Draconator Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Straight forward question. Beane was held in higher regard in some circles. Then when he called into WGR to complain about the criticism of his lacking to draft a quality WR, he has never really recovered for that. 1 1 1 1 1 Quote
BuffaloButt Posted January 20 Posted January 20 If Beane would publicly admit his was wrong about WR and apologize to "Jerry" & Joe that would go a long way. Then if he invested in trading for a top WR and drafting a WR high (if one is worthy of 1st or 2nd round pick), His reputation would be improved. 2 6 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 minute ago, BuffaloButt said: If Beane would publicly admit his was wrong about WR and apologize to "Jerry" & Joe that would go a long way. Then if he invested in trading for a top WR and drafting a WR high (if one is worthy of 1st or 2nd round pick), His reputation would be improved. It’d be wise for him to acknowledge he hasn’t been perfect tomorrow, and where he has shortcomings and regrets. 2 3 Quote
NoSaint Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BuffaloButt said: If Beane would publicly admit his was wrong about WR and apologize to "Jerry" & Joe that would go a long way. Then if he invested in trading for a top WR and drafting a WR high (if one is worthy of 1st or 2nd round pick), His reputation would be improved. it’s an interesting crossroads. given their ppg im not even sure he believes he’s fully wrong now on thinking it’s a want vs a need compared to fixing the defense. i think he might argue shifting the needle 3 points on the points allowed to be around 19 (5th to 10th range) would be easier than 3 ppg scored and being first by over a point you know, given a DC at the helm Edited January 20 by NoSaint 1 1 1 Quote
US Egg Posted January 20 Posted January 20 He’ll likely soft soap it whenever he speaks to spin a human percept to diffuse hostilities, which really isn’t going to sway or matter to most. Could care less either way, wasn’t bothered by his tirade. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 If he wears those guddam sunglasses, he means to take no prisoners. 3 Quote
london_bills Posted January 20 Posted January 20 It's made him more the problem I think because after all he drafted Josh Quote
BRH Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Let me throw something else into the mix. Suppose these signings and picks — Palmer, Samuel, Coleman, etc — were what McDermott wanted, and Beane went out and got them for him. Then he goes on WGR and offers a full-throated defense of the strategy. Essentially puts his own rep on the line defending McD. Then the games start and it becomes obvious it’s not working, just like what happened last year when Beane had to go get Cooper at the deadline. Wouldn’t you think Beane would have grown progressively more frustrated and resentful at taking all the heat for building a roster in Sean’s image? 6 Quote
Julio Hopkins Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) I've been on the Beane ain't it train since the deadline in 2023. All he did was trade for Rasul Douglas, Josh ends up throwing to Trent Sherfield and Deonte Harty in the playoffs. Fun fact, despite combining for over 90% of the snaps they had 10 yards total. Less yards than Latavius Murray with 27. Edited January 20 by Julio Hopkins Quote
london_bills Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Just now, BRH said: Let me throw something else into the mix. Suppose these signings and picks — Palmer, Samuel, Coleman, etc — were what McDermott wanted, and Beane went out and got them for him. Then he goes on WGR and offers a full-throated defense of the strategy. Essentially puts his own rep on the line defending McD. Then the games start and it becomes obvious it’s not working, just like what happened last year when Beane had to go get Cooper at the deadline. Wouldn’t you think Beane would have grown progressively more frustrated and resentful at taking all the heat for building a roster in Sean’s image? Yes for sure Quote
Walking Tall Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) I didn’t even think the discussion with the WGR guys was that bad. The way people acted over It reminds me of everyone flipping out over a typo in a press release. Edited January 20 by Walking Tall 3 1 Quote
ALLinALLEN Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) It's also been reported (WGR said this AM) that he supposedly would call ProFootballFocus if he received a negative grade on a FA move or draft pick, and threaten to pull funding. That SCREAMS to me that he has a fragile ego, on top of the WGR call. edit - link here for proof Edited January 20 by ALLinALLEN 4 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) People here HEAPED braise on "Big Baller Beane" for years. I was never impressed. I thought his pick of Josh Allen, as most QB picks are, was complete luck. I'm sure they believed in him, but I'm also sure that every GM believes in their top 10 QB on draft day. Outside of Allen, it's been whiffs, singles and the occasional double. He did a great job finding serviceable players late, but we do not have a single other superstar on the 53 man roster. And no, I don't consider James Cook a superstar, though that may be an unpopular opinion. His WGR appearance undoubtedly damaged his reputation, but it doesn't change the draft history or atrocious FA acquisitions. Edited January 20 by BullBuchanan 5 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I have thought lack of high end talent around Josh has been the biggest thing holding us back for 3 or 4 seasons. So yes. 2 4 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 20 Posted January 20 8 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: If he wears those guddam sunglasses, he means to take no prisoners. Maybe he’ll show up in McD’s glasses 🤓 2 Quote
london_bills Posted January 20 Posted January 20 7 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: It's also been reported (WGR said this AM) that he supposedly would call ProFootballFocus if he received a negative grade on a FA move or draft pick, and threaten to pull funding. That SCREAMS to me that he has a fragile ego, on top of the WGR call. edit - link here for proof What a narcisistic bully in if true 1 Quote
Don Dokken Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) Beane in that appearance showed such poor judgment on a variety of levels that it made me question his grip on reality Edited January 20 by Don Dokken 5 1 Quote
london_bills Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Is Jerry Sullivan banned from the press conferences? 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Just now, strive_for_five_guy said: Maybe he’ll show up in McD’s glasses 🤓 Pulling a 'Jake Jarmel'...🤔 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) Of course, the WGR call hurt his reputation. But I was already entertaining doubts about his abilities as a GM before then. He started with a bang. Got Allen with his very first draft pick. Signed Hyde and Poyer as free agents that same spring. He's been more fizzle than sizzle since. Edited January 20 by hondo in seattle 1 Quote
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