oldmanfan Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) We’ve had a couple days now, the presser, the immediate reactions. So here’s the basic question for those upset over what has transpired: How many years? You have a coach that did a really good job, but could not get his team over the hump in 9 years. So how many more should McD have gotten? One? Two? Five? I applaud McD for what he accomplished and wish him well at his next job. But it was time. And I base it on last Saturday. They scored two TDs because starters cramped up, and we put reserves in who hadn’t played and put them on islands. When push came to shove you look back over the last 9 years there were always some decisions that hurt in the big games. So we’ll see if we can find the Gruden who replaced Dungy and won the SB. Edited January 21 by oldmanfan 12 14 Quote
Low Positive Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I've been thinking about this all day. Because the divorce was so messy, they forced the kids (all of us) to take sides. Hence the surprisingly hot takes. 4 2 Quote
HoofHearted Posted January 21 Posted January 21 McD is a really good coach, but it was time. Should have been a clean sweep of the entire operation. Start fresh with new leadership and new visions. 1 7 Quote
davefan66 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) It was time to fire him. The Denver loss was more of the same. Rinse and repeat of the many playoff losses. Had a team that should have gone all the way this year. Great man. Great human being. But just didn’t have it in him to get us over the hump. Could make a case he should have been fired before this. Edited January 21 by davefan66 7 5 Quote
GoBills808 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 It was time really after 13seconds would have been the best time but we kind of knew that wasn't in the cards 7 6 2 2 Quote
PepeSilvia Posted January 21 Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: We’ve had a couple days now, the presser, the immediate reactions. So here’s the basic question for those upset over what has transpired: How many years? You have a coach that did a really good job, but could not get his team over the hump in 9 years. So how many more should McD have gotten? One? Two? Five? I applaud McD for what he accomplished and wish him well at his next job. But it was time. And I base it on last Saturday. They scored two TDs because starters cramped up, and we put reserves in who hadn’t played and put them on islands. When push came to shove you look back over the last 9 years there were always some decisions that hurt in the big games. So we’ll see if we can find the Gruden who replaced Dungy and won the SB. Leaving Jackson and Savage on an island was a terrible coaching decision on his part, and a great job on Payton’s for seeing it and going right after them. McDermott has a history of this. Just off the top of my head: The Hail Murray The Minnesota game and 4th and 17 and Justin Jefferson catch The Overtime game with Tampa when he decided to have Tremaine Edmunds in man coverage on Chris Godwin 13 seconds 17 Penalties and 3 turnovers in the New England game this year (along with Atlanta, Miami and Philly are all bad loses from not having your team buttoned up) Last week it’s 3rd and 11 and the defense gives up 25 to Sutton Have you ever seen a defense give up so many 3rd and 4th and longs? Is there a worse coach in choosing which plays to review? Ultimately, not being buttoned up when it matters the most is what cost McDermott his job 12 7 2 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) 23 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: We’ve had a couple days now, the presser, the immediate reactions. So here’s the basic question for those upset over what has transpired: How many years? You have a coach that did a really good job, but could not get his team over the hump in 9 years. So how many more should McD have gotten? One? Two? Five? I applaud McD for what he accomplished and wish him well at his next job. But it was time. And I base it on last Saturday. They scored two TDs because starters cramped up, and we put reserves in who hadn’t played and put them on islands. When push came to shove you look back over the last 9 years there were always some decisions that hurt in the big games. So we’ll see if we can find the Gruden who replaced Dungy and won the SB. Edited January 21 by SoonerBillsFan 1 Quote
Juice_32 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 As painful as it is, go back and watch 13 seconds. Watch the line of defenders 15 yards from the line. Then watch the Denver 3rd and 11. It was NEVER going to change. I get the complaints about the roster, I do, but this team should have a trophy and we don't. It falls on McD. 8 2 Quote
JMM Posted January 21 Posted January 21 12 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: We’ve had a couple days now, the presser, the immediate reactions. So here’s the basic question for those upset over what has transpired: How many years? You have a coach that did a really good job, but could not get his team over the hump in 9 years. So how many more should McD have gotten? One? Two? Five? I applaud McD for what he accomplished and wish him well at his next job. But it was time. And I base it on last Saturday. They scored two TDs because starters cramped up, and we put reserves in who hadn’t played and put them on islands. When push came to shove you look back over the last 9 years there were always some decisions that hurt in the big games. So we’ll see if we can find the Gruden who replaced Dungy and won the SB. This is a very good point. I mean who at least hasn't thought to themselves " maybe he's just not gonna be able to get us over the hump"? Hmm? I'd say ALL OF US. Then, how long do you wait? Would next year be better? HOW? WHY? It's a calculated risk in a production business. McDermott deserves a ton of credit, he brought us out of the wilderness. He made us a perennial contender. We will always be grateful to him. Pegs wants a CHAMPIONSHIP. So do I. IT WAS TIME. 2 1 Quote
IYKYK Posted January 21 Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: We’ve had a couple days now, the presser, the immediate reactions. So here’s the basic question for those upset over what has transpired: How many years? You have a coach that did a really good job, but could not get his team over the hump in 9 years. So how many more should McD have gotten? One? Two? Five? I applaud McD for what he accomplished and wish him well at his next job. But it was time. And I base it on last Saturday. They scored two TDs because starters cramped up, and we put reserves in who hadn’t played and put them on islands. When push came to shove you look back over the last 9 years there were always some decisions that hurt in the big games. So we’ll see if we can find the Gruden who replaced Dungy and won the SB. I think you might be mistaken. Nobody wanted McD to continue coaching. They wanted both gone. They both are responsible for this. 2 Quote
Cash Posted January 21 Posted January 21 12 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: We’ve had a couple days now, the presser, the immediate reactions. So here’s the basic question for those upset over what has transpired: How many years? You have a coach that did a really good job, but could not get his team over the hump in 9 years. So how many more should McD have gotten? One? Two? Five? I applaud McD for what he accomplished and wish him well at his next job. But it was time. And I base it on last Saturday. They scored two TDs because starters cramped up, and we put reserves in who hadn’t played and put them on islands. When push came to shove you look back over the last 9 years there were always some decisions that hurt in the big games. So we’ll see if we can find the Gruden who replaced Dungy and won the SB. I'm still sad about McD being fired. But I'm not angry, and I don't think I ever was. I think I would've given Beane/McD exactly 1 more year, but I don't know the behind the scenes stuff so whatever. In any case, at some point you need a fresh start and Pegula decided this was that point. He could've made the same call last year, or the year before, or the year before that and been close to equally justified. Now I WAS angry about Beane's promotion at first, but I think I've made peace with it. Today's presser helped with that. RE: the bolded - or the Dungy who replaced Mora and won the SB! 2 Quote
davefan66 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 9 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: Leaving Jackson and Savage on an island was a terrible coaching decision on his part, and a great job on Payton’s for seeing it and going right after them. McDermott has a history of this. Just off the top of my head: The Hail Murray The Minnesota game and 4th and 17 and Justin Jefferson catch The Overtime game with Tampa when he decided to have Tremaine Edmunds in man coverage on Chris Godwin 13 seconds 17 Penalties and 3 turnovers in the New England game this year (along with Atlanta, Miami and Philly are all bad loses from not having your team buttoned up) Last week it’s 3rd and 11 and the defense gives up 25 to Sutton Have you ever seen a defense give up so many 3rd and 4th and longs? Is there a worse coach in choosing which plays to review? Ultimately, not being buttoned up when it matters the most is what cost McDermott his job All season they gave up that 3rd and 10 to 15 to a wide open guy between defenders. Why are you not defending the line to gain?? Watching the games from the upper deck, you could see the play develop and that hole be open for the receiver to sit in. McD never adjusted to it. 3 Quote
Low Positive Posted January 21 Posted January 21 12 minutes ago, HoofHearted said: McD is a really good coach, but it was time. Should have been a clean sweep of the entire operation. Start fresh with new leadership and new visions. Historically, in order to conduct a clean sweep, an NFL team needs to fire the GM in-season so that they can have a front office staff in place in time to conduct the coaching search and prepare for the draft. Both Washington and the Jets did this over the past couple of years and the Fins did that this year. The Bills being in contention this year prevented that. So, Beane had to stay. FWIW, I think the "promotion" is a non-story. He already reported directly to the owner and had no one above him in the front office. I work in higher ed, and they slap meaningless associate provost titles on administrators all the time. I see this like that. 3 2 Quote
bmur66 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 How many of us knew Peyton was going to immediately go after Jackson and Savage? I know I did because Peyton is a smart coach. If the situation was reversed the Bills probably would have ran the ball. McD probably needed a change of scenery too. He will land on his feet and be just fine. Maybe his new team will want to trade for some of his guys. 👏 2 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 21 Posted January 21 10 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: 3-5 Stupid site. I posted minus 3-5 1 1 Quote
Hsker4life Posted January 21 Posted January 21 It was time. It was probably time two years ago. 1 2 Quote
rajinka Posted January 21 Posted January 21 9 minutes ago, IYKYK said: I think you might be mistaken. Nobody wanted McD to continue coaching. They wanted both gone. They both are responsible for this. I dunno i see alot of ppl crying for mcd to come back. Quote
JMM Posted January 21 Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, IYKYK said: I think you might be mistaken. Nobody wanted McD to continue coaching. They wanted both gone. They both are responsible for this. HUH??? Have you been reading this board?? Many wanted him to remain the coach. Not saying it's wrong but a LOT did. Quote
IYKYK Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Just now, rajinka said: I dunno i see alot of ppl crying for mcd to come back. Well there are a few crazy people in this world. 😂 Just now, JMM said: HUH??? Have you been reading this board?? Many wanted him to remain the coach. Not saying it's wrong but a LOT did. It seems to me most of them wanted both gone. Though I could be wrong. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote
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