Maybe It's Good the Players Are Not Happy

[milfandcookies]

Not a bad point. Many of these guys have been a little too content/comfortable. 
 

I still think firing McDermott was a bad move but there is something to say about wanting to shake up these players a little 

[MrEpsYtown]

24 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

A 5-year-old would have played better at QB than what Stroud showed on Sunday.

 

Man, the world owes Bryce Young an apology. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

5 turnovers were the biggest factor in the loss.  Not one of those is on McD.  Those are not basic coaching calls.  If you want to say that he should’ve kneeled….i counter with he trusted that the best player in the would know better than to do what he did. 

22 seconds. No time outs. Already down by 7. You get the ball after the half. 

 

The decision to try and press there and it resulting in a fumble is 100% a cause of poor coaching. I don't know how any rational person can defend that. 

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I don't hate people--that's childish.  But I can concede the obvious (unlike you). 

 

No one watching his career in Buffalo can conclude that, given more time, he would have led the Bills to the SB.  Even  Pegula finally realized this.  

 

Nobody can conclude that McDermott would or wouldn’t have won a Super Bowl with McDermott.  You can pretend all you want. The only people that think they can conclude that are people like you.  People who think they are smarter than they are.

 

 

[<bills4life>]

It’s a real shame the power structure wasn’t set up appropriately in buffalo.  It was inevitable that this occurred.  The blame ultimately falls on pegula. 

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

The Cooks pass was thrown nearly perfectly and how it’s taught. You never throw long there. You throw slightly short which allows the receiver to go up and get it, and also draws a PI half the time. 

lol.  No it was not.  He had him beat and cooks had to downshift and come back for the ball.  

[Einstein]

Just now, NewEra said:

lol.  No it was not.  He had him beat and cooks had to downshift and come back for the ball.  

 

The reason I said nearly perfectly, instead of perfectly, is because it could have been a foot longer. But that’s essentially nothing. It was thrown textbook. 

This isn’t Madden where you hit guys over the shoulder in stride on that route. You give them a chance to go up and get it, and also draw a PI because the defender runs into them when it happens.

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Of course it is.  Plain and simple--not taking a knee before the half was the difference in this game.  It was an incredibly dumb decision by a guy who sudddenly thought he might feel like Dan Campbell or whatnot.

Or maybe he trusted that the best player in the world wouldn’t have made one of the dumbest plays of his career in such a critical game. 
 

maybe that’s too much to ask.  I don’t think it is. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

45 minutes ago, haroldwaide said:

As much as it hurts to say this...Bellicheat would have won multiple superbowls with this team...

 

Doubtful, his drafts are just as bad if not worse than Beane's.

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

22 seconds. No time outs. Already down by 7. You get the ball after the half. 

 

The decision to try and press there and it resulting in a fumble is 100% a cause of poor coaching. I don't know how any rational person can defend that. 

Putting trust in Josh Allen not making

 

even if you want to put that on McD…. Fine.  The other FOUR turnovers were not his fault.  Those other turnovers led to 13 points.

[Einstein]

Just now, NewEra said:

Or maybe he trusted that the best player in the world wouldn’t have made one of the dumbest plays of his career in such a critical game. 
 

maybe that’s too much to ask.  I don’t think it is. 

 

Im a big McD fan but it was a dumb decision to run the offense in that situation. 

 

Even Josh Allen isn’t getting that ball into field goal range with 0 timeouts. If we had a timeout, sure. But he was expecting Allen to deliver a 35 yard strike, run the offense down the field, spike the ball, and still leave time ont the clock?

 

It wasnt happening.

[Mikie2times]

I always found player content to be completely overrated. At much lower levels I had plenty of coaches I didn't like to play for. But they always seemed to be on teams that performed the best. In this instance, you have to think as an NFL player change or lack of predictability is undesirable. It's a very difficult sport. You're always thinking you will be cut. You want to have some idea of what's coming each training camp. So of course this isn't desirable to them. But change creates discomfort and that creates growth. I have no issue at all if they all hate it. It means nothing. 

[ddaryl]

The players are part of the formula that got him fired so they need to look in the mirror. If they loved McD because he was a nice guy and a cooach they wanted to keep, then they should of got us and won the dance by now.

We did not, and the old saying is ... Nice guys finish last... or in this case don't make and win Superbowls

[JGMcD2]

21 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

If the goal is to get to the SB it was clear this was never going to happen with McD.  This organization is starving for outside voices after a regime that was completely incestuous, promoting underlings that McD could dispose of whenever it seemed to favor him.

 

The results are what they are.

I’m fine with an outside voice. Other than Klint Kubiak, the favorites to be the next Bills Head Coach are Brian Daboll, Joe Brady, or maybe Davis Webb. That’s a pretty incestuous group.
 

Daboll doesn’t have the traits of a head coach. He’s struggled everywhere unless he’s propped up by someone like Belichick, Saban, or McDermott. Shane Steichen made him look bad this year - just look at Daniel Jones before the injury.
 

If you thought McDermott was a sinking ship, going to Joe Brady is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. He doesn’t inspire confidence and he’s been part of the "problem" since 2022.
 

Davis Webb feels slightly more removed - coaching reps almost exclusively in Denver - but he’s too close to Josh Allen. Could be fun? Maybe. Still pretty incestuous.

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

The reason I said nearly perfectly, instead of perfectly, is because it could have been a foot longer. But that’s essentially nothing. It was thrown textbook. 

This isn’t Madden where you hit guys over the shoulder in stride on that route. You give them a chance to go up and get it, and also draw a PI because the defender runs into them when it happens.

We’ve seen Josh make that throw perfect several times in his career.  
 

if he threw the ball further, the defender wouldn’t have been in position to make a play on the ball.  He didn’t and we lost.  
 

I bet watching the media over the last 2 days has been fun for you.  He’s been getting destroyed because gave the game away according to them.  
 

I won’t be reading your other posts in this thread. You’re clearly seeing red as you always do when someone says Josh made a mistake.  

[US Egg]

1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

The most successful franchise in NFL history had an unbearable jerk on the sideline, who everyone hated.  Just something to think about.

Unbearable jerk on the sideline? I take his stoic posture over the insufferable showboating act of some of today’s bright minds gesticulating, yeah, I said gesticulating, up and down the sideline with their one man act. One thing about McDermott was he didn’t make himself a parody on the field.

[jaybills]

54 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I keep saying it in other threads I want someone who is tougher on guys so the mental lapses are cut down on 

Snag Belichick from UNC and make it happen. He'll have the defense clicking and Josh Allen held accountable for rookie mistakes he continually makes. 

[ScotSHO]

15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Of course it is.  Plain and simple--not taking a knee before the half was the difference in this game.  It was an incredibly dumb decision by a guy who sudddenly thought he might feel like Dan Campbell or whatnot.

Correct - I think this is also an indication of the way they've handled JA.  Like it or not, he needs constant reigning in and reminders to function on schedule.  Avoid running the play all together and give the guy an extra couple of minutes where he can be a "normal" QB and take a mental break.  Reset.  Constantly putting him in the hero mode is not a way to live, even in the playoffs.  We need him to be deadly accurate with 0:55 seconds left in the 4th quarter.  That pass to Knox might have worked if Josh wasn't chasing his mistakes for the entirety of the 2nd half.

[Einstein]

Just now, NewEra said:

You’re clearly seeing red as you always do when someone says Josh made a mistake.  

 

Josh made several mistakes in that game, including 2 turnovers that were completely his fault. He also bounced a pass and missed Knox who was open (but likely wouldn’t have scored). Josh played well overall but he was a large part of why we lost.

 

But that doesn’t mean he didn’t throw that one pass nearly perfectly. Could it have been a foot further? Sure. But it was well without the range of a good, accurate throw and how it’s taught to be thrown. This isn’t Madden.

[Ga boy]

57 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Ironic that in McDermotts final game-the player that may have saved his job over the last 6 years under threw multiple important passes and had 4 turnovers that directly led to the loss.  2 of the under throws were interceptions (yes, the cooks interception was underthrown and a better pass = game over).  

funny how the world works.  Especially the world of the Buffalo Bills.  

 

Yes I see the irony.  I can’t help but think it takes more than a few weeks to get the timing down with a new WR.  After all, Josh hasn’t been throwing to guys at 4.3 speed which may explain the under throws.  I’m sure it will be better next year when we have new WRs with speed in camp.