Mr. WEO Posted January 21 Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Walking Tall said: All I can do is laugh at people that think Sean McDermott wasn’t heavily involved in personnel decisions. Every HC is 1 Quote
Rocbillsfan1 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 3 hours ago, NORWOODS FOOT said: Keeping Beane is no good. He drafts high floor / low ceiling guys with “leadership” qualities. He does not draft players with traits that create mismatches. He takes the “safe” road instead of dealing with complexity in pursuit of a championship. His “above average” (nothing spectacular) roster puts all of the pressure on Josh to be perfect. It’s a bull#### strategy that has given us the result we have - wasting the best years of a generational talent. Why do people keep saying the draft was all Beane? Quote
NORWOODS FOOT Posted January 21 Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: Why do people keep saying the draft was all Beane? Because that’s the general perception. No one is entirely clear on the reality as far as I know 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Thats not really what was said. End of the day good coach, good team. Need a new message after the continued disappointments. What was going to change in 26 than would result in a different outcome in 26? The roster is never going to be perfect. It’s not madden they cant toggle the injury setting to off. 1 1 Quote
Walking Tall Posted January 21 Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Every HC is Correct. But some here don’t think that is the case. Quote
MJS Posted January 21 Posted January 21 3 hours ago, DaVinci said: 7 years of playoff football not one sack. That's not true. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 21 Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Walking Tall said: Correct. But some here don’t think that is the case. well it makes the GM equally culpable 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Walking Tall said: The Bills NEEDED a QB in 2017 and passed on Patrick Mahomes. You never should pass on a franchise QB when you don’t have one. Ask John Elway. Beane came in, acquired further draft capital necessary, and luckily got Allen the next year. If Beane wasn’t able to pull that off how would you feel about passing on Mahomes? I remember it being reported that Whaley wanted to draft Mahomes Quote
Walking Tall Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) Just now, Mr. WEO said: well it makes the GM equally culpable yes it does…it also Makes scouts, coaches, assistant GM’s responsible as well. Edited January 21 by Walking Tall Quote
MJS Posted January 21 Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: Why do people keep saying the draft was all Beane? Because he is the general manager and every bit of information that has ever come out from Beane and McDermott has pointed to Beane being in charge of the draft and personnel. It is what they have always claimed, until now. 2 hours ago, Walking Tall said: All I can do is laugh at people that think Sean McDermott wasn’t heavily involved in personnel decisions. That's how it works for every team. You don't think head coaches are involved? They identify the players they need. They tell their GMs and scouts what to look for and what traits they want. That's just how it works everywhere. 1 Quote
Walking Tall Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 minute ago, MJS said: Because he is the general manager and every bit of information that has ever come out from Beane and McDermott has pointed to Beane being in charge of the draft and personnel. It is what they have always claimed, until now. It’s because Beane has the most information and can talk with the most knowledge on players drafted. 3 minutes ago, MJS said: Because he is the general manager and every bit of information that has ever come out from Beane and McDermott has pointed to Beane being in charge of the draft and personnel. It is what they have always claimed, until now. That's how it works for every team. You don't think head coaches are involved? They identify the players they need. They tell their GMs and scouts what to look for and what traits they want. That's just how it works everywhere. seriously, did you comprehend at all what I posted? Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 21 Posted January 21 3 hours ago, NORWOODS FOOT said: Keeping Beane is no good. He drafts high floor / low ceiling guys with “leadership” qualities. He does not draft players with traits that create mismatches. He takes the “safe” road instead of dealing with complexity in pursuit of a championship. His “above average” (nothing spectacular) roster puts all of the pressure on Josh to be perfect. It’s a bull#### strategy that has given us the result we have - wasting the best years of a generational talent. Are you sure? From all thats coming out, McDermott had a lot of say in the draft Quote
MJS Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Walking Tall said: It’s because Beane has the most information and can talk with the most knowledge on players drafted. When asked they've always said it is a collaboration but Beane has final say. I take them at their word. I don't think McDermott had the power to override Beane in anything. But I'm sure he advocated his opinion, as he should have. Edited January 21 by MJS 1 Quote
Walking Tall Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Just now, MJS said: When asked they've always said it is a collaboration but Beane has final say. I take them at their word. I don't think McDermott had the power to override Beane in anything. But I'm sure he advocate his opinion, as he should have. Correct. And that is what I have been saying forever. Quote
Southern McButterpants Posted January 21 Posted January 21 3 hours ago, NORWOODS FOOT said: Keeping Beane is no good. He drafts high floor / low ceiling guys with “leadership” qualities. He does not draft players with traits that create mismatches. He takes the “safe” road instead of dealing with complexity in pursuit of a championship. His “above average” (nothing spectacular) roster puts all of the pressure on Josh to be perfect. It’s a bull#### strategy that has given us the result we have - wasting the best years of a generational talent. That's Admiral Sean. 1 Quote
The Red King Posted January 21 Posted January 21 As others have said, we have no idea how much influence McD had on those drafts. This upcoming draft will show us a lot... 2 Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Beane’s first free agent acquisition will be to lure Kelvin Benjamin out of retirement to pair him with Keon Coleman. 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 perhaps it was a similar setup to in PIT where Tomlin had a LOT of influence over the roster. Quote
Don Otreply Posted January 21 Posted January 21 He is not being scapegoated, that’s a bunch of BS 2 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 21 Posted January 21 27 minutes ago, Walking Tall said: yes it does…it also Makes scouts, coaches, assistant GM’s responsible as well. yes. that's why you clean house. 1 Quote
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