If Beane had not gone on WGR in April 2025, would you still think he is the problem?

[Sweats]

Beane to me, seems that he feels like he's the smartest one in the room.........the worst possible trait in a person.

[boyst]

i am still laughing at this whole event as it played out.

 

there are 4 or 5 threads talking about it.

 

i think it was within a day or so it made national news and Sirius XM NFL Radio with a majority of hosts laughing at the WGR dorks saying they were wrong. we had the best passing team two years in a row. i'm tired of it being discussed.

 

i'll do this...

 

Lazy and tired arguments we don't need more of:

Josh should have won this year because Burrough, Jackson, Mahomes aren't in the playoffs

The Bills had no talent this year

Beane did it all by himself and didn't get McD the players he needed

McDermott was a great coach

[colin]

13 hours ago, BRH said:

Let me throw something else into the mix.

 

Suppose these signings and picks — Palmer, Samuel, Coleman, etc — were what McDermott wanted, and Beane went out and got them for him.  

 

Then he goes on WGR and offers a full-throated defense of the strategy.  Essentially puts his own rep on the line defending McD.

 

Then the games start and it becomes obvious it’s not working, just like what happened last year when Beane had to go get Cooper at the deadline.

 

Wouldn’t you think Beane would have grown progressively more frustrated and resentful at taking all the heat for building a roster in Sean’s image?

 

Even if that's not the case, and I think at least partially it is, what if he just wanted to defend the players on his team?

 

No GM is going to go on the radio with a roster that has been knocking at the door and is the roster they are running with this season and not defend them.  

[Real McCoy]

15 hours ago, BRH said:

Let me throw something else into the mix.

 

Suppose these signings and picks — Palmer, Samuel, Coleman, etc — were what McDermott wanted, and Beane went out and got them for him.  

 

Then he goes on WGR and offers a full-throated defense of the strategy.  Essentially puts his own rep on the line defending McD.

 

Then the games start and it becomes obvious it’s not working, just like what happened last year when Beane had to go get Cooper at the deadline.

 

Wouldn’t you think Beane would have grown progressively more frustrated and resentful at taking all the heat for building a roster in Sean’s image?

Add on McD pushing Diggs out the door after Beane popped prior draft capital and huge payroll to him?

 

I have heard the WGR/Beane interview and think people place way too much stock to talking heads honestly. Beane was obviously aggravated with what he heard prior to the start of his interview. Frankly, Beane is right that this is not fantasy football. So many fans think that we can magically sign every player available.  He obviously seen issues this season and brought in the best he could with Cooks and so on. The trade deadline didn't work out but I'm glad he didn't sell the farm at this phase on the deadline because those assets are now going to be used for the new coaching staff. I'm not sure honestly it would have made a difference this year?  Where has the O finish the last couple yrs in PPG?

Edited January 21 by Real McClappy

[colin]

49 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

Beane didn't hire McDermott. 

 

Beane didn't hire coordinators. 

 

Beane doesn't develop players. 

 

Beane doesn't decide who plays. 

 

I question McDermotts player development.  I question his ability to hire qualified coordinators. I question his critical game decisions. I question his ability to out coach other elite coaches. 

 

I dont question his leadership, his moral compass, his ability to build character, his ability to lead men or his dedication to his craft. 

 

I refuse to believe a team that has dominated this entire decade in every stat, has a poor roster. 

 

I refuse to believe a poor roster can defeat KC 4 straight regular season games, only to lose 4 straight times in the post season with the same roster. 

 

Two things can be true at the same time. 

 

McDermott is a great coach and leader of men. 

 

McDermott cant win against excellent coaches when it matters most. 

 

 

I agree with all of this except I don't question MCD coordination selection -- I have seen irafutible evidence that he cannot select coordinators poorly.

 

He lucked into Frazier who was out of a job at the time, but either Frazier blew in the playoffs or MCD meddled (which we know with certainty he had some many times in the past) and called tight.

 

He loses every single time to good coaches who call easy to execute plays on our overwrought d, he calls d timeouts so much it's a flipping drinking game, he's super fast to call out the o or special teams, and fire guys, if that doesn't go well, but when his o has a positive 25 EPA and his d sh1ts the bed with a -33 he just says they played hard and we have to execute better.  We get beat the same way every time, not in the regs but in the tourney, and he simply hasn't figured it out.

[Urban Achievers]

I would absolutely still be doubting his ability to draft well overall and manage the cap by giving a number of questionable extensions.

 

Would I think he’s as big of a douche as I do now? Probably not. 

 

 

[philholbroo]

10 hours ago, Puckman5 said:

At least Keon made a play in the Denver game.  There a long list of players that didn't.  He was what you'd expect of a project rookie WR until his injury.  Look at his numbers.  Beane (or McBeane) still drafted him too high, so no, nothing gets erased.  

I am meaning the hate he (became) is getting for not having good receivers. If keon has good year then it shows misuse or lack of development. But I also have no problem with drafting him in 2nd round and don't think he was over drafted.

[Sierra Foothills]

12 hours ago, colin said:

 

Even if that's not the case, and I think at least partially it is, what if he just wanted to defend the players on his team?

 

No GM is going to go on the radio with a roster that has been knocking at the door and is the roster they are running with this season and not defend them.  

 

The above is exactly how Beane explained the phone call incident at today's presser.

 

To the question of whether he damaged his reputation? I agree with the 75% in this poll who think that he did and it feels like that damage still exists today. His behavior in the context of non-productive wide receivers was made worse by his subsequent self-justifying media appearances on other outlets and his decision to not make an olive branch appearance on WGR. For many it was a turning point on how they viewed him.

 

If he was asked, he couldn't deny that it was the biggest PR blunder of his career.