Pegula and Beane believes the roster wasn't the problem - Link

[Psautcsk]

3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

this is a great point.  could be media BS 

It should have been after the Pats loss. That is when the season turned big time. I don't think the Bills took the Pats seriously and were complacent and it  came back to bite them. I think Mack Hollins saw the writing on the wall and that's why he went to the Pats. I don't think him leaving was solely about money.

[alg]

47 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Keeping and promoting are two different things.  I think that's part of the reason there's angst here.  It's one thing to reallocate responsibilities.  It's another to affirmatively promote.  

Everyone is stuck on the promotion. In this case it means very little. Beane was already head football operations guy. All this promotion did was make it clear he will hire the new coach, and that coach will report to him.

 

Standard stuff. Pegula just removed himself from the drama.

[LifeLongBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yeah.  Dane Jackson getting scorched wasn't a problem. 

dane Jackson was ill prepared to be on the field 

[Krakensabres]

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Any team down to their 4th string corner is going to be a liability.  But you have to protect that liability, not leave them on an island.

This is where I landed after thinking about these 2 key plays in the game - there was a coaching flaw leaving Savagd and Jackson in those 1:1 positions when everyone knew the ball was going there after injuries 

[zow2]

I think after the Denver game i can definitively say we are a better team than them, which means we have a better roster.  Some poor decisions, turnovers and missed open throws...and a 50/50 ref call did us in.  We know we are at least as good as New England.  Maybe not better but as good... and Houstons D was better but our Offense and overall team is as good if not better.  So yeah, the roster was good enough to have a Super Bowl appearance,, and they failed.

Edited January 20 by zow2

[DrDawkinstein]

55 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Listening to Locked On Bills Squad and omg… Joe Marino is losing his mind about Brandon Beane & Pegula. 

 

No offense to Joe, but he is an expert at literally NOTHING. He's just one of us with a bigger platform to spout opinions.

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 minute ago, alg said:

Everyone is stuck on the promotion. In this case it means very little. Beane was already head football operations guy. All this promotion did was make it clear he will hire the new coach, and that coach will report to him.

 

Standard stuff. Pegula just removed himself from the drama.

Also makes it clear there’s no plan to fire Beane right after the draft, like what happened with Whaley before.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

The longer Beane and Pegula stay quiet, the longer the rumors will circulate.

 

Beane should be talking today at the latest.

[Bookie Man]

Not that hard, start here.

 

Fix the pass rush and get a WR, get younger at LB. 

[Bruffalo]

5 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yeah.  Dane Jackson getting scorched wasn't a problem. 

Probably shouldn't be putting him on an island then. That's a coaching blunder. 

 

I don't care if you have to take a time out to figure out what to do, you already got burned putting in a 5th string safety earlier in the game.

 

That's two gimme TDs they got off of poor situational coaching. 

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

McDermott is right. It wasn't enough to save his skin. He didn't have to win the Superbowl. He had to not lose to Bo Nix. Maybe he'd have been fired anyway with an AFCCG loss, but who knows? 

 

But on the roster McDermott is right and Beane and Pegula are wrong. 

Not taking a kneel down before halftime is the one thing that McDermott cannot complain about to Beane & Pegula. That play call could very well have sealed McDermott's fate. In a way, those 3 points were the difference in the game, despite the refs screwing us.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, Krakensabres said:

This is where I landed after thinking about these 2 key plays in the game - there was a coaching flaw leaving Savagd and Jackson in those 1:1 positions when everyone knew the ball was going there after injuries 

 

These are the decisions that are critical in playoff times.

 

This is what made the Pats so good and the Chiefs so good during their dynasties.  Small things like that, they didn't blow.

We have to realize as fans the impact that makes.  

It's the saying winners know how to win, losers know how to lose.

[SectionC3]

3 minutes ago, alg said:

Everyone is stuck on the promotion. In this case it means very little. Beane was already head football operations guy. All this promotion did was make it clear he will hire the new coach, and that coach will report to him.

 

Standard stuff. Pegula just removed himself from the drama.

Not really.  It strongly suggests that the new HC is going to work for Beane.  

[gordong]

so we don't need a WR according to Beane???   Well that tells me everything I need to know. 

[Psautcsk]

4 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I think after the Denver game i can definitively say we are a better team than them, which means we have a better roster.  Some poor decisions, turnovers and missed open throws...and a 50/50 ref call did us in.  We know we are at least as good as New England.  Maybe not better but as good... and Houstons D was better but our Offense and overall team is as good if not better.  So yeah, the roster was good enough to have a Super Bowl appearance,, and they failed.

We were better than the Broncos but not better than the NFL replay system.

[BuffaloBillyG]

6 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

The only reason I think Beane is still there is he gave McD what he requested as far as priorities. McD wanted blocking receivers and he got them, McD wanted small DL who could move better and he got them. If McD asked for the ingredients and Beane gave them then it is on McD

This is a fair point and one that we will see from this point on how accurate it may be. 

 

I am a firm believer that while yes, Beane bought the groceries, but he was shopping with the list McDermott provided him. No, I don't think McDermott was saying "GO GET ME TAYLOR RAPP AND ONLY TAYLOR RAPP"...I do think he would tell Beane what type of players he wanted and Beane would try and find it. And I do think that with some players he would specifically ask for them back (Phillips, Poyer, Hyde last year) because he's worked with them in the past. 

 

Yes, I think what you describe with the WR and DL are accurate. 

 

It's absolutely hysterical to me that for years people have complained about McDermott ball, his defensive schemes and his in game management and begged for a new direction....yet when he gets fired it's tragic because he's a nice fella. Oh and Beane is now terrible because he yelled at a radio show host. 

 

This is something that needed to be done years ago. I'm going to hope that Beane can land a coach that can put systems in place to win. I'm hoping the new coach asks for and is given players to fit a modern offense and a physical defense.  I am hoping the players that made a living here by being fits for McDermott's defense and are now aging are gone. 

 

Common word in that last paragraph? HOPE. There is finally hope in my mind this can get turned around as still see a Super Bowl win in my lifetime. 

[Sweats]

8 minutes ago, MphsBillsfan said:

This roster, while not perfect by any stretch, was good enough to go to the super bowl.  

 

We had 5 turnovers and lost by 3 points.  

 

We beat New England already, too. 

 

Beane didn't help with the receiving corp, whether it was salary cap space to get a true #1 here, or whatever.  

 

McDermott has let the organization and fans down on multiple occasions in the playoffs.

 

While blame can go from the owner on down, you play the cards that are delt you and McDermott and Beane didn't cash in. Beane needed to go also.

 Fire away! 

 

 

 

 

...............if the roster was good enough to go to the SB, they would be in the SB

[Mikey152]

16 minutes ago, IYKYK said:

How many of those teams have a college level WR corp? Cooks and Hardman are your starting WR's for the playoffs? That is absolutely horrible. I'm not saying we shouldn't have fired McD, I'm saying beane was no innocent victim who had to do what McD told him to do or else. Beane should have been fired. Most overrated GM I've ever seen. And I've seen the Whaleys, Donough of the world as our GM but beane takes it too another level of incompetence.

Man, people are really obsessed with WR.

 

In 2022, when we had the best roster in the NFL supposedly, our WR were Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Mckenzie, Crowder and Kumarow.  Eventually we brought back Beasley and Brown at the end of the season.

 

I think you could easily argue that outside of Diggs, our WR core is LIGHTYEARS better now than it was then.

 

The media narrative that Josh Allen is our only good player has to stop.  It is an insult to this team.

[All_Pro_Bills]

23 minutes ago, 8BallSippin said:

The problem was 5 turnovers and a defense that made Bo Nix look like a HOFer... and some really poor calls, which weren't the sole reason, but they put the Bills in bad position and solidified the L.

 

Maybe they fact that they had all the odds against them and still almost won on the road to a fresh/rested prepared team, suggests the roster wasn't the biggest problem.

 

There was a fun around this team, some fresh coaching might be the difference.  

 

 

I'd start by what I was yelling at the TV when the Bills came out just before halftime looking like they were running a play with no timeouts and seconds left before halftime. "Just take a f'ing knee" I said. But no. That knucklehead coaching decision is a fire-able offense by itself. How many here thought going for a score in that situation knowing you're getting the ball first in the second half made sense? What NFL HC/OC does the same in that situation? I'm guessing nobody. Without that gift of 3 points the outcome might have been different and of all the screw-ups in this game i thought this was the worst of all. Just plain stupidity.

Edited January 20 by All_Pro_Bills

[Mikey152]

Just now, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

...............if the roster was good enough to go to the SB, they would be in the SB

...Unless they were coached poorly.

 

Only time will tell.