If given the choice between firing McD or running back the same coaching staff, which do you choose

[JP51]

7 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I didn't want to mess with your poll so I just tweaked the title so it matched the question.

Thank you!!!!!!! I appreciate you! 

[ColoradoBills]

Looking at it from Terry Pegula's view.

Something had to change.  

Blowing the whole thing up would have been crazy.

 

He decided what he did.  I'm sure he didn't like to do it, but he had to.

 

I don't have enough inside info to know what exactly was going on the last 2 years at OBD.

Therefore, I will go along with Terry's choices.

[JP51]

6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

Looking at it from Terry Pegula's view.

Something had to change.  

Blowing the whole thing up would have been crazy.

 

He decided what he did.  I'm sure he didn't like to do it, but he had to.

 

I don't have enough inside info to know what exactly was going on the last 2 years at OBD.

Therefore, I will go along with Terry's choices.

I think we are left with little choice but to your point... I do think there was some fear in going it alone with a full blow up... he did not have a great track record Pre Beane and McD as well as the Sabres...  so... I get it from that perspective. 

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, JP51 said:

I think we are left with little choice but to your point... I do think there was some fear in going it alone with a full blow up... he did not have a great track record Pre Beane and McD as well as the Sabres...  so... I get it from that perspective. 

 

He did the hockey stuff on his own.  The Bills were Kim and him.  After her illness (which I've brought up but I don't think enough fans

factor in) he has given the reigns over in hockey and this move sets him up to do the same on the football side.

 

Kim was becoming a voice not only on Bills football decisions but in the owner's world.  I'm sure Terry was very happy and proud to see that.

Then the unthinkable happened to him and his priorities changed.

He let Beane and McDermott alone and without Kim it seems those 2 started to divert in their plans.

 

I'm not saying he won't be involved at all, but he has other things more important in his life that he no doubt wants to spend his time on.

[JP51]

53 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

He did the hockey stuff on his own.  The Bills were Kim and him.  After her illness (which I've brought up but I don't think enough fans

factor in) he has given the reigns over in hockey and this move sets him up to do the same on the football side.

 

Kim was becoming a voice not only on Bills football decisions but in the owner's world.  I'm sure Terry was very happy and proud to see that.

Then the unthinkable happened to him and his priorities changed.

He let Beane and McDermott alone and without Kim it seems those 2 started to divert in their plans.

 

I'm not saying he won't be involved at all, but he has other things more important in his life that he no doubt wants to spend his time on.

Another poster mentioned Kim as well... I dont disagree here at all 

[Jalan81]

3 hours ago, IsolateThis said:

I'm in the same boat - blame clearly should be shared, but unfortunately one was axed while the other promoted. What I struggle with is - would they have been better to fire both and hire BOTH a new GM and coach, or just one. I'm thinking it is easier and less disruptive to only have a search for a new HC, and if you had to fire one, it wouldn't really work to look for another GM that isn't able to install their own choice for HC.... Difficult no matter what....

The draft will be very interesting this year without McDermotts wants and needs. This will be a big tell on where the problem was honestly. 

[Strethor]

My personal opinion would be to align Josh with an OC HC that he can depend on for the rest of his career. Would we take some lumps with this strategy vs continuing status quo, yes. In fact the heat that Bean is receiving for getting promoted is warranted - we need to focus on who's best to revive this roster and prolong the window as the roster turnover happens. The PR and logic coming out of OBD is not making sense and fans are calling it out rightfully so, but this change will be better than running it back. They squeezed as much out of this roster as they could. Return on Investment

Edited January 20 by Strethor

[JP51]

39 minutes ago, Jalan81 said:

The draft will be very interesting this year without McDermotts wants and needs. This will be a big tell on where the problem was honestly. 

I feel like this will tell a tale... maybe not the whole thing... but it might shed some light for sure.

[colin]

5 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

A whole new fresh start.

 

But billionaires are careful about who handles their money, Beane handles money and business decisions coaches do not deal with.

 

I imagine beane is on a short leash.  Hire the wrong guy and have allen regress and in two years they will all be out.

 

best case scenario, they hire a young offensive coach, Klint kubiak, he builds a good staff and puts together a program that gets them over the hump.....then we can talk about that and beane can fade into the background.  

 

if terry fired them both, who the hell would install a new staff and scout and sign players and the draft and all of that?

 

im excited to see who our new dc is going to be.  maybe beane should extend taron and bernard again so they can slam into gaps and almost tackle runners at a high effort high character great young man level!

[Doc Brown]

I would've still fired him even if the way they did it was cold/clumsy but I guarantee you this poll would look a lot different if you polled all Bills fans that aren't as football obsessed like the people on this board. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

6 hours ago, Sweats said:

Here's the thing......

 

We let McD go.......if the team gets better moving forward and progresses, well then maybe McD was the problem. If the team gets steadily worse, well then maybe Beane was the problem and he will be exposed.

 

It's a win-win for Bills fans right across the board.

This is not a win for fans. Who cares if Beane gets fired in a few years. That is a few more years of Allen's prime wasted away. 

Edited January 20 by Billsfanatic8989

[transient]

I was not on the fire McDermott bus after 13s, and the end of the 2022-23 season was such an aberration that I gave him a pass after they let Frazier go, but after watching Allen grind out offense to control the clock against KC while AJ Klein ran 5 yards behind Travis Kelce for a half with Dorian Williams standing on the sideline I grabbed that bus at the next stop. They were beat up, yes, but that was like waving a white flag on defense. And oddly enough, I think that game is what shaped the direction of McDermott's "complementary football" approach for the next two seasons, make the offense slow and plodding and the defense will have fewer opportunities in any given game to blow it. I don't think Beane deserved a promotion, and if they swept him out the door with McDermott I wouldn't have shed a tear, but after the Denver game I was having a hard time convincing myself that I could watch another season of Allen's career wasted with McDermott as coach.

[JP51]

4 hours ago, colin said:

 

if terry fired them both, who the hell would install a new staff and scout and sign players and the draft and all of that?

 

im excited to see who our new dc is going to be.  maybe beane should extend taron and bernard again so they can slam into gaps and almost tackle runners at a high effort high character great young man level!

I don't disagree here

[GASabresIUFan]

Honestly if you fire McD you fire Beane also.  

[JP51]

13 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Honestly if you fire McD you fire Beane also.  

I woulda started over... but I kinda get Pegula not wanting to steer the ship... for right or wrong...