bmur66 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 If the Bills stayed reasonably healthy I think they had the horses to get the job done. Especially on defense. Yes they were lacking a go to wideout but they found other ways. 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Low Positive said: Don't underestimate the luck portion of that. They had major injury luck all year. They played the Bengals the week before Burrow came back and got them without Chase. They just played the Texans without their only offensive weapon and will now get the Broncos with a backup QB. And that's just off the top of my head. They still showed up and played and beat the lesser team. Outside of a slow start which can be attributed to a new coach, once they got rolling, the Pats showed up and beat every team they should have. 42-13, 25-19, 35-13, 32-13, 27-14, 42-10, 38-10... so. many. blowouts. They NEVER showed up stale, they NEVER allowed a lesser team to hang around. They NEVER played down to their opponent. The McDermott-lead Bills did play down almost every single week. The McDermott-lead Bills dropped horrible games against the Falcons and Dolphins. 4 Quote
Real McCoy Posted January 20 Posted January 20 It's almost like people want Pegula and Beane to tarnish McD's reputation via social media at this phase. Why? Most Bills fans and educated NFL fans know exactly why McD was let go already. I'm not up for an owner and GM dragging a standup guy through the mud. The biggest Screw up was not doing it after 13s or the 2023 season. 2 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted January 20 Posted January 20 35 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I mean, if McD was insisting this roster wasn’t good enough, he was wrong. This team was a play away from playing the Pats to go to the Super Bowl, who we beat this season. The team is deficient somewhere.. it’s not like the Bills lost because they were undisciplined, aligned wrong, or got undisciplined penalties in abundance.. The Bills were sloppy holding onto the ball on O, so many here just want to blame the D for everything but in almost every game the Bills lost this year it was when they lost the turnover battle.. Pats 3-1, Atlanta 2-0, Texans 3-0, Miami 3-2, Eagles 1-0, Denver 5-1. Now I don’t know how a coach fixes that when a good portion is from your MVP QB.. but the Bills would have been unstoppable if they hadn’t constantly stopped themselves combined in all their losses they had a -13 turnover ratio.. that’s INSANE! That’s what needs be fixed in the losses. Will a new coach fix that? 1 Quote
IYKYK Posted January 20 Posted January 20 45 minutes ago, SCBills said: Did they feel this way because they think it’s true or because they gave McDermott the roster he asked for? Did McD want a DE & DT in FA? He got Bosa and Ogunjobi. Also Hoecht. Did he wants extensions for all his D guys? Benford, Rousseau, Bernard? He got them. Did he want Hairston, Sanders, Jackson and Walker for our first 4 picks including multiple trade ups? Same HC who was given Poona Ford and Tim Settle, then had us thinking they were bums. If he was saddled with this roster against his will or without much input, sure. McD is right and Beane/Pegula are shockingly out of touch. If he asked for this roster then I could see how this is disingenuous framing. If he was complaining about this roster five weeks ago, I seriously doubt he had as much input on who to sign, draft or even extend. It sounds like he knew this roster was severely lacking. Quote
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I can't imagine HC candidates not being concerned about this. This meeting is the first thing they should ask about when they interview. 2 Quote
UKBillFan Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Could Pegula and Beane have been unhappy with McDermott's assessment because it was built to his requirements? 4 1 Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted January 20 Posted January 20 31 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: The blatant attempted gaslighting is old and insulting. Bills fans are a smart bunch. We know BS when we see it This is a joke right? The WR corp alone should have Beane fired I'm specifically talking about the defense. Starting secondary alone wins this game on Saturday Quote
GolfandBills Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Overall the roster isn’t as bad as some people make it out to be. Most teams have a couple positions they’d like to be better at or missed in free agents/draft picks. It’s definitely not perfect but it was pretty solid. 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 48 minutes ago, ChasBB said: Then my question is why is a meeting taking place on what is needed to win a Super Bowl during Week 15 (this would have been about 5 weeks ago) of the season, well after the trade deadline and any meaningful opportunity to address roster concerns? Coincides when we lost the division. As the season played out: Discussions about Keon being inactive. The WR room as we approached the playoffs. Is Josh Palmer a real person? Who is actually calling the defense? The Slay situation. They meet all the time I’m thinking something happened at this one that was like last straw maybe. Edited January 20 by Big Blitz 2 Quote
dancing_joker Posted January 20 Posted January 20 McDermott prob wanted more safeties and d-line for his defensive scheme haha. In all seriousness, without context…we have no idea what McDermott said. Don’t assume his opinion is the same as yours Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 20 Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: The team is deficient somewhere.. it’s not like the Bills lost because they were undisciplined, aligned wrong, or got undisciplined penalties in abundance.. The Bills were sloppy holding onto the ball on O, so many here just want to blame the D for everything but in almost every game the Bills lost this year it was when they lost the turnover battle.. Pats 3-1, Atlanta 2-0, Texans 3-0, Miami 3-2, Eagles 1-0, Denver 5-1. Now I don’t know how a coach fixes that when a good portion is from your MVP QB.. but the Bills would have been unstoppable if they hadn’t constantly stopped themselves combined in all their losses they had a -13 turnover ratio.. that’s INSANE! That’s what needs be fixed in the losses. Will a new coach fix that? Is the Pats roster perfect? Has Vrabel been tell Kraft that they’re not good enough to win the Super Bowl this season? I doubt it. If McD truly believed the Bills didn’t have a good enough roster to win the Super Bowl, he was wrong. They were a play away from a rematch with the Pats to get there, and at worst would have been a small underdog against either the Rams or Seahawks. 2 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 20 Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Could Pegula and Beane have been unhappy with McDermott's assessment because it was built to his requirements? This is what I think. But this team is severely lacking WR health Quote
Low Positive Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: They still showed up and played and beat the lesser team. Outside of a slow start which can be attributed to a new coach, once they got rolling, the Pats showed up and beat every team they should have. 42-13, 25-19, 35-13, 32-13, 27-14, 42-10, 38-10... so. many. blowouts. They NEVER showed up stale, they NEVER allowed a lesser team to hang around. They NEVER played down to their opponent. The McDermott-lead Bills did play down almost every single week. The McDermott-lead Bills dropped horrible games against the Falcons and Dolphins. I don't disagree with this at all. I was a long-time supporter of McDermott because of a fear of a return to the bad days, but I knew a coaching change had to happen when I heard them say that the Fins "wanted it more." HOW THE F CAN THEY WANT IT MORE!!!!!!!!!! That's coaching. McDermott didn't prepare his team after an emotional win over KC. That game, and the Atlanta game. Still. 3 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I can't imagine HC candidates not being concerned about this. This meeting is the first thing they should ask about when they interview. so the first thing you want to ask in a job interview is what happened in the meeting where the previous person was let go? you being serious? 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: so the first thing you want to ask in a job interview is what happened in the meeting where the previous person was let go? you being serious? Fans are all-time delusional today. 2 1 Quote
DaggersEOD Posted January 20 Posted January 20 24 minutes ago, ganesh said: There is no drought with Josh Allen at helm. I was there too before they decided to retain / promote Mr. bean. Now I’m seeing an arrogant ego in charge that may decide to die on the hill of being right and refusing to support JA with an arsenal of weapons. Maybe not 7-9 drought but I can see a substantial drop in field performance / success where we still never get to the big game. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 20 Posted January 20 10 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: McDermott, Beane and Pegula have a meeting together. McDermott is fired. The following day this news comes out. So, unless someone had a wire tap, this news was let out by somebody. Any guesses who? I’m not saying that the meeting didn’t happen and I’m not saying it absolutely went down any different than was described. What I am saying is that this has to be a biased take. Obviously McD's agent 1 Quote
DaggersEOD Posted January 20 Posted January 20 48 minutes ago, Arkansasrifle said: I don’t with new stadium That sounds good, if we assume of course that the NFL has a script where new stadiums are rewarded. Not sure if I like that premise any better. Quote
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 20 Posted January 20 For me the failures are a shared responsibility between Beane and McDermott and Sean was the one that took the hit. Not having any firsthand knowledge of the decision process or the personal dynamics, on things such as tie breaking a split decision on a specific signing or draft selection, its hard to know what went on between the two and the rest of the staff. If there was a lot of friction they both kept it quiet and in-house. This ESPN story is a pretty good recap and sites both as complicit in the Bills inability to finish. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47660090/2026-nfl-offseason-buffalo-bills-fire-sean-mcdermott-coach-allen-beane-playoff-loss 1 Quote
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