Pegula and Beane believes the roster wasn't the problem - Link

[Don Otreply]

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[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

...............if the roster was good enough to go to the SB, they would be in the SB

 

Not when you stop blitzing on 3rd and 11 and give them the 1st down. Multiple times.

Not when your backup CB goes in and you leave him on an island with no help over the top.

Not when you continue to call for your DEs to crash inside and lose the play.

[GunnerBill]

32 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Do you know his assessment. Maybe he identified Cook and Allen as not doing enough.  He may have said Shaq Thompson is not adequate, we need more Benards.  

 

I mean if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.....

[Einstein's Dog]

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

They all have holes. Bengals have the WRS we covet, but no OL. Chiefs obviously have a ton of holes with their performance this year. Ravens... lol.

 

Go down the list.

 

We're missing 2 good WRs on Offense. That's it.

 

It seems worse because dummy Beane popped off on WGR and set himself up. But we arent that bad off.

 

We DO need to rebuild the entire Defense, even if McD stayed. And that's part of the problem. And why he is gone.

Please no, to the D rebuild.  My god, we just did that last season.

 

We need WRs!!  And with these new talented WRs we need coaches who go back to using them.  If you may recall from years past Josh Allen has one of the best arms (EVER) for 25-30 yard ropes down the field.  We don't need YAC, we need sure handed, good route running WRs, that can catch the 25-30 yard lasers.

 

The silver lining from moving on from the class act McDermott is that the offensive philosophy and offensive talent acquisition can change.  This is what gives the appeal to DaBoll, who was the architect of some of Josh's glory years.  He along w Beane would be prioritizing WRs- B Aiyuk or M Evans along with a trade for JSN, MHJ, or BTJ and bombs away!

[NoSaint]

9 minutes ago, alg said:

Everyone is stuck on the promotion. In this case it means very little. Beane was already head football operations guy. All this promotion did was make it clear he will hire the new coach, and that coach will report to him.

 

Standard stuff. Pegula just removed himself from the drama.

Yea anyone hung on the promotion is missing that it’s simply saying that he’s staying and we are confirming a traditional org chart 

 

It’s not a new job, and I suspect it’s basically nothing financially. It’s just giving the incoming coach a clear vision of the organization in this transition.

[GunnerBill]

29 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I believe you. But boy does that sound so ridiculous. Why do these GM’s get so upright about the year of the 1st rounder. 

 

Cos Beane was thinking the 2026 pick might be him. The chances the 2027 would be he thought were probably less at the time. 

[alg]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

So, are you on record as being happy with our WR room? Was that a championship caliber group of talent? 

No, but not everything is about WRs.

When taken as a whole, our offense puts up 30 almost every playoff game, and lose to 33.

Were we desperate for better WRs because we had to score 40?

[In Summary]

Sorry, but Beane was the GM and he owns the roster until something concrete comes out confirming otherwise. 

[Sweats]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Not when you stop blitzing on 3rd and 11 and give them the 1st down. Multiple times.

Not when your backup CB goes in and you leave him on an island with no help over the top.

Not when you continue to call for your DEs to crash inside and lose the play.

 

 

 

 

 

So..........you're saying our roster was good enough to get to the SB then and it was piss poor coaching "only" that held the team back?

[appoo]

1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

I mean, if McD was insisting this roster wasn’t good enough, he was wrong.  This team was a play away from playing the Pats to go to the Super Bowl, who we beat this season.

Thats a testament to coaching and Josh Allen. 

 

How many of us where complaining about the flaws of this roster for 2 years now?

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

the WRs talked about it this year. "No block, no rock". That comes from McD. That's why we prioritize guys like Coleman and Shavers over BTJ and Worthy.

Giving McDermott and Brady a top tier WR would be a waste of resources.  We all saw what happened to Diggs as soon as the keys to the offense were handed to Brady.  It would be like giving a standard transmission Ferrari to someone whose foot has never touched a clutch pedal.  

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Not taking a kneel down before halftime is the one thing that McDermott cannot complain about to Beane & Pegula. That play call could very well have sealed McDermott's fate. In a way, those 3 points were the difference in the game, despite the refs screwing us.

 

Agree was a stupid decision. Followed by another stupid one by Josh. 

[SectionC3]

8 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Not taking a kneel down before halftime is the one thing that McDermott cannot complain about to Beane & Pegula. That play call could very well have sealed McDermott's fate. In a way, those 3 points were the difference in the game, despite the refs screwing us.

That one's on Josh.  All day long. 

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

 

I think Beane tried to get the players McD wanted and he still could not improve the D to not give up 30 points in a playoff game were we get eliminated. I believe Pegula being in all the draft meetings and the war room saw McD asking for this and that and he still says we lack talent.

The only consistent part of our D not being able to close the deal in the playoffs is McD


McD strength was supposedly his D mind but look at how many times we gave up 30+ points in the playoffs that Allen and the O had to overcome

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/playoffs.htm

 

I'm with you on this.

 

McDermott learned under coaches like Jim Johnson & John Fox. Was there ever a time that anyone thought that our defense ever looked like a defense that was run by either of those coaches?

[Avisan]

3 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Probably shouldn't be putting him on an island then. That's a coaching blunder. 

 

I don't care if you have to take a time out to figure out what to do, you already got burned putting in a 5th string safety earlier in the game.

 

That's two gimme TDs they got off of poor situational coaching. 

The Bills brought 6 to force a rushed throw.  Rush didn't succeed in generating pressure.  That isn't a bad play call, it's a bad outcome.

 

On the Savage touchdown, he overbit on a flag that ended up being a post.  Also not left on an island, the playcall should have worked defensively.  The player made a critical error.  It's very difficult to manufacture situations where a Safety is guaranteed to have additional help underneath.

 

We're simultaneously bashing McDermott for running a man blitz call and a coverage zone call with third-stringers on the field.  You're upset at the poor play outcomes, I get that, we all are-- that doesn't make them bad playcalls.  You cannot call a "safe" NFL defensive play that doesn't assume competent play from your players.

[Rubes]

14 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

Would have been nice to have Ingram out there.  Another Beane error in a year full of them.

 

Would have been even better to have Max out there. Should we blame Beane for that?

 

[appoo]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Not when you stop blitzing on 3rd and 11 and give them the 1st down. Multiple times.

Not when your backup CB goes in and you leave him on an island with no help over the top.

Not when you continue to call for your DEs to crash inside and lose the play.

 

McDermott was forced into varying calls and schemes drive to drive, because the Bills didn't have the talent to dictate from Defense. They had to rely upon tricking the OC and QB, basically out thinking them. 

 

Hence you occasionally do things like blitz on 3rd and long because you don't have the pass rushers to not to, and you want to simulate pressure sometimes, and then sometimes yiou actually have to blitz to make the simulation effective. 

 

There's no way McDermott wanted to be in that position

 

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

 

So..........you're saying our roster was good enough to get to the SB then and it was piss poor coaching "only" that held the team back?

 

Compared to the Patriots half a roster that is going to the Super Bowl. Yes.

 

Better coaching could have taken this team to the Super Bowl this year. Warts and all.

 

It was largely the same roster that went to the AFC Champ the previous year. It isnt as bad as fans make it out to be. We're just too deep on it.

Edited January 20 by DrDawkinstein

[appoo]

Just now, Rubes said:

 

Would have been even better to have Max out there. Should we blame Beane for that?

 

Yes. 

[Avisan]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree was a stupid decision. Followed by another stupid one by Josh. 

Taking a shot or two downfield isn't a stupid coaching decision.  If the play isn't there, chuck it away or go down.