Bangarang Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Beane tried calling me but I sent his ass to voicemail. 5 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: Kubiak should 100% get a job in this cycle. Unless he brings the Seattle DC with him, I am assuming he brings Joe Woods from the Raiders. Both he and his father have an extensive history with Woods and he is pretty experienced. aden durde is a guy getting interviews i think too at some point. No one knows when his contract is up so its hard to know if he is able to take another dc job 1 Quote
drummernut74 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said: yea you are preaching to the choir here. Kubiak will help them upgrade the wr position. It is a must. They all know. a new defensive scheme is going to be put in place obviously and there is going to be a lot of change on that side of the ball. Let a new staff be dedicated to that. Joe Brady has been forced to make chicken salad from chicken feathers for 2+ years now and has done a pretty darn good job of it. He had JaMarr Chase and Justin Jefferson at LSU...it's not like he doesn't know what a good receiver is. A new HC isn't going suddenly help upgrade the position. That's the GMs job, however now, we are not under control of the McD blueprint and shopping list Part in parcel of this was Terry's goofy power structure where both people reported to him. Remember, McD came first and then BB. This is why the McD had to go and the front office was restructured and streamlined Quote
NoSaint Posted January 20 Posted January 20 26 minutes ago, drummernut74 said: In the aftermath of the McD firing … I find it laughable that one of the sentiments is that we need an offensive minded HC to pair with JA17. Does anyone not realize that last season we scored more points than anyone in the league, with crap receivers, in the “every body eats” year… and this year we were once again one of the highest scoring teams in the league … who just put up 30 points per game, on the road, against excellent defenses, in the playoffs, with crap receivers …. And the same OC both years?!?!?! We need an emotionally cold CEO Head Coach, whose Defenses will not constantly wilt at the wrong time in the playoffs … that Josh can feel comfortable with and trust and not have to constantly feel he needs to play the perfect game out of his ass to win I don't understand this fascination with Klint Kubiak, or some other "up and coming offensive genius" we can get an elite DC to be DC it’s a lot harder to keep an elite OC away from HC its not complicated 2 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted January 20 Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: aden durde is a guy getting interviews i think too at some point. No one knows when his contract is up so its hard to know if he is able to take another dc job Is he able to move if he doesn't call plays? I know that is always a gray area. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted January 20 Posted January 20 PSA Announcement: We will interview Joe Brady and a few other candidates. It doesn't mean anything other than an interview. It's part of the process. Doesn't mean they will hire them immediately. No need to freak out once you see the link "Bills conduct interview with Joe Brady". Just a reminder. Quote
ren1701 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 They already know and have had discussions with, or they would not have pulled the trigger that fast. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 6 minutes ago, drummernut74 said: Joe Brady has been forced to make chicken salad from chicken feathers for 2+ years now and has done a pretty darn good job of it. He had JaMarr Chase and Justin Jefferson at LSU...it's not like he doesn't know what a good receiver is. A new HC isn't going suddenly help upgrade the position. That's the GMs job, however now, we are not under control of the McD blueprint and shopping list Part in parcel of this was Terry's goofy power structure where both people reported to him. Remember, McD came first and then BB. This is why the McD had to go and the front office was restructured and streamlined I disagree, I think a new offensive head coach will get what he wants because that is what organizations do in these situations, they want these guys to succeed. and the number 1 thing you are missing here about hiring an Offensive guy is that if you hire kubiak and he succeeds, Allen does not have to go through change....no one can hire your head coach who is calling plays and take him away from you.....Think andy reid with mahomes, Shanahan with Purdy/other qb's. hiring a guy like kubiak secures that side of the ball for years and brings stability to the most important player, Josh Allen. if they hire A defensive guy and he hires davis webb and he succeeds....in a year you have to do this all over. Just go make the head coach be in lock step with the rest of Allen's career here (hopefully). I am convinced you can hire one of any ten DC's and get the same bad results mcdermott got year after year. Everything needs to go through Allen like it does mahomes in KC. oh and for the record I am a joe brady fan. His commitment to the running game is everything I have wanted since day one with Allen here. Edited January 20 by MikePJ76 Quote
Lost Posted January 20 Posted January 20 35 minutes ago, Strethor said: Klint Kubiak (+125) Brian Daboll (+265) Davis Webb (+500) Joe Brady (+550) Updated odds, untill the official requests and visits happen there's just going to be speculation Please not Brady 🤞 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 20 Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Carolina DC 😂 I laughed at the Carolina dc mention as well But looking at his resume depending on who he could get as OC, I'd be interested Quote
drummernut74 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: I disagree, I think a new offensive head coach will get what he wants because that is what organizations do in these situations, they want these guys to succeed. and the number 1 thing you are missing here about hiring an Offensive guy is that if you hire kubiak and he succeeds, Allen does not have to go through change....no one can hire your head coach who is calling plays and take him away from you.....Think andy reid with mahomes, Shanahan with Purdy/other qb's. hiring a guy like kubiak secures that side of the ball for years and brings stability to the most important player, Josh Allen. if they hire A defensive guy and he hires davis webb and he succeeds....in a year you have to do this all over. Just go make the head coach be in lock step with the rest of Allen's career here (hopefully). I am convinced you can hire one of any ten DC's and get the same bad results mcdermott got year after year. Everything needs to go through Allen like it does mahomes in KC. oh and for the record I am a joe brady fan. His commitment to the running game is everything I have wanted since day one with Allen here. Bill Belichik wasn't an offensive head coach ... he was a HEAD coach. He had 3 OCs for the majority of the dynasty. Didn't seem to be a problem steamrolling everyone for 20 years Marv Levy would always say it’s not about being a great offensive head coach or a great defensive head coach … it’s just about being a great HEAD coach. Coordinators from both sides of the ball are going to get poached from good teams. That’s life in the NFL Marv was a Special Teams Coach, as was Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh, both who are SB Champion HCs Edited January 20 by drummernut74 1 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 20 Posted January 20 If you go defensive minded head coach, you need to find an OC that would be comfortable staying and continuing being the OC and not looking to move on to a head job Quote
MikePJ76 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, drummernut74 said: Bill Belichik wasn't an offensive head coach ... he was a HEAD coach. He had 3 OCs for the majority of the dynasty. Didn't seem to be a problem steamrolling everyone for 20 years so your counter to what I said is to use the greatest defensive coach in the history of the nfl as an example as why you hire a DC? Belichick also was fired in cleveland. He did a lot of winning in New England with Bill Parcells staff. I mean I am all for it, if there is a Coach on either side of the ball comprable to Bill frigging Belichick hire him now and give him a lifetime contract. Edited January 20 by MikePJ76 2 Quote
The Jokeman Posted January 20 Posted January 20 10 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Klint kubiak has more experience and is the same exact age as say, Mike Mcdonald who is now the head coach in Seattle. Kubiak has earned his shot. This is a perfect fit for him. The idea here is to lighten the load for allen and create a passing game that takes advantage of his abilities while not making him put himself in harms way over and over. The shanahan passing scheme is just what the doctor ordered. meanwhile, he can hire a defensive coordinator who can come in and focus on his defense and demand results. I would love pairing kubiak with leonhard at DC...don't think that will happen though. The organization should be about maximizing your best player/unit and that is the offense here and Allen. Making the head coach an offensive guy makes all the sense in the world. I admit I like Kubiak yet the issue I have with the Shanny system is it has roots on the WCO which is a timing based offense which doesn't always support Josh's strengths as we've seen it countless times where Josh has an open guy but instead of taking the easy through he'll run around a bit and wait for another player to come open, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I don't think anyone will completely coach it out of him as it's just how he is. 2 Quote
Psautcsk Posted January 20 Posted January 20 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I haven't heard back yet I did and they can't afford me. I ain't working for peanuts. They are nuts. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted January 20 Posted January 20 10 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Carolina DC 😂 Ejiro Evero is legit. Quote
boyst Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I hate to ruin the story for anybody but it's going to be Clint Kubiak as the number one candidate and the failsafe of Brian Daboll. Cigniti isn't leaving with all they just gave him and his staff. 2 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 41 minutes ago, drummernut74 said: Because we already have the #1 rushing attack in the league, score 30 points per game, and just need a little bit better at receiver. We don't need to uproot the whole system on that side of the ball to score a few more points. We need a more reliable and more flexible defense. I was saying it all year ... "Complementary Football" was the code word for the year to cover up the deficiencies in McD's antiquated defensive philosophy, that he was obsessed with. It was more important to him to win with HIS defense, then to build and play defense to WIN. It wasn't the offense that let us down in the biggest moments, it was the defense and it's outdated philosophy. We couldn't get over the hump, because McD couldn't get past himself, and his Ego. His whole coaching philosophy was married to his beloved defense, which always caved in the playoffs So I'd like to point out that there are two different viewpoints on the offense. The run design game and execution has been superb, but the passing game design has not matched it in quality. The question is why? One viewpoint is that we lack the receivers to execute a high quality passing game (your viewpoint "we need to get a little bit better at receiver") Another is that the passing game itself is rather simplistic. We use some pre-snap motion, but do the actual route combinations do enough to scheme receivers open or to present options if the coverage was disguised? A wild card is the question to what extent was Coach Kromer involved in the run game design, and how much of that will leave when he leaves? Edited January 20 by Beck Water 2 Quote
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