BigBilly11 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 29 minutes ago, drummernut74 said: Marv Levy would always say it’s not about being a great offensive head coach or a great defensive head coach … it’s just about being a great HEAD coach. Coordinators from both sides of the ball are going to get poached from good teams. That’s life in the NFL Marv was a Special Teams Coach, as was Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh, both who are SB Champion HCs Copy cat league. Look at a majority of the team's coaches. Playcallers #1 Den, #3 Jax, #1 SEA, I know McDonald is Def HC, but OC whom a lot of fans want as Buf HC , #2 Chi, #3 Phi, #4 Car. #5 LAR, #6 SF, #7 GB A lot of success for HC playcallers. Not so much for Def HCs. Outlier Vrabel with an extremely experience retread OC, good QB, & ***** ton of cap space. >>>Same could be said for Seattle. Def HC want to run the ball. Wasting a top $ QB. Edited January 20 by BigBilly11 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 20 Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: hopefully they talk to all the young defensive coordinators and feel them out to see how they would maybe work with Kubiak if that is the guy like I hope it is. they can satisfy the rooney rule and maybe feel out a bunch of guys for future staff positions Exactly and that happens sometimes. Take a guy like Nathan Scheelhaase. He's young and probably not ready to be a HC. BUT, let's say they like Rams DC Chris Shula. They bring Scheelhaase in as a HC interview, they get a chance to get a feel on him and have a Rooney compliant interview. Then they talk to Shula and if they like him and he says Scheelhaase is the OC he's bringing, the Bills are already comfortable with the move. And on Scheelhaase's side...he keeps his name out there as a possible HC in the future. 2 Quote
Mr Wild Posted January 20 Posted January 20 9 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: She hasn’t reported any names yet but she says she will have them. Curious how those convos went 1 Quote
Walking Tall Posted January 20 Posted January 20 34 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Carolina DC 😂 Albright doesn't have a damned clue. Weaver and Evero? No. 1 Quote
Bangarang Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Can someone please explain to me how Davis Webb is getting HC consideration? Outside of his agent trying to manufacturer buzz for him I literally don't understand the appeal just yet. 3 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 20 Posted January 20 15 minutes ago, drummernut74 said: Marv Levy would always say it’s not about being a great offensive head coach or a great defensive head coach … it’s just about being a great HEAD coach. Coordinators from both sides of the ball are going to get poached from good teams. That’s life in the NFL Marv was a Special Teams Coach, as was Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh, both who are SB Champion HCs You can only work with the tools you are given. We didn't have talented receivers that were capable of more explosive or creative things Yeah spoken by a guy coming from the ST side. But maybe that is better in some ways as not trying to oversee the coordinator as much and let them do their thing. I knew Harbaugh was also but didn't realize that about Tomlin. Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Interesting how many interviews Brady is doing. Now getting a 2nd interview with Ravens which is also viewed as a top job. 1 Quote
May Day 10 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) If they hired Weaver or Evero as HC, just trade Allen and hurry the process into the next drought so we can be a few years closer to the drought ending. Edited January 20 by May Day 10 1 Quote
JMM Posted January 20 Author Posted January 20 7 minutes ago, Walking Tall said: Albright doesn't have a damned clue. Weaver and Evero? No. Rooney rule. I also disagree, the BILLS job is now the crown jewel job IMO, not the Ravens 2 Quote
somnus00 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 hour ago, drummernut74 said: In the aftermath of the McD firing … I find it laughable that one of the sentiments is that we need an offensive minded HC to pair with JA17. Does anyone not realize that last season we scored more points than anyone in the league, with crap receivers, in the “every body eats” year… and this year we were once again one of the highest scoring teams in the league … who just put up 30 points per game, on the road, against excellent defenses, in the playoffs, with crap receivers …. And the same OC both years?!?!?! We need an emotionally cold CEO Head Coach, whose Defenses will not constantly wilt at the wrong time in the playoffs … that Josh can feel comfortable with and trust and not have to constantly feel he needs to play the perfect game out of his ass to win I don't understand this fascination with Klint Kubiak, or some other "up and coming offensive genius" Daboll had a history of failing as a OC. Success with the best qb in the league landed him a head coaching job. I don't think Brady is a very good OC. Success with Josh is getting him head coaching interviews. The reason you want an offensive minded head coach, apart from wanting to maximize your chEat code QB, is coaching consistency. Defensive minded had coaches will have their OC poached after having success with Allen. Then you have to worry about Josh having to learn new systems. If your head coach is also the de facto OC, this isn't a problem. All if this assuming that things go well of course. So yes, I just want a good coach. But I think it's better if that coach is from the offense side of football. Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted January 20 Posted January 20 44 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Carolina DC 😂 Man I love Ejiro Evero. But I don't want to go defense. 1 Quote
Walking Tall Posted January 20 Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, JMM said: Rooney rule. I also disagree, the BILLS job is now the crown jewel job IMO, not the Ravens I’d bring in McDaniel to satisfy the Rooney rule. You actually may come away from that interview with an even better idea of what to look for in an offensive candidate. Quote
sullim4 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, somnus00 said: The reason you want an offensive minded head coach, apart from wanting to maximize your chEat code QB, is coaching consistency. Defensive minded had coaches will have their OC poached after having success with Allen. Then you have to worry about Josh having to learn new systems. If your head coach is also the de facto OC, this isn't a problem. This is really key to me. We haven't had a purely offensive minded head coach since Chan Gailey, right? It's long overdue. Get an offensive minded head coach and lock that side of the ball up. Then hire someone on the defensive side with an aggressive mindset that doesn't rely on high motor, fragile guys on the DL and at LB. 1 Quote
BillMafia716ix Posted January 20 Posted January 20 It’s a step back who ever they hire. Prime of Josh Allen’s career you’re going to give him a rookie head coach who’s never done it? I don’t like that at all. Promote Joe Brady or get Brian Daboll at least they have experience with Josh. Hire a great DC. Give em a 2-3 window to get it done and if not you fire Beane/HC and start all over again. Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, drummernut74 said: In the aftermath of the McD firing … I find it laughable that one of the sentiments is that we need an offensive minded HC to pair with JA17. Does anyone not realize that last season we scored more points than anyone in the league, with crap receivers, in the “every body eats” year… and this year we were once again one of the highest scoring teams in the league … who just put up 30 points per game, on the road, against excellent defenses, in the playoffs, with crap receivers …. And the same OC both years?!?!?! We need an emotionally cold CEO Head Coach, whose Defenses will not constantly wilt at the wrong time in the playoffs … that Josh can feel comfortable with and trust and not have to constantly feel he needs to play the perfect game out of his ass to win I don't understand this fascination with Klint Kubiak, or some other "up and coming offensive genius" But, the same offense returned this year with some tweaks to those wide receivers and put the defense in repeatedly bad situations in the most crucial game of the year. By obtaining an offensive minded head coach, and putting in place a top level defensive coordinator, that builds upon a strength and actually will sharpen the iron on the other side too. i’m not saying that’s what they’ll do, but I won’t be mad if they do. Edited January 20 by MiltonWaddams Quote
Bills14221 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 If you look back at the coach hiring success rate of Pegula for the Bills and Sabres it is very low. Daboll is the quick and easy answer which has the least amount of blowback because they can argue how great of a relationship he and Josh had. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 hour ago, drummernut74 said: In the aftermath of the McD firing … I find it laughable that one of the sentiments is that we need an offensive minded HC to pair with JA17. Does anyone not realize that last season we scored more points than anyone in the league, with crap receivers, in the “every body eats” year… and this year we were once again one of the highest scoring teams in the league … who just put up 30 points per game, on the road, against excellent defenses, in the playoffs, with crap receivers …. And the same OC both years?!?!?! We need an emotionally cold CEO Head Coach, whose Defenses will not constantly wilt at the wrong time in the playoffs … that Josh can feel comfortable with and trust and not have to constantly feel he needs to play the perfect game out of his ass to win I don't understand this fascination with Klint Kubiak, or some other "up and coming offensive genius" We need an offensive minded HC which will help Josh develop even more AND press Beane for offe sive weapons. I just want a DC who attacks and can be innovative with his blitzes etc. 1 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted January 20 Posted January 20 52 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I'm waiting by my phone for a call! Yep. All it would cost the Bills for me to coach the team is a quarter of a million dollars, lifetime season tickets after they fired me and a lawn chair I could watch the game from on the sideline while my assistant coaches coached the game. Quote
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