GerstAusGosheim Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I think the majority of people on this board felt Sean would get another season, myself included. Especially after winning the Jacksonville game. Sal sounded like he was going to cry when he heard the news. Media types were extremely confident that this wouldn't happen. Which makes me think maybe this was an emotional decision by Terry vs something planned. We’ll probably never know what the final straw was for Terry. But I think it was crying Josh at the presser. Such a powerful visual to end a season in which the Patriots took over the division. It also doesn’t help that Diggs and Leslie Frazier made it to their respective championship games. Two guys Sean moved on from. All of that could easily trigger an emotional decision that maybe Terry wasn't initially planning to make. Unless this was a Super Bowl or Bust situation all along for Sean? Curious how others read what ultimately tipped the scale for Terry’s decision? 1 1 1 5 2 Quote
US Egg Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 21 hours ago, GerstAusGosheim said: All of that could easily trigger an emotional decision that maybe Terry wasn't initially planning to make. This was no a knee jerk reaction. I was wrong. @GerstAusGosheim was right. Terry melted at the sight of the distraught locker room. Apparently he didn't notice until recently all the sad Sabre fans faces around the arena for the last decade. Please address my reputation score as it is now tarnished. Edited January 21 by US Egg 7 16 1 2 5 Quote
T.E. Posted January 20 Posted January 20 It was losing yet another playoff game despite putting up enough points to win. The last playoff loss where the defense didn't give up a ton of scores was in 2019, in a game where they still blew a 16-point lead late in the second half. The most obvious plateauing of a team in recent memory. 6 Quote
fridge Posted January 20 Posted January 20 It's hard to fathom it came down to a visual like Josh crying as opposed to say, a decree that this season is a must-win season before it began. 8 playoff appearances in 9 seasons is commendable, but 0 Super Bowl appearances is not. For anyone that would do anything to win a championship, this is a fairly logical and practical move as opposed to an emotional one as you have put it. 3 Quote
Low Positive Posted January 20 Posted January 20 One thing that has been lost in the emotions of the past few days is that both Terry sat and watched the Game in Miami in person. If I was Terry, I would have fired him right then and there, so I think he showed restraint waiting until after the season. 1 Quote
Chaos Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Just now, Low Positive said: One thing that has been lost in the emotions of the past few days is that both Terry sat and watched the Game in Miami in person. If I was Terry, I would have fired him right then and there, so I think he showed restraint waiting until after the season. I wonder if McDermott sabotaged the team by not taking putting Savage and Dane Jackson on islands and not taking a knee at halftime to prove some point about personnel. 1 1 Quote
LarryMadman Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 1 minute ago, Chaos said: I wonder if McDermott sabotaged the team by not taking putting Savage and Dane Jackson on islands and not taking a knee at halftime to prove some point about personnel. If he did that its even more reason to fire him Edited January 20 by LarryMadman 2 1 Quote
BillytheKid Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) Allen and McDermott knew before the season if they didn’t get it done major changes were coming. That’s why McDermott talked the way he did in preseason camp and why Josh was crying at his press conference and McDermott said what he said. This was all known long ahead of time. Edited January 20 by BillytheKid 4 1 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted January 20 Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, Chaos said: I wonder if McDermott sabotaged the team by not taking putting Savage and Dane Jackson on islands and not taking a knee at halftime to prove some point about personnel. I can't imagine he would be so petty as to sabotage a playoff game. Those were just bad defensive play calls. Sometimes a cigar is just Occam's razor. 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Low Positive said: One thing that has been lost in the emotions of the past few days is that both Terry sat and watched the Game in Miami in person. If I was Terry, I would have fired him right then and there, so I think he showed restraint waiting until after the season. He looked quite unhappy that day. That game cost us the division. Sure we lost at home to the pats but that was by 3 to a very good team. Can give him a pass. The Miami game was an albatross. Don’t need a SB roster to win that game - they were barely even in the game. Edited January 20 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Just now, YoloinOhio said: He looked quite unhappy that day You shoulda seen me! 2 6 2 Quote
T.E. Posted January 20 Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, BillytheKid said: Allen and McDermott knew before the season if they didn’t get it done major changes were coming. That’s why McDermott talked the way he did in preseason camp and why Josh was crying at his press conference and McDermott said what he said. This was all known long ahead of time. And Beane likely knew he was safe regardless. Makes his decision to not trade his first-rounder this year a lot clearer. 3 2 1 Quote
Chaos Posted January 20 Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, Low Positive said: I can't imagine he would be so petty as to sabotage a playoff game. Those were just bad defensive play calls. Sometimes a cigar is just Occam's razor. sabotage seems unlikely, but twice though. Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 23 minutes ago, GerstAusGosheim said: I think the majority of people on this board felt Sean would get another season, myself included. Especially after winning the Jacksonville game. Sal sounded like he was going to cry when he heard the news. Media types were extremely confident that this wouldn't happen. Which makes me think maybe this was an emotional decision by Terry vs something planned. We’ll probably never know what the final straw was for Terry. But I think it was crying Josh at the presser. Such a powerful visual to end a season in which the Patriots took over the division. It also doesn’t help that Diggs and Leslie Frazier made it to their respective championship games. Two guys Sean moved on from. All of that could easily trigger an emotional decision that maybe Terry wasn't initially planning to make. Unless this was a Super Bowl or Bust situation all along for Sean? Curious how others read what ultimately tipped the scale for Terry’s decision? Terry pegula is a self made billionaire that made his bones in a very tough business. A business where you need to maneuver with decisions that are thought out on a chess board 4, 5, 6x ahead.... He knew what he wanted to do probably over a year ago.... It's utterly bonkers imo that their are bills fans with more trust for McDermott instead of Terry. It's like trusting a bus driver more on an engineering problem than some ppl at an engineering dept at NASA. I mean McDermott calling jay skurski over & over again to complain about the cooks call says everything you need to know if you just stop and think for like 10 seconds. Sean McDermott never had any business handling a quarterback like Josh Allen and I again am extremely thrilled and filled with jubilation that he is gone Edited January 20 by Kelly to Allen 3 1 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted January 20 Posted January 20 9 minutes ago, extrahammer said: LoI guess we can cross Arians off of the potential coaches list. 10 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Just now, Kelly to Allen said: Terry pegula is a self made billionaire that made his bones in a very tough business. A business where you need to maneuver with decisions that are thought out on a chess board 4, 5, 6x ahead.... He knew what he wanted to do probably over a year ago.... It's utterly bonkers imo that their are bills fans with more trust for McDermott instead of Terry. It's like looking trusting a bus driver more with some positions of an engineering dept at NASA. But Sean stood up for all of Buffalo 7 Quote
JP51 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 7 minutes ago, Chaos said: I wonder if McDermott sabotaged the team by not taking putting Savage and Dane Jackson on islands and not taking a knee at halftime to prove some point about personnel. I do not think so Quote
8BallSippin Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Call me crazy, but not taking a knee at the end of the first half feels like a watershed moment of poor decisions for McD. You have a QB that is nicked up a bit, with mediocre receivers, on the road in altitude and you are the best 2nd half team in the NFL, and you get the ball to start the half.... That decision had trouble written all over it. I thought at the time, this mistake will decide the game, which it kind of did, and this might bury McD.... Perhaps that was the last straw. That wasn't aggressive, that was abjectly dumb. 9 1 Quote
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