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I'll never fault a player for taking the money. I do fault them when the say it's all about winning and then sign a huge deal with a perpetual bottom dweller

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For someone living in the UK, it's really strange to see. 

 

But also quite refreshing

 

The idea that a player as good as Miles Garrett is playing for someone like the Browns just doesn't happen in our sports - partially as no wage cap etc - and I quite like that it can in the NFL.

 

But I cstill an't get my head around elite athletes not wanting an SB ring more than another million. I suppose it's professionalism writ large. 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Danger Mouse said:

But I cstill an't get my head around elite athletes not wanting an SB ring more than another million. I suppose it's professionalism writ large. 

It’s often many millions and as we’ve seen, a championship isn’t guaranteed, even on a stacked roster. Takes a lot of luck to win one. The championship is for NFL legacy, money is for their lifetime (if handled correctly).

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3 hours ago, eball said:

 

Winner winner chicken dinner.  There is no one-size-fits-all answer to this question.

 

I will say that I believe in general, once a player knows he has earned enough money to make a generational difference in his and his family’s lives, then the quest for a ring becomes top priority…

 

 

Depends on the players starting point, too. Guys like Josh already have alot of money, family land, and  cantaloupes. He could easily pound the table every year for more, but he is an example of someone who doesnt seem too concerned whether he's making 45 or 55 million as long as he has a shot to win it all. Plus he knocked up a Hollywood star so he could always collect alimony if he decides to call it quits. 

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3 hours ago, 947 said:

Really does depend on the player. The guys wearing $700k gold chains would probably go to the Jets if they offered significantly more.

If the Super Bowl ring bling is their thing, then the outrageous cash ain't nuthin' but trash. 😁

Then again, remember who owns the Jets.

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To be honest, these guys SHOULD be chasing the money, not titles. Teams can flip in one season, going from good to bad and vice versa. There’s no guarantee that a title is coming by taking less, so why should they do that?

 

I have said this plenty of times, but the guys in the front office are also paid huge amounts of money to make these things work, that’s their job. It’s not up to the player to make things work under the cap. They should be looking to make the most amount of money they can and let the people in charge sort everything else out 

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After your last big money contract, when your value is dropping, then  it’s all about “I want to play for a championship “…

 

Before that, no player ever leaves money on the table

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JJ Watt was the other one we were in for who went to Arizona for more money. 

I think normally once a player hits the market its all about the dollar. Sometimes players will take less than their market value to stay with a contender rather than hit the market - but that isn't just a chase rings v money consideration. In those cases a guy knows he fits the team and they allow him to mamximise his talent and so it is that certainty and assurity plus a chance at a ring vs money. That is a different equation.

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4 hours ago, Brand J said:

Hey guys, I’m having an argument with a friend that guys in the NFL chase money over an opportunity to play for a championship team. Told him if the money is equal, then sure, they’ll go to the winning franchise, but if a basement dweller is offering more? They’ll most likely go there.
 

Can you guys give me names of some athletes that prove that case? Who remembers who Brandon Beane has missed out on because he didn’t offer a few million more? Already gave him Myles Garrett’s name, but we’re talking free agency.

 

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

JJ Watt was the other one we were in for who went to Arizona for more money. 

I think normally once a player hits the market its all about the dollar. Sometimes players will take less than their market value to stay with a contender rather than hit the market - but that isn't just a chase rings v money consideration. In those cases a guy knows he fits the team and they allow him to mamximise his talent and so it is that certainty and assurity plus a chance at a ring vs money. That is a different equation.

JJ Watt was who I was going to say. Excellent example. Another example both ways ..our own Jordan Phillips. Chased money to Arizona when he was a FA..only to come back here and chase a ring. Leonard Floyd is another guy. After the year he played here he was asked if he would be back and flat out said "I'll go where the money tells me"

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I mean I’d lean towards the money more than the title. Reason for that is NFL contracts aren’t guaranteed like Baseball or Basketball. NFL contracts seem great on the surface ,and don’t get me wrong these guys make good money, but they only get the guaranteed portion of their contract. 
 

To give you an example Anthony Rendon a baseball player , signed with the Angels as a big ticket free agent for 7 years 245 million dollars over 30 mill AAV. In his 6 season with the Angels he’s missed one complete season, and played around 50 games out of a possible 162 in his other 5 seasons. An NFL team would have cut him years ago but since their contracts are fully guaranteed he’s going to see every penny of that 245 million dollars. 
 


I mean it’s crazy to think about but NFL careers are short, they don’t have guaranteed contracts so in whatever length of career they have they for sure have to maximize their value 

 

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