Pegula and Beane believes the roster wasn't the problem - Link

[appoo]

Just now, Avisan said:

He literally blitzed on the Dane Jackson TD

Because no way he was gonna trust Dane Jackson sit in coverage for extended time.  Damned if you do, damned if you don't.  

 

All of this goes back to Beane not bothering to talk to the agent before picking up Slay and waiving Ingram.  Hairston got hurt because the bills only had 3 corners to play against the NYJ

[Avisan]

2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

I couldn't disagree more. In a vacuum it's not a bad playcall, but the context makes it terrible.

 

In the situation where you have to trust that your pressure gets home AND Dane Jackson holds up 1v1. That's a big gamble. Of all the times to get away from the safe zone, keep everything ahead of you type-plays he chose about the worst time to do it. 

 

No-- you're trusting that your pressure gets home.  Dane Jackson has the experience and technique to keep up for 2-2.5 seconds.  He lacks the talent to hold up beyond that.

 

You cannot simultaneously bash McDermott for not making a stop with safe zones and bash him for dialing up pressure to force a rushed throw, which is exactly what's going on.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, Avisan said:

He literally blitzed on the Dane Jackson TD

 

So he made ALL the wrong choices. More reason McD is gone.

[fridge]

Confirmation bias is very, very real. Right now we have people that have chosen to take a side. Even though some are pretending their preference was Beane AND McDermott, I think it's clear most are upset that McDermott was fired because of attachment issues.

Never mind the nine years of the most incomprehensible losses. Never mind the defense crumbling in every single one of our playoff loses. Never mind that bizarre clock management or the poor challenges, or the insistence of a bend but don't break defense.

No, ignore all of the very obvious issues this team had, and focus exclusively on the narrative (that's all it is, honestly) that the GM was somehow conspiring against our coach and building a terrible roster. A roster, mind you, that Josh quite easily dragged to a 12 win season. 

This fan base has lost its mind.

[appoo]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We did lose the game.

 

And no, I and plenty of others, were screaming it in real time Saturday. KEEP BLITZING. Keep bringing pressure on the kid.

 

I agree blitzing shouldnt be a game plan. But we had nothing else, and it was working. It's Bo Nix, not Mahomes.

And the bills would have lost rather easily if McDermott didn't vary his calls. The defense is the only reason the Bills even had a shot at winning that game

[Einstein]

13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Cos Beane was thinking the 2026 pick might be him. The chances the 2027 would be he thought were probably less at the time. 

 

Ahhh. Good point.

[appoo]

Just now, fridge said:

Confirmation bias is very, very real. Right now we have people that have chosen to take a side. Even though some are pretending their preference was Beane AND McDermott, I think it's clear most are upset that McDermott was fired because of attachment issues.

Never mind the nine years of the most incomprehensible losses. Never mind the defense crumbling in every single one of our playoff loses. Never mind that bizarre clock management or the poor challenges, or the insistence of a bend but don't break defense.

No, ignore all of the very obvious issues this team had, and focus exclusively on the narrative (that's all it is, honestly) that the GM was somehow conspiring against our coach and building a terrible roster. A roster, mind you, that Josh quite easily dragged to a 12 win season. 

This fan base has lost its mind.

***** the attachment issues, the roster is a problem and I've been saying that for 2 years now

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

To me ,I'll go to my grave thinking if we had a gotten a real playmaker at the trade deadline we're not having this discussion. We probably end up in this Super Bowl. The margin of error created for Josh was such that he couldn't play great 90% of the the time. It was due to take the wrong turn sometime. Mcdermott was so pissed after the game because they were so close and the refs just injected themselves at our expense.

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

He's also directly giving Beane responsibility for the new coach.  I am hoping that Beane is also on a shortened leash, like he gets the coach he wants and has two or years or so to get us over the hump.

id have to imagine that’s at least loosely the case and then one last bite at the apple with Josh if we need to clear one more time 

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, fridge said:

Confirmation bias is very, very real. Right now we have people that have chosen to take a side. Even though some are pretending their preference was Beane AND McDermott, I think it's clear most are upset that McDermott was fired because of attachment issues.

Never mind the nine years of the most incomprehensible losses. Never mind the defense crumbling in every single one of our playoff loses. Never mind that bizarre clock management or the poor challenges, or the insistence of a bend but don't break defense.

No, ignore all of the very obvious issues this team had, and focus exclusively on the narrative (that's all it is, honestly) that the GM was somehow conspiring against our coach and building a terrible roster. A roster, mind you, that Josh quite easily dragged to a 12 win season. 

This fan base has lost its mind.

 

But, but, but...  the press release had a TYPO!! 

[fridge]

Just now, appoo said:

***** the attachment issues, the roster is a problem and I've been saying that for 2 years now

If the roster has issues, you mean specifically the weak defensive players that Beane was forced to acquire to fit our tiny Nickel defense?

Surely you don't mean the roster of our offense that scored 30 points on the road against the 1 seed, a top defense coming off a bye week.

[appoo]

I don't neccesarily think McDermott is THE coach, but what IS bothering me about all this is how this crap went down, and the fact that Beane got promoted. 

 

He better upgrade his crap aftet the *****ery he's pulling here

[Avisan]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

So he made ALL the wrong choices. More reason McD is gone.

This is just absurd.  You cannot simultaneously complain about failing to make stops due to safe zone play and failing to make stops due to aggressive blitzing from a philosophical standpoint.  Outcome of a play does not determine the quality of a playcall from a schematic standpoint.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, appoo said:

***** the attachment issues, the roster is a problem and I've been saying that for 2 years now

 

The Offense is pretty much set outside of 2 WRs.

 

The Defense IS a complete mess of low-level talent and guys who are too small to play in the NFL... because that is what McD asked for.

 

Let's see how Beane rebuilds that defense with the new coach and scheme.

[Not at the table Karlos]

Did Pegula not learn from the last 5 years with Kevyn Adams 

[Einstein's Dog]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think it is very fair to assume the specifics were not "Josh Allen and James Cook suck guys". Come off it. The snippets we have he liked a couple of the receivers Beane didn't land at the trade deadline. Far more likely it was that. 

There also could be the short term vs long term problem.  McDermott may have known it was a SB or bust situation and as such would have been pushing harder for the short term solution (Meyers), than Beane who may have deemed the deal overpriced.

 

Now Beane can get more value for a more talented, longer term solution WR (Aiyuk/M Evans/J Jennings/JSN/MHJ/BTJ).  If so, we can see why McD was frustrated.

[Augie]

13 minutes ago, alg said:

No, but not everything is about WRs.

When taken as a whole, our offense puts up 30 almost every playoff game, and lose to 33.

Were we desperate for better WRs because we had to score 40?

 

Gee, that doesn’t sound like a roster loaded with talent. EVERYBODY, including the opponents, knew we had zero deep threat until we got a guy (Cooks) off the scrap heap late, and he was only available because he’s old and he can’t catch. It is not 1/11th of the team, it changes how teams must defend us. That was Beane’s position to fill, and McD got fired because he didn’t, year after year. That’s the bottom line. 

[pennstate10]

1 hour ago, DaggersEOD said:

Man I’m hating it but I’m feeling a new drought coming on. This sucks. 

Gotta say I’m feeling the same thing. 
I’ve been a Bills fan for >50 years. As a fan, you often get a sense of rhythm, whether a team or organization has peaked, is heading uphil, or downhill. This years version of the Bills felt to me a bit like a pause, that the coaching staff was doing more with less, and that even losses were close, due to injuries or bad luck, but not “choking” (although, in truth, you could say Josh critical misfires against Eagles and Broncos were chokes). But not by bad coaching decisions in clutch moments.  
 

I think Bills needed, and still need, better players. Just look at Bills representation in any list of best players, whether it’s nfl top 100, all pro, or pro bowl. Bills representation is worse than average. The current cap situation is not rosy. I’m less optimistic about our future than I was on Sunday. 
 

Last comment. This decision makes it look like Beane was “the hand” whispering to the king. 

[GoBills808]

there's a lot of space between believing the roster isn't a problem and being annoyed at your HC complaining about why he can't win the SB w this team

[appoo]

Just now, fridge said:

If the roster has issues, you mean specifically the weak defensive players that Beane was forced to acquire to fit our tiny Nickel defense?

Surely you don't mean the roster of our offense that scored 30 points on the road against the 1 seed, a top defense coming off a bye week.

The Nickel personell is the most common foundation for the NFL.  

 

And honestly I think it was mostly a good roster. After all the Bills were the 2nd winning franchise in the NFL the last 5-6 years. This was a VERY good team.  

 

But starting in 2024, it stopped being a Super Bowl roster, and was clearly behind a few others in the AFC.