BuffaloBill Posted January 20 Posted January 20 At the end of the day - how Josh emerges from the loss, the firing of McDermott and his belief in the newly selected coach is key. I would not expect him to be outspoken right now. At the same time his silence is telling. Josh’s state of mind and ability to bounce back without “voices” in his head will be critical to his and the Bills future. I hope Josh comes out of this ok. He must be crushed. 4 1 21 Quote
Sharky7337 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I mean what can he say? He had a bad game that kinda helped the result. Not putting it all on him, plenty of years before he did his part. 9 3 Quote
Real McCoy Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) I think he knew after the game already as well as McD based off the after-game interviews. It's pivotal for Josh to step up as a leader to keep the team continuity and goals in check. I'm not sure we will hear anything from Allen until spring training. Edited January 20 by Real McClappy 3 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I hope we don't hear from him until OTA's. This is his time to go live his life with his family and soon to be newborn. Nothing Josh can say right now will help the situation in anyway.....there is a whole faction of people in the media and in the fanbase that hate the guy and blame him for everything...so whatever he says they will twist.....the other side is that no matter what he says about sean or brady or beane it will be spun negatively. no good will come from Allen weighing in right now. 9 13 3 Quote
Sweats Posted January 20 Posted January 20 If JA had any say in McD getting fired, then i'm sure he's feeling pretty guilty about it, but he'll come around that it was necessary to move forward. 2 2 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Josh 100% signed off on this. Maybe it wasn’t what he wanted but he could have issued a pardon. He didn’t. We won’t ever hear anything controversial from Allen on the subject. Pegula will do what Bisciotti did and say that it was his decision alone. That’s just not reality. When he eventually speaks on it Josh will do what makes sense. He will thank him. He will talk about how much he respects him and how much he meant to his career. He will say that he’s sorry that he couldn’t get it done for him. 4 1 2 1 Quote
Marcus Aurelius Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Giving himself time to heal perhaps. He's blaming himself for much of this 2 6 1 Quote
IsolateThis Posted January 20 Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: At the end of the day - how Josh emerges from the loss, the firing of McDermott and his belief in the newly selected coach is key. I would not expect him to be outspoken right now. At the same time his silence is telling. Josh’s state of mind and ability to bounce back without “voices” in his head will be critical to his and the Bills future. I hope Josh comes out of this ok. He must be crushed. I don't want him speaking out right now. The situation is a powder-keg and taking to media (social-media or traditional) is not his responsibility at the moment. For the good of both Sean and the team, this process needs to proceed and come to a conclusion. After which Josh, I'm sure, would want to say positive things about Sean, and whoever the new HC and staff members are.... I'm on board with his silence for now. 3 2 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) silence is consent Burrow was saying two weeks before the season ended that he wanted Zach Taylor back, which must have been music to Mike Brown's ears. But the point remains. If Allen was out there publicly saying he wanted McDermott back over the last few weeks it would have made it very hard to fire him. Also, if Allen made it clear behind the scenes that he was 100% behind McDermott and wanted him to continue as HC and would be very upset if he was let go then it would not have happened. The more I think of it the more I come to the conclusion that a run first, "everyone eats" bargain bin WR room offense was exactly what McDermott wanted, which Pegula and Beane would know. So when he suddenly says the roster isn't good enough it's just laying the groundwork for an excuse for losing. Edited January 20 by TheFunPolice 6 6 1 1 Quote
Lagoon Blues Posted January 20 Posted January 20 8 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: At the end of the day - how Josh emerges from the loss, the firing of McDermott and his belief in the newly selected coach is key. I would not expect him to be outspoken right now. At the same time his silence is telling. Josh’s state of mind and ability to bounce back without “voices” in his head will be critical to his and the Bills future. I hope Josh comes out of this ok. He must be crushed. I have had this exact conversation with multiple people lately. The majority are not Bills fans and they all expressed the same thoughts even from the outside looking at this. The guy was clearly broken. It can and does happen to most people at some point but the public aspect of his life clearly adds another layer. I don't know a single person Bills fan or not that is not really feeling for him. 1 Quote
harryS Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Josh should stay quiet to hide his role. "Beane is a pimp. He never could've outfought Sean-tino. It wasn't until today that I realized it was Josh-tini all along." 1 3 3 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) I have been done with this defense since 2022. If you think this wasn’t weighing on Allen. It’s probably taking every ounce of strength he has every week to not lose his *****. We just never, ever made big stops. It was a turnover or they had no chance. How many years was Allen supposed to waste? Look at the guys face after he sat on the bench up 27-23. It’s 4 points. Not a FG. You can’t stop Bo Bix! After all that work to get back? The guy was like WTF can they handle? And then said screw it, I’ll go down with only 55 seconds and score again. Only to allow them to score from their own 20 again in OT Edited January 20 by Brianmoorman4jesus 8 3 1 4 Quote
Sweats Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Here's the thing and i've been involved with my bosses getting fired before.........some might even say that i am the main reason for my bosses getting fired, but that's a story for another day. Th owner will come to me beforehand in a private meeting and tell me that ole Bob is getting let go. I have two choices in that instance.......1) i tell the owner that i feel it's a good move to let ole Bob go...........2) i tell the owner that it's a really bad idea to let ole Bob go. Usually what i tell the owner in either of those two scenarios is usually the direction the owner will take as he values my opinion, so i have the say on whether ole Bob gets let go or stays. I believe that JA was probably taken into a closed door meeting with Beane and Pegs, told that McD was being let go and JA had two choices in that instance.......JA chose change, JA chose the future, JA chose progression. 1 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 20 Posted January 20 13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Josh 100% signed off on this. Maybe it wasn’t what he wanted but he could have issued a pardon. He didn’t. We won’t ever hear anything controversial from Allen on the subject. Pegula will do what Bisciotti did and say that it was his decision alone. That’s just not reality. When he eventually speaks on it Josh will do what makes sense. He will thank him. He will talk about how much he respects him and how much he meant to his career. He will say that he’s sorry that he couldn’t get it done for him. Explain. I'm not sure I'm buying he signed off on this. 1 1 Quote
henry jones Posted January 20 Posted January 20 With all that has happened since the Donkey game, JA is the one I'm most concerned about. Will he continue to hear the playoff "voices" in his head for the rest of his career? They need to find an OC that can scheme guys open. I mean, it can be done. They can't rely on Josh to be superman in the playoffs because it obviously hasn't worked. I'm just afraid that his brain may be broken after 7 straight crushing playoff losses. 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted January 20 Posted January 20 17 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Would you have talked to Josh before the firing? 100%. You don’t blindside your franchise with something like that. That doesn’t mean Josh gets to make any decision, but he absolutely gets a heads up. Among other things, it allows him to not be present during the media frenzy. 2 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20 Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Explain. I'm not sure I'm buying he signed off on this. In 2026, you don’t make this change without the okay from a superstar. Josh, and Lamar for that matter, had to okay a coach being fired. When I was in the NBA we had multiple coaches (and a GM) fired at the star’s request. It has actually happened there again since I’ve been gone. Josh Allen is the most powerful person in that organization outside of Pegula. He has more power than Beane, Guelli, McDermott,etc.. Maybe he did not ask for McDermott to go. Maybe he did? Either way, if he said, “I want him here” he would be here. That’s reality. There are a group of players in each sport that have that type of power. Josh is one. Lamar is one. Mahomes is one. Jokic is one. Giannis is one. Aaron Judge is one. Ohtani is one. You get the point. Teams cannot risk alienating those guys and they don’t. They bring them under the tent and get their buy in. He had to okay the hit. They will protect his image publicly as Bisciotti did. Josh will be involved in the hiring of the next guy. He won’t make the decision but he will be able to say no if he absolutely doesn’t want someone. I don’t expect that. What will be interesting is if he lobbies for Daboll or Brady or more likely, Davis Webb. That becomes a slippery slope. If Josh wants Webb and the others want Flores, for example, what happens? They’ll have to get him on board or appease him. More likely Josh will get on board because that’s how he is wired. 5 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 15 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I have been done with this defense since 2022. If you think this wasn’t weighing on Allen. It’s probably taking every ounce of strength he has every week to not lose his *****. We just never, ever made big stops. It was a turnover or they had no chance. How many years was Allen supposed to waste? Look at the guys face after he sat on the bench up 27-23. It’s 4 points. Not a FG. You can’t stop Bo Bix! After all that work to get back? The guy was like WTF can they handle? And then said screw it, I’ll go down with only 55 seconds and score gain. Only to allow them to score from their own 20 again in OT Boom - perfect buddy. And you can repeat this for years prior vs KC. 2 1 Quote
bmur66 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) The guy was beat to hell and is should healing on a yacht somewhere tropical for a couple weeks. Did anyone notice how bruised he was. One tough sob. 💪 Edited January 20 by bmur66 3 Quote
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