NeverOutNick Posted January 22 Posted January 22 3 hours ago, stevewin said: A Brady HC and Webb OC combo would certainly be Josh-friendly - both from a personal/comfort angle as well as an offense continuity one. Also an overall team culture continuity.. If they were to crush a DC hire I'd be OK with that combo Would be great except Webb is going to be a HC this cycle. If it’s not us say hello to the new Raiders HC Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 22 Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: Would be great except Webb is going to be a HC this cycle. If it’s not us say hello to the new Raiders HC He shouldn't be. He hasnt even been a coordinator and call plays. Can he be a great HC someday, heck yeah! Just not this year 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted January 22 Posted January 22 14 hours ago, zow2 said: Joe Brady is getting a head coaching job somewhere. Could be NFL, could be collegiate but I think he's getting a head job. Probably better off that he does. I don't think he's getting the Bills HC job and if you think the Bills are bringing in an offensive coach like I do, he's most likely not going to be retained by the new regime. Quote
NeverOutNick Posted January 22 Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: He shouldn't be. He hasnt even been a coordinator and call plays. Can he be a great HC someday, heck yeah! Just not this year Quote me on this and call me a moron if he’s not a head coach this year. I’ll run through my neighborhood in my underwear (naked is only for a SB win) if he’s actually our OC and I’ll be just as happy if he’s our HC 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 minute ago, NeverOutNick said: Quote me on this and call me a moron if he’s not a head coach this year. I’ll run through my neighborhood in my underwear (naked is only for a SB win) if he’s actually our OC and I’ll be just as happy if he’s our HC Copy and paste. Save to one drive. 😁 1 1 Quote
Kincaid Kool-Aid Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) Not saying I want Brady back necessarily, and it could be just time to turn the page for vibes alone. That said, I saw some overall 2025 offensive numbers and Brady's offense was ahead of Kubiak's in just about every major metric this year. You could argue in his case he also did this all without any legitimate WRs where defenses could key in on the run, which still obvioiusly was a huge success. Very likely, he was also hemmed in by McD's convervative approach. Yes, he had Allen vs. Darnold, yet Darnold has proven over the past 2 years he has the talent that got him drafted top 10 and has far better receivers like JSN. Like I said, I totally get Brady is a hard sell to a pissed fan base and for that reason alone seems less likely to get the gig, but is Kubiak honestly a better offensive coach? Brady also has the advantage of relationships here and respect in the locker room by all accounts. Do we know if Kubiak is seen as a true leader outside of his offensive bonafides? Edited January 23 by Kincaid Kool-Aid 2 Quote
zow2 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kincaid Kool-Aid said: Not saying I want Brady back necessarily, and it could be just time to turn the page for vibes alone. That said, I saw some overall 2025 offensive numbers and Brady's offense was ahead of Kubiak's in just about every major metric this year. You could argue in his case he also did this all without any legitimate WRs where defenses could key in on the run, which still obvioiusly was a huge success. Yes, he had Allen vs. Darnold, yet Darnold has proven over the past 2 years he has the talent that got him drafted top 10 and has far better receivers like JSN. Like I said, I totally get Brady is a hard sell to a pissed fan base and for that reason alone seems less likely to get the gig, but is Kubiak honestly a better offensive coach? Brady also has the advantage of relationships here and respect in the locker room by all accounts. Do we know if Kubiak is seen as a true leader outside of his offensive bonafides? I'm not completely sold on Kubiak. I know he's smart, has the lineage and the Shanahan influence, but wasn't he the OC of a lousy Saints club in 2024? They had Carr at QB, Kamara, Olave, Shaheed, etc. Then eventually Carr got injured and Rattler came in so I can't judge him on that. Now they have a very good team in Seattle with Darnold, talented skill guys and a very dynamic defense. I'm not sure he is a leader of men though. Not sure about Brady either but as you said he already has the respect.. but Brady still carries over the playoff disappointments when you see him. Maybe they want to move off that? Personally I think Udinski seems like the next great young wiz kid...and has a better personality than Kubiak imo. Edited January 23 by zow2 Quote
Kincaid Kool-Aid Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, zow2 said: I'm not completely sold on Kubiak. I know he's smart, has the lineage and the Shanahan influence, but wasn't he the OC of a lousy Saints club in 2024? They had Carr at QB, Kamara, Olave, Shaheed, etc. Then eventually Carr got injured and Rattler came in so I can't judge him on that. Now they have a very good team in Seattle with Darnold, talented skill guys and a very dynamic defense. I'm not sure he is a leader of men though. Not sure about Brady either but as you said he already has the respect.. but Brady still carries over the playoff disappointments when you see him. Maybe they want to move off that? Personally I think Udinski seems like the next great young wiz kid...and has a better personality than Kubiak imo. Agree. Definitely respect his pedigree and recent results in Seattle but something in my gut is giving me pause. Watched a couple of his pressers to get a sense of his vibe and wasn't overly excited. Both Webb and Udinski and for that matter Brady, seem to display more charisma based on the little I've seen of their interviews. Recognize this is a very naive take based on very little info, but Kubiak just didn't strike me as very inspiring. 1 Quote
FormerLV-BILLS Posted January 23 Posted January 23 On 1/21/2026 at 9:41 AM, Sargent Hulka said: Without Josh Allen, Brady is a bush league OC! Same with McDermott and Beane. This franchise would have been valiantly running to 7-9, 8-8 the last five seasons without Allen. This. Except more like 3-14, 2-15 without Allen. This roster is absolute garbage. And to think that it's over the cap already, or close to the cap, is ridciulous. Ugh. 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 23 Posted January 23 If coaching was the problem how do you bring back McDermott's staff? 2 Quote
zow2 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 16 minutes ago, Kincaid Kool-Aid said: Agree. Definitely respect his pedigree and recent results in Seattle but something in my gut is giving me pause. Watched a couple of his pressers to get a sense of his vibe and wasn't overly excited. Both Webb and Udinski and for that matter Brady, seem to display more charisma based on the little I've seen of their interviews. Recognize this is a very naive take based on very little info, but Kubiak just didn't strike me as very inspiring. I think Charisma is important, and they gotta have the "IT factor" or some intangible to be a leader. Certainly McVay has the charisma. But then you have a bunch of coaches over the last few years like Kliff Kingsbury, or the guy in Arizona who was just fired (Gannon?). I'm sure they are super smart, but they were zero's when it came to personality and charisma. On the flip side I actually thought Ben Johnson was a big zero in that department and clearly he's an Alpha. I was wrong about him for sure. The Bills need to thread the needle with their hire. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I'll just say no. His playcalling was horrific at times and too predictable. He got Josh nearly killed in Houston with zero adjustments. He needs to move on Quote
Tulsabillsfanz Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I think you promote a coordinator when your head coach retires or gets hired away. When you fire the head coach, you usually want to change the mindset of the team. In this case, we need to get the losing playoff monkey off our back. I think we need a coach that brings a fresh new perspective to Buffalo. Quote
Bray Wyatt Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Is there any team left where Joe Brady has had an interview and a job still open? Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I think Brady was bein looked at in the b tier/backup plan level of guys that McDaniel is probably leading right now. I’d assume the plan is still kubiak Quote
Bray Wyatt Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Is there any team left where Joe Brady has had an interview and a job still open? Adding to this, is there any chance he comes back as OC here if we do not take him as a HC? Browns - I wouldnt take the job if I was him Raiders - maybe he would take this, but I feel like if they wanted him they would have offered him Cardinals - did he even interview here? Steelers - did he even interview here? Quote
davefan66 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: If coaching was the problem how do you bring back McDermott's staff? Was it his staff or McD? Word was McD was calling defensive plays for some time this season. Is poor defensive play calling the fault of the offense? That and situational awareness killed us in Denver. Brady might not be what we need, but I wouldn’t hate him back as OC. Did well this past year but was held back by lack of WR depth and field stretchers. Cooks signing did help. 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I don't think Brady gets enough credit from us on what he was able to produce with that wide receiver room. He had the #2 and #4 offenses the past two years with a mash unit of perpetually injured journeyman, last leg vets, street free agents, special teams dudes and flat out busts out wide. Players apparently love him too. I'm not saying he'd be my first choice, but he's an objectively solid candidate from a resume perspective. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I can't speak to 100% certainly, but I have heard after his interview he was told he was free to explore other non Head Coach opportunities. If that's indeed the case, it doesn't look good for his outlook as a HC here and would also tell me they don't anticipate hiring a HC that would want to retain him. 1 Quote
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