Brian Daboll requested by Bills to interview

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I might walk outside in the freezing cold and staple-gun my nards to a tree if they hire this absolute turd. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

I might walk outside in the freezing cold and staple-gun my nards to a tree if they hire this absolute turd. 

Lol I didn’t think there was a thing on this earth that would make me stop watching the bills but that would probably do it 

[Beck Water]

14 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

Had no run game because Singletary was very slow and just not good enough, he's maybe half what Cook is.

 

You do understand that decent OL blocking is part of a successful run game, yes?

You are correct that Singletary is and was not an all-pro type RB.  But he was a 4.4, 4.6, 4.6 YPA guy in his time here and remained >4 YPA his next year in Houston.  That's an average NFL RB.  Not a star, not a great one, but an average back.  For a team overall, it's actually top-10 YPA stats.  
 

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

From Joe Marino 

From Joe Marino

What's up, Bills Mafia!? The Bills' first interview requests have been announced, including Brian Daboll, Joe Brady, and Anthony Lynn.

Brady and Daboll were expected; Lynn is a bit of a surprise. Will break these down on the pod. 

GO BILLS!

 

That is a list that says to me the Bills are not serious about conducting an actual reflective and thorough coaching search.  And not conducting an actual reflective and thorough coaching search is a sign of dysfunction.

 

Because even if they are going for the "Rooney Rule", they could bring in a dozen guys they could genuinely have a dialog with about defensive philosophy.  And if you hire one, that 3rd round pick you get is not to be despised.

 

 

Edited January 21 by Beck Water

[BeyondTheProcess]

55 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

Since when does “we need a new coach, mcD can’t get it done” translate into “I want and must have Daboll as coach” ? 

 

That’s like complaining about your neighbor for leaving trash in your yard, then when he moves out and the next neighbor takes a dump in your pool, someone says “see, the last guy wasn’t so bad after all”.

if having the best record, most points, largest score differential in the NFL for the past 6 seasons = leaving trash in your yard, then yeah ok , fine.  

[Roundybout]

 

 

I really don’t want Daboll, his time in NY was rough, that weird 2022 season aside. 

[Dillenger4]

Beane will chat with a lot of coaches over the next few weeks. Grain of salt time boys. Kubiak can't interview yet - give it time.

[billieve420]

32 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

BB has been awful for like 5 years now. He is also being controlled by a 25 year old. It’s wild some people think that dirty grandpa is still a viable candidate.

 

and firing the 2nd best coach in bulls history to replace him with a 20-40 coach who’s team hates him by the end would be so billsy.

 

oC to Tomlin sure. No to head coach. 

 

Yeah for me to get onboard the Daboll train. I would want him to come back at OC to start. Biggest issue has been the defense and I think Belicheck can still put a game plan together to get us over the hump come playoff time. Belicheck's biggest issue was him being the GM and doing terrible job drafting players and not having a QB like Brady anymore. With Allen I just need him to get this defense in shape and I would like that as a short term move.

[Yobogoya!]

Daboll would be crazy high risk/ reward. 

 

If he missed playoffs with Josh next season it would be egg-a-palooza all over Beane and Pegula's faces. 

 

Dunno how they can take that chance. 

[Kelly to Allen]

4 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

Daboll would be crazy high risk/ reward. 

 

If he missed playoffs with Josh next season it would be egg-a-palooza all over Beane and Pegula's faces. 

 

Dunno how they can take that chance. 

 

Josh Allen looked his best when he was with Daboll. 

 

And I think his aggressiveness as an offensive play caller when it comes to the passing game fits the framework more of who Josh Allen is.

 

Turning this offense into a ball control offense to minimize turnovers was drastically diminishing the ceiling of Josh Allen. you were always going to get some level of risk because Josh Allen is a gunslinger. 

 

 

At least in a wide open aggressive passing game you're getting all of the ceiling and upside of Josh Allen with generally the same risk....

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 21 by Kelly to Allen

[SydneyBillsFan]

Weren't his last two games as OC:

 

* 47-17 v Pats

* 13 seconds

 

I'll gladly have that guy back - IF we can attract a gun DC

 

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Edited January 21 by SydneyBillsFan

[Heels20X6]

3 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Josh Allen looked his best when he was with Daboll. 

 

And I think his aggressiveness as an offensive play caller when it comes to the passing game fits the framework more of who Josh Allen is.

 

Turning this offense into a ball control offense to minimize turnovers was drastically diminishing the ceiling of Josh Allen. you were always going to get some level of risk because Josh Allen is a gunslinger. 

 

 

At least in a wide open aggressive passing game you're getting all of the ceiling and upside of Josh Allen with generally the same risk....

 

 

 

 

 

It had to be a ball control offense because the defense was not good enough to be on the field much. Who can forget those years where Josh could lead a TD in a minter and 30

seconds only for the defense to be on the field for nearly the entire quarter and give it right back?

[Yobogoya!]

3 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Josh Allen looked his best when he was with Daboll. 

 

And I think his aggressiveness as an offensive play caller when it comes to the passing game fits the framework more of who Josh Allen is.

 

Turning this offense into a ball control offense to minimize turnovers was drastically diminishing the ceiling of Josh Allen. you were always going to get some level of risk because Josh Allen is a gunslinger. 

 

 

At least in a wide open aggressive passing game you're getting all of the ceiling and upside of Josh Allen with generally the same risk....

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree completely about his time as OC. He schemed much more to Josh's strengths, and once he was gone it became McD's mission to institute turtle ball and gimp our generational QB. 

 

But his tenure as a HC was basically a disaster. 

 

If he came back as a coordinator I don't think there would be much push back. As the man in charge? Like I said, if he had a season akin to his last few in NY it would be a media disaster (and a waste of another of Josh's seasons). Dunno if the risk/reward makes sense. 

[Kelly to Allen]

7 minutes ago, Heels20X6 said:

It had to be a ball control offense because the defense was not good enough to be on the field much. Who can forget those years where Josh could lead a TD in a minter and 30

seconds only for the defense to be on the field for nearly the entire quarter and give it right back?

 

 

That's true, but that's like having Scarlett Johansson as your gf but never hanging out because you told your buddy Billy bob about watching the NASCAR race together 

 

 

 

 

 

" Sorry babe, me & Billy bob are going to watch rusty Wallace highlights"

Edited January 21 by Kelly to Allen

[Mod_Squad_Reject]

NO and HELL no! I’ve seen enough of his work here & with the NYG.  So we’re gonna pick up the trash that the NYG dumped? A guy they had zero faith in?  Yeah no thanks!

Edited January 22 by Mod_Squad_Reject

[Beck Water]

23 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Beane will chat with a lot of coaches over the next few weeks. Grain of salt time boys. Kubiak can't interview yet - give it time.

 

These aren't chats, they're HC interviews.  

OK, let's look at the chat thing though.  You can chat with almost anyone.  You could chat with Anthony Weaver - for a team that was near the bottom in offensive turnovers, he kept them in a bunch of games.  You could chat with Brian Flores.  You could chat with Jessie Mentor.  

Who are you choosing to chat with?  That says a lot.

Edited January 21 by Beck Water

[Dillenger4]

9 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

These aren't chats, they're HC interviews.  

OK, let's look at the chat thing though.  You can chat with almost anyone.  You could chat with Anthony Weaver - for a team that was near the bottom in offensive turnovers, he kept them in a bunch of games.  You could chat with Brian Flores.  You could chat with Jessie Mentor.  

Who are you choosing to chat with?  That says a lot.

It says nothing. YOU will never know what is happening behind the Bills curtain. Let them do their thing - "chat"/interview/whatever. Let them do it with as many candidates as possible until they find the right guy.

Beane will find the guy he wants and hopefully it helps us win the SB.

[Beck Water]

24 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

Josh Allen looked his best when he was with Daboll. 

 

Sometimes.  But he also sometimes looked his worst when he was with Daboll.
 

Little things Allen let drop from time to time indicated that perhaps he wasn't being coached on how to play within structure as well as he could have been,

And the "best" he was playing included him running around making things happen - an ability that will lessen as he gets older.

 

24 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

And I think his aggressiveness as an offensive play caller when it comes to the passing game fits the framework more of who Josh Allen is.

 

Don't forget that when Daboll was here, he ran the ***** out of Josh, leading to a lot of wear and tear by the end of the season.  As McDermott used to say, "at the end of the day you have to be able to run the ball" (without using your QB, implied)

 

24 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

Turning this offense into a ball control offense to minimize turnovers was drastically diminishing the ceiling of Josh Allen. you were always going to get some level of risk because Josh Allen is a gunslinger. 

 

I don't think that's why they turned this into a rushing offense.  They didn't have (or plan to obtain) the WR talent to sustain a high powered passing attack.  Remember that when it was "Gunslinger Mode: ON" at its most successful, we had peak Diggs, peak Beasley, and more-or-less healthy Davis along with some other guys.

And they were also protecting the defense, which was highly vulnerable the last 2 seasons.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, H2o said:

Anthony Lynn tho?

 

Exactly my point.

[teef]

if they got rid of mcd for daboll, i'm going to start throwing punches in the air.  

[BullBuchanan]

Do people forget that easily how frustrating the offensive playcalling was under Daboll?

Yea, it was generally prolific, but there were downright puzzling decisions made at crucial times, and we had a far better WR room. Couple that with his complete meltdown in NY, and I really wnat nothing to do with the guy as a HC. He doesn't have the right mental makeup to be a leader IMO. 

If he was the OC for Belichick or another defensive guru like Flores (though not sure about his leadership capabilities either), I'd be all on board.

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Daboll is a disorganized, emotional mess.  I cannot fathom how dirty the inside of his GMC must be.

The old truck!   I can’t speak to the vehicle, but the garage always had a bunch of crap in it.  Never parked inside.  But then again this is what happens when one has six kids.