Dick_Cheney Posted January 18 Posted January 18 2 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said: But why? We are not really close to a super bowl roster imo. If anything we overachievied. Everything had to be schemed for success, we never win these games with just raw blue chip talent I think we are. Insert 3 higher quality players at WR, CB, and DL/DE and we win this game. I’m not even saying they have to be elite. Just pretty damn good compared to who we had out there tonight. If you want to get really crazy and get a true top tier WR1 and WR2, I think we win this game by at least 14. Instead, eveyone is overcompensating and several of our players are just straight up not good enough. Like legitimately probably shouldn’t be NFL starters. And here we are. Quote
Simon Posted January 18 Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said: Insert 3 higher quality players at WR, CB, and DL/DE and we win this game. Insert any 2-3 of Oliver, Hairston, Hoecht or Poyer and we probably win this game. 1 2 Quote
Dibs Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said: I think I watched the patriots go to 10 super bowls in 20 years with a slow and steady approach Yeah, but I'd personally rather not cheat to win. Quote
SirAndrew Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Simon said: Insert any 2-3 of Oliver, Hairston, Hoecht or Poyer and we probably win this game. This is a good point, but it’s also said that availability is the greatest asset a player can possess. None of these guys have ever shown it. I’ll give Hairston a break as a young guy, but an old vet like Poyer is no surprise. Hoecht was always going to unreliable being a juicer. We need to begin considering getting away from the old timer signings and oft injured players. Quote
dayman Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) Injuries killed us this year. Ultimately, players choked. Josh worst of all. You can’t blame Bean or McD for last night. Josh needs to hit game winning throws and not turn the ball over he makes the money so make the play. The plays were there. With that said yes we need WR revamp and pass rush. Edited January 18 by dayman 1 Quote
Trogdor Posted January 18 Posted January 18 They are already firmly in salary cap hell. There will be no chance to go all in for a few years. This was it at the trade deadline. 5 minutes ago, dayman said: Injuries killed us this year. Ultimately, players choked. Josh worst of all. You can’t blame Bean or McD for last night. Josh needs to hit game winning throws and not turn the ball over he makes the money so make the play. The plays were there. With that said yes we need WR revamp and pass rush. The defense gave up 30 (take away 3 from the Josh Fumble) in the playoffs. The defensive line is a joke and that's on Beane and McDermott. That loss was a group effort years in the making. Quote
dayman Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Trogdor said: They are already firmly in salary cap hell. There will be no chance to go all in for a few years. This was it at the trade deadline. The defense gave up 30 (take away 3 from the Josh Fumble) in the playoffs. The defensive line is a joke and that's on Beane and McDermott. That loss was a group effort years in the making. And despite it all we had every chance to win, but our $55M per year franchise all-world QB put the ball on the ground twice, threw 2 picks, and missed two game winning throws. Edited January 18 by dayman Quote
Charles Romes Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) Disagree. Best way to have an affordable and durable roster is the Rams 2.0 approach where they go BPA and build through the draft. Occasionally, you have picks like Walker and Hawes who outperform their draft stock. Edited January 18 by Charles Romes Quote
bmur66 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) Going all in hasn’t worked out with high priced free agents. Have overpaid some of our own. Now we are mortgaged into a not good place. Now what do you have to say Mr. Beane? Now what? Now we have to take our medicine. Just like when you drive one into the woods. Edited January 18 by bmur66 Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Need to put as much resources into premium positions as possible and just focus on finding solid starters and role player depth elsewhere. Quote
tigerthelion Posted January 18 Posted January 18 11 hours ago, Special K said: Salary Cap Hell be damned......at this point, the likelihood that the Bills will win multiple Super Bowls with Josh Allen is lowering by the year. It may be time to "Mortgage the Future" for a shot to win just one dang Super Bowl. I honestly don't see Josh Allen playing until he is 40.....when these seasons end in such heartbreaking fashion, I sometimes worry Josh will pull an Andrew Luck and retire earlier then we would expect. He could retire right now and still be a first-ballot Hall of Famer....he's got all the money in the world, an actress wife, and now a kid on the way......how much longer will he want to put his body on the line for his seasons to end in such horrible ways?? I think the Bills have 3-5 years left to win a Super Bowl with Josh Allen......time to do whatever it takes to make that happen..... That time was really a year or two ago, but especially now. After Josh is gone, good luck finding a QB. They should manage the team like Howie Roseman manages the Eagles. Push salary down the road, then push more down the road the next year, then do it again. 1 Quote
Whkfc Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Is sustained success or the cap. We are at the back end of Joshs prime we gotta go all in. I dont care about 2028s cap. Make moves push it out whatever. Like we cant even just lose it has to every year be devastating. Dramatic losses its crazy. Also i really hope to gid i never see Dane Jackson under contract with the Bills again. 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 18 Posted January 18 It was necessary for Dane Jackson to be on the field for the most important snap of the season but not in the meaningless snaps against the Jets. Let’s get Max hurt in a game he never should have seen the field in. That ***** matters. That’s why we need change 3 Quote
KOKBILLS Posted January 18 Posted January 18 13 hours ago, Special K said: Salary Cap Hell be damned......at this point, the likelihood that the Bills will win multiple Super Bowls with Josh Allen is lowering by the year. It may be time to "Mortgage the Future" for a shot to win just one dang Super Bowl. I honestly don't see Josh Allen playing until he is 40.....when these seasons end in such heartbreaking fashion, I sometimes worry Josh will pull an Andrew Luck and retire earlier then we would expect. He could retire right now and still be a first-ballot Hall of Famer....he's got all the money in the world, an actress wife, and now a kid on the way......how much longer will he want to put his body on the line for his seasons to end in such horrible ways?? I think the Bills have 3-5 years left to win a Super Bowl with Josh Allen......time to do whatever it takes to make that happen..... If Beane is the guy doing it... We're already f*****... Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 It's year 9 of Beane/McDermott and we're still saying this. Nothing will change, we will get a LB in the 1st round of the draft I'm banking on it. 1 Quote
Dr.Sack Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Hancock > Cam Lewis > Darnel Savage Hairston > Dane Jackson There are no easy fixes. But the formula is the same, draft, develop resign. Trade, move on from broken older pieces. Quote
Carmel Corn Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Nope, we’re in salary cap jail too deep. Factor in the dead cap void years and there’s nothing we can do in terms of big splashes to improve the roster. Given Bean’s drafting record, not much help coming there either. I feel sorry for Josh. Quote
Urban Achievers Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) Imagine the offseason as a trip to toys r us when you were 8. You’re with rich grandparents who say pick out what you like. That should be josh with whomever our GM is (hopefully not Beane)… WRs r Us. Bills can make it work despite opinion on our cap. You always can. Edited January 18 by Urban Achievers Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 14 hours ago, LEBills said: Unfortunately, we already mortgaged it a bit. We probably need to not do much in 2026 and let the bad contracts fall off. (#1 reason Beane needs to go.) Then in 2027 you would have cap space to do what you are saying. Not really. I think we're projected to be like $4m over the cap. I think Buffalo should consider letting Edwards and McGovern walking in FA and starting SVPG and Anderson on the OL now that they've had time to develop. Cut Samuel and you save some more money and then do the obvious available restructure (Josh and probably guys like Spencer Brown, Dion, Groot, Knox, Shakir or any combo of those guys) and the Bills can probably put themselves in position to make some real splashes via trade and/or FA. I think we could cut Bass and save money too. The Bills OL room doesn't need any additions other than depth guys you can draft and put in the pipeline. Our DT room is mostly set. Our RBs are set. Our TEs are set. Our DE room needs work but one hopes Landon Jackson benefits from the offseason and Hoecht gets back sooner rather than later. It'd be nice to bring Shaq back if he'd come back on a team friendly deal. Same with Tre, AJE, and Milano., though I think Milano walks and that's fine. The only player to extend this offseason is Torrence and that wouldn't affect the cap for a couple years. Do the 5th year on Kincaid since TEs are cheap. I want 3 splashy moves via FA/trade/draft. 2 WRs and a DE. We can afford it. 1 Quote
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