Phils n Bills Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Just now, Don Otreply said: They are doing the right thing, Sean was instrumental in re-imagining what the Buffalo Bills are presently, they know damn well that the turn around likely doesn’t happen without him, so put to rest the biases that are floating around. GO BILLS!!! This. We can appreciate and respect McDermott and all that’s he’s done for this team, but also acknowledge something has to change while Allen’s window is still open. Doesn’t have to be zero sum 2 Quote
Captain Murica Posted January 20 Posted January 20 41 minutes ago, Draconator said: Maybe they did realize they F'd up and are trying to make amends? No idea. Good, now Bulldog can finally get some slee. Quote
HappyDays Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said: I’ve agreed with a lot of your stuff that you’ve posted about this firing I disagree here. Are they probably taken aback by outpouring by media probably right there. They had this in the works, it takes time. The season just ended , it was a holiday yesterday. They probably were told yesterday and made it today . I could be wrong, this is something I'm speculating on not something I know. My reasoning is that yesterday's press release was hasty and kind of generic. The fans who believed it was somewhat of a chilly send off were correct. Just to be clear I don't care at all, the optics of what was inevitably going to be a messy separation do not concern me in the slightest. But there was clearly some bad blood there and it showed in how the announcement was made. So no I don't believe this video was planned or that it is anything more than a token gesture to appease certain fans and reporters before the press conference tomorrow. The ironic thing is that those same fans and reporters on Twitter right now are roasting the Bills for putting it out too late. 1 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted January 20 Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, Puckman5 said: Am I supposed to feel sad or cry or something? What happened to the good old days when security escorts you out of the building and that's that?? I will not be happy until he is relieved of all his domestic pets (and the undomestic ones as well) Quote
GoBills808 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 6 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I’ve agreed with a lot of your stuff that you’ve posted about this firing I disagree here. Are they probably taken aback by outpouring by media probably right there. They had this in the works, it takes time. The season just ended , it was a holiday yesterday. They probably were told yesterday and made it today . Bills media and fans are so easy to manipulate too because the city and team is beaten down all the time by outsiders saying the team can’t win the big one, the terrible weather, who would want to live here etc etc. McDermott makes his impassioned Buffalo speech after the loss then goes on the media proclaiming his love which is probably true but of course fans and local media eat it up. “ see he’s one of us” then Darth Vader Beane cuts him down a day later making the optics look bad Re: the outpouring I can't help but feel patronized by some of the national takes rn. Like 'those loveable losers shouldn't have fired that nice man!' As if it's our destiny to somehow just accept being not quite good enough. Um no ***** that we get to try to win SBs too just like the rest of you 4 4 1 Quote
foreboding Posted January 20 Posted January 20 38 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I'm not sure if the Bills did this because they're a classy organization, or because they're trying to appease the players and fans who are angry, or a little bit of both. Speaking as one of the angry fans, it doesn't help. Class just got shown the door. 1 Quote
wppete Posted January 20 Posted January 20 They better not botch this hire. They have to make the biggest hire possible now. Have no idea who that could be at this point or if there is anyone out there that could fit this description. 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I could be wrong, this is something I'm speculating on not something I know. My reasoning is that yesterday's press release was hasty and kind of generic. The fans who believed it was somewhat of a chilly send off were correct. Just to be clear I don't care at all, the optics of what was inevitably going to be a messy separation do not concern me in the slightest. But there was clearly some bad blood there and it showed in how the announcement was made. So no I don't believe this video was planned or that it is anything more than a token gesture to appease certain fans and reporters before the press conference tomorrow. The ironic thing is that those same fans and reporters on Twitter right now are roasting the Bills for putting it out too late. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. I’ve never fired anyone and I have fired people who agreed with my decision. I’ve had anger, I’ve had criers, I’ve had silence, I’ve never had a smile a hand shake and thank you Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 20 Posted January 20 31 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It is 100% damage control. No question. So when they have the presser tomorrow they can head off any questions about why they didn't give McDermott a proper send off. To be honest it's almost more insulting to McDermott to hastily throw this together and put it out there the day after he was fired, but whatever they made their token gesture to appease people. As someone who worked behind the scenes in media for over forty years, I assure you that this video wasn’t “hastily thrown together” Quote
Mango Posted January 20 Posted January 20 23 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I have zero attachment to beane. He can go too but likely he moves to upper management as Pegula backs away from operations altogether and the GM role is promoted in house to deal w football specifics Based on the Sabres I think this signals Pegula getting closer to ops not further away. That said, it does seem like Jarmo has control, so maybe this does signal a shift for Terry. I've been burned by Pegula too many times at this point to give him the benefit of the doubt. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 minute ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: As someone who worked behind the scenes in media for over forty years, I assure you that this video wasn’t “hastily thrown together” I agree I used to do video cut ups for coaches, I have never done hype videos but I have seen them done by video staffs and they all take time with editing, approvals, re edits, sometimes effects of their necessary etc Quote
BRH Posted January 21 Posted January 21 44 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Good reminder that most of the Bills content creators and beat reporters who complained we didn't give him a proper send off didn't actually care about that, and were just looking for reasons to be mad that the team made a move they disagreed with. Anyways. All the stupid propaganda war drama will go away the minute they announce the new head coach and probably even sooner than that. McDermott treated them well. Beane not only wasn’t nice to them at times, he never leaked anything they could use. How many times did we sign or draft a guy that caught them all completely off guard? It happened constantly. (And for the record, I believe that’s the right way to do it.). Anyway, they all got their panties in a twist when they realized Beane was staying. It’s been kind of embarrassing to listen to the shills on WGR today. Quote
HappyDays Posted January 21 Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. I’ve never fired anyone and I have fired people who agreed with my decision. I’ve had anger, I’ve had criers, I’ve had silence, I’ve never had a smile a hand shake and thank you 5 Quote
<bills4life> Posted January 21 Posted January 21 17 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: There is no proper send-off to a guy who was fired. U sure about that? 1 Quote
BRH Posted January 21 Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I agree I used to do video cut ups for coaches, I have never done hype videos but I have seen them done by video staffs and they all take time with editing, approvals, re edits, sometimes effects of their necessary etc And that also ties in with Beane’s approach of keeping things close to the vest. If he’d had them working on a hype video before the announcement, I assure you it would have leaked. Sal and Joe absolutely HATED that they had no inkling of what was about to happen when the announcement dropped. Now they’re all trying to say they “saw the breadcrumbs.” We all saw them for weeks and none of them wanted to pick up the trail. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, BRH said: And that also ties in with Beane’s approach of keeping things close to the vest. If he’d had them working on a hype video before the announcement, I assure you it would have leaked. Sal and Joe absolutely HATED that they had no inkling of what was about to happen when the announcement dropped. Now they’re all trying to say they “saw the breadcrumbs.” We all saw them for weeks and none of them wanted to pick up the trail. I have never seen Sal, who literally works for the Bills, ever have first hand knowledge of any situation involving the Bills. He’s always relayed information or given his opinion on any breaking info but has never actually broken anything so I’m not surprised he feels like adummy for having no inkling it makes him look bad Quote
Walking Tall Posted January 21 Posted January 21 59 minutes ago, JMM said: Not for nothing, but it's been a little over 24 hours. Is that really disrespectful? I'm sorry but although I was shocked and sad about the firing, the uproar seems waaaaay over the top. Everyone looks for reasons to be upset. Quote
The Jokeman Posted January 21 Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, Mango said: Based on the Sabres I think this signals Pegula getting closer to ops not further away. That said, it does seem like Jarmo has control, so maybe this does signal a shift for Terry. I've been burned by Pegula too many times at this point to give him the benefit of the doubt. I think it's Terry stepping away from being a part of the process and let the football guys make football decisions. I guess he believes more in Beane than McDermott. Quote
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