so without going into more of the same countless drivel of the past couple of weeks........are you confident for the future of the Bills? Ole Sweats is confident that we will get it right this time.........i have no doubt in this belief. The albatross has been cast aside. The arrow is pointing up. 2 1 1 Quote
extrahammer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Ultimately my take on it is it's a few years too late, I think McDermott evolved but I always think he was lacking compared to coaches like Reid, Andy just has so much more game management experience if they have evenly talented teams, Andy would outmanage McD. While I think the optics were really bad, that's the worst Josh has played in a playoff game and we know he was carrying a lot of injuries, he shouldn't have turned over the ball like that and the defense shouldn't have given up over 30 points. Seems like whenever we get to the Divisionals or AFCCG, we play flatter more often. Hopefully we make a good hire because if we don't, tHe wInDoW starts to close. Quote
Nihilarian Posted January 26 Posted January 26 13 minutes ago, Sweats said: Look at Vrabel as the 1st year HC in NE, with a subpar roster and 2nd year QB..........he is the new barometer for success in this league. The thing is, it wasn't just a new HC in Vrable, as they also hired Eliot Wolf as de facto GM in 2024. Eliot is the son of the HoF ex-GM of the GB Packers. So, that roster wasn't exactly sub-par. Vrable cut that 1st round pick at OG by Belichick. Wolf had a good draft in 2025, and he brought in a lot of good players in free agency, too. The biggest addition was probably both new coordinators, Josh McDaniels and Terrell Williams. The NE offense was #2 in points scored and 3rd in yards. Their defense was 4th in points allowed, 8th in yards allowed. Let's not forget that McDaniels was the OC for Tom Brady and all those Super Bowl wins. Then, because they were 4-13 last year, they found those good layers early in the draft and also had a 4th-place schedule in 2025. Not to mention all the luck that they had with very few injuries to key players. Facing a backup QB in that AFC Championship game. Sheesh. Ten NFL head coaches were probably fired this year because the Patriots, Bears, and Jaguars all made it to the playoffs in their first season as new head coaches. Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 26 Posted January 26 (edited) I feel coaches like McDermott and Schottenheimer etc. have great processes and build nice cultures. Their way can win a lot of games. Ultimately, they lack innovation and get beat by someone a little smarter or willing to take more risk to be better. JMO Edited January 26 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower 1 Quote
ExWNYer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 22 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: It might be different if this owner hadn't gone down this exact road previously with big-mouth Rex Ryan in their first HC hire. The owners got together with the GM, along with others in the FO, and Ryan pitched them his spiel. We don't know what he said to them, but it was probably along the lines of "I'm noted to be a great defensive mind". Then he went on to completely ruin the Buffalo defense that was the #1 sack defense the previous season. Hiring a head coach is like a box of chocolates.... Wasn't it scumbag Russ Brandon who pushed for the Rex Ryan hire? To answer @Sweats question...I'm confident for the future of the Bills as long as Josh Allen continues to play like Josh Allen. He covers a lot of warts. (And, for cripes sake, get him some difference maker(s) at WR) Quote
Boatdrinks Posted January 26 Posted January 26 51 minutes ago, KHAN said: The fact that Terry is holding the leash does not fill me with confidence. Well, he is the owner after all. Most of these NFL owner types are quirky to say the least. Quote
Green Lightning Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Honestly, I wouldn't be stunned to see us back and stronger than ever. I also wouldn't be stunned to see us 9-8 or 8-9 doing a reset and bringing in different players that fit the new coach's schemes. So I am just keeping my head down, walking through the suckage, ignoring football but secretly praying the Seahawks destroy the Cheats. 1 Quote
Nihilarian Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 minute ago, ExWNYer said: Wasn't it scumbag Russ Brandon who pushed for the Rex Ryan hire? Yes, he was involved in the hiring process, as well as the owners, among other front office people. Ultimately, it was the owner's decision, though. This is what they are doing again currently, except that Beane might have the final say this time. After they fired Rex Ryan, they hired a consulting group that found them McDermott. I know I'd be more tranquil if that were to happen again. 1 Quote
Sweats Posted January 26 Author Posted January 26 8 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: Wasn't it scumbag Russ Brandon who pushed for the Rex Ryan hire? To answer @Sweats question...I'm confident for the future of the Bills as long as Josh Allen continues to play like Josh Allen. He covers a lot of warts. (And, for cripes sake, get him some difference maker(s) at WR) I think it was Russ who said to not let Rex out of the building without hiring him.............ugh 1 Quote
nuklz2594 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 seems like the bills are becoming the cowboys...the presser was not a good look and plain brutal 1 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 26 Posted January 26 9 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I feel coaches like McDermott and Schottenheimer etc. have great processes and build nice cultures. Their way can win a lot of games. Ultimately, they lack innovation and get beat by someone a little smarter or willing to take more risk to be better. JMO The defense was not good enough. Which is not a good omen for a defensive-minded head coach. It was probably among the weakest defenses in the playoffs period. Considering the amount of resources spent on these players, is it as simple as we don't know how to scout? or has the coaching regressed over the years? When that head coach also preaches ball-control, game management, and complimentary football - one would expect a team built around a stout defense. 2 Quote
Old Coot Posted January 26 Posted January 26 I'm confident that things will get worse before they get better. With a new HC there will be an adjustment period. Hopefully the new HC can get us back on track to the SB and sooner rather than later. Go Bills! Quote
dcinmuncie Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 hours ago, Sweats said: Sure there is..........what does your gut tell you? That I’m pretty hungry Quote
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