Brand J Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Hey guys, I’m having an argument with a friend that guys in the NFL chase money over an opportunity to play for a championship team. Told him if the money is equal, then sure, they’ll go to the winning franchise, but if a basement dweller is offering more? They’ll most likely go there. Can you guys give me names of some athletes that prove that case? Who remembers who Brandon Beane has missed out on because he didn’t offer a few million more? Already gave him Myles Garrett’s name, but we’re talking free agency. Quote
Simon Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Depends on the guy and where they are in their career. You'll be able to find plenty of examples on both sides of the argument. 6 1 Quote
benderbender Posted January 17 Posted January 17 DeAndre Hopkins is a shining example of both. Said he wanted rings, then took the highest dollar amount. After he got that last bump, decided to go to a contender for less for the past two seasons. Quote
US Egg Posted January 17 Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, Brand J said: Can you guys give me names of some athletes that prove that case? Who remembers who Brandon Beane has missed out on because he didn’t offer a few million more? …and of course this isn’t meant as a BB hit piece. 🫠 Quote
eball Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Simon said: Depends on the guy and where they are in their career. You'll be able to find plenty of examples on both sides of the argument. Winner winner chicken dinner. There is no one-size-fits-all answer to this question. I will say that I believe in general, once a player knows he has earned enough money to make a generational difference in his and his family’s lives, then the quest for a ring becomes top priority… Edited January 17 by eball Quote
Brand J Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, US Egg said: …and of course this isn’t meant as a BB hit piece. 🫠 It’s not, I just told him I remember when we were upset that Beane didn’t throw a few million more to a player to get him. I don’t intend this to be a hit piece, but my friend is convinced guys routinely take less to play for contenders. 11 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Mario Williams going to the Bills He signed the most lucrative contact for a defensive player in history at the time. And the Bills weren’t a contender. That would strengthen my argument more. Quote
Brand J Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, benderbender said: DeAndre Hopkins is a shining example of both. Said he wanted rings, then took the highest dollar amount. After he got that last bump, decided to go to a contender for less for the past two seasons. I thought about Hopkins and how he chased the highest bidder. How much money did he leave on the table when he went to Baltimore? Quote
T.E. Posted January 17 Posted January 17 The money is way more important, especially considering how precarious an NFL career is. Taking less for a ring generally doesn't happen unless the player is well over 30 and has already banked a few big contracts. Quote
Brand J Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 Just now, T.E. said: The money is way more important, especially considering how precarious an NFL career is. Taking less for a ring generally doesn't happen unless the player is well over 30 and has already banked a few big contracts. That was mostly my argument. All of this started because he said if Warner had won a couple rings then the Rams would’ve had a chance to keep it going because guys would’ve been trying to join that franchise. I said “no” and the debate began 😂 Quote
US Egg Posted January 17 Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, Brand J said: It’s not, I just told him I remember when we were upset that Beane didn’t throw a few million more to a player to get him. I don’t intend this to be a hit piece, but my friend is convinced guys routinely take less to play for contenders. So you meant generically and BB was just a reference point. Got it. 1 Quote
BillsPride12 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 16 minutes ago, Brand J said: It’s not, I just told him I remember when we were upset that Beane didn’t throw a few million more to a player to get him. I don’t intend this to be a hit piece, but my friend is convinced guys routinely take less to play for contenders. He signed the most lucrative contact for a defensive player in history at the time. And the Bills weren’t a contender. That would strengthen my argument more. Yes isn't that what you were looking for? 1 Quote
paulmm3 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Depends on the player. Tyreek Hill has said that money and the absence of state taxes are why he signed in Miami. Josh just took less money so the Bills would have a better shot at winning. Different players prioritize differently and there's nothing wrong with that. Quote
Brand J Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 8 minutes ago, paulmm3 said: Depends on the player. Tyreek Hill has said that money and the absence of state taxes are why he signed in Miami. Josh just took less money so the Bills would have a better shot at winning. Different players prioritize differently and there's nothing wrong with that. I don’t know if Josh can be used here. His $45M contract was becoming a crazy bargain so the Bills gave him a pay raise to make him the second highest paid in the league I believe at $55M/yr. The player I heard who actively took far less than his market value was Tom Brady. Wasn’t as in tune to the contracts at that time to remember how much he was forfeiting. Quote
947 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Really does depend on the player. The guys wearing $700k gold chains would probably go to the Jets if they offered significantly more. Bosa probably got offered more by teams that weren't contenders, but came here to have a shot at the title. 1 minute ago, Brand J said: The player I heard who actively took far less than his market value was Tom Brady. Wasn’t as in tune to the contracts at that time to remember how much he was forfeiting. It's speculated that Brady made up that difference in an under the table deal with Kraft for his TB12 merchandising. Quote
Brand J Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 1 minute ago, 947 said: Really does depend on the player. The guys wearing $700k gold chains would probably go to the Jets if they offered significantly more. Bosa probably got offered more by teams that weren't contenders, but came here to have a shot at the title. Yeah, I think what I’m seeing is that without the contracts in front of us, it’s impossible to know what the player is sacrificing. We only see players who say they want to win championships and then sign with dud teams for big money. Other posters also pointed out that the older a player gets, the more they want a championship. I still don’t know if they’re leaving more than $3-$5M/yr on the table to join a contender and that’s the part I suppose we won’t know without the offers. 4 minutes ago, 947 said: It's speculated that Brady made up that difference in an under the table deal with Kraft for his TB12 merchandising. Wouldn’t doubt it, they weren’t called the “Cheats” for no reason 1 Quote
stlbills13 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 There are plenty of players who not only solely care about the money but who also actively do not want to play football in January 1 Quote
QB Bills Posted January 17 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, stlbills13 said: There are plenty of players who not only solely care about the money but who also actively do not want to play football in January This would be me Quote
Billsfanatic8989 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) Tom Brady had a wife who made more than him. He also got paid millions in endorsements. He will still end up with a higher net worth than 99% of NFL players. Mahomes took less. Allen is making less than what the market would dictate. A guy like Lamar Jackson seems to be about the money. Which...I can't fault him for. Edited January 17 by Billsfanatic8989 Quote
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