Ed Oliver and Curtis Samuel are expected to play tomorrow

[boyst]

100% let him get 3-4 snaps in the first quarter.

3-4 second quarter

3-4 third quarter. 

6-7 4th quarter

 

Back end his load management if we need to. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

10 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Samuel owes this team like 5 touchdowns minimum 

Best part is there's almost no footage on Samuel as a Bills WR this year. Denver isn't ready. 

[GASabresIUFan]

Wow, good news on the injury front.  Who knew this was even possible?

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

Best part is there's almost no footage on Samuel as a Bills WR this year. Denver isn't ready. 

I wrote something like that on another thread.   Brady has a secret package for Samuel last used in Carolina.  Denver won't know what hit them.

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, boyst said:

100% let him get 3-4 snaps in the first quarter.

3-4 second quarter

3-4 third quarter. 

6-7 4th quarter

 

Back end his load management if we need to. 

Not like coming off a torn ACL 

 

He's either healed or he's not.. if he's healed you don't need to ramp him up slowly 

 

He should be playing at least 30 plus snaps if he's healthy.. he's our best defensive tackle

 

He's still able to do conditioning throughout the whole rehab he should not be out of shape

Edited January 16 by Buffalo716

[Steptide]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Best part is there's almost no footage on Samuel as a Bills WR this year. Denver isn't ready. 

Man let's hope. Not sure how much chemistry him and Allen can have on a short week of practice 

[Starr Almighty]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Best part is there's almost no footage on Samuel as a Bills WR. Denver isn't ready. 

I fixed it for you 

[Urban Achievers]

[Simon]

21 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Not like coming off a torn ACL 

 

He's either healed or he's not.. if he's healed you don't need to ramp him up slowly 

 

He should be playing at least 30 plus snaps if he's healthy.. he's our best defensive tackle

 

Arm surgery is a massive issue for an undersized DT that plays like Oliver.

Between that and the inevitable conditioning issues, I wouldn't even let him see the field before halftime if there's a way to do that without hurting the rest of the DT unit.

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Not like coming off a torn ACL 

 

He's either healed or he's not.. if he's healed you don't need to ramp him up slowly 

 

He should be playing at least 30 plus snaps if he's healthy.. he's our best defensive tackle

 

He's still able to do conditioning throughout the whole rehab he should not be out of shape

I'm not looking at healed I'm looking at cardio. Late in the game a healthy, healed, and rested Oliver is going to be more important than anything else.

 

Getting him in early when he will wear out high altitude just coming back will wear him down faster.

 

If we get to later in the game and it's 4th and we see we don't need him in limit him. 

[Simon]

Just now, boyst said:

I'm not looking at healed I'm looking at cardio. Late in the game a healthy, healed, and rested Oliver is going to be more important than anything else.

 

Getting him in early when he will wear out high altitude just coming back will wear him down faster.

 

If we get to later in the game and it's 4th and we see we don't need him in limit him. 

 

lol, beat you by about 15 seconds 

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

A tricep is a massive issue for an undersized DT that plays like Oliver.

Between that and the inevitable conditioning issues, I wouldn't even let him see the field before halftime if there's a way to do that without hurting the rest of the DT unit.

Sean McDermott is not the guy to put players at risk though 

 

He suits him up he's ready to play 

 

It's definitely more of a mental thing than a physical thing... It's either healed or not realistically .. I would not trot him out at 85% healed

 

If they're still worried then he shouldn't play

Edited January 16 by Buffalo716

[boyst]

Just now, Simon said:

 

lol, beat you by about 15 seconds 

Fine. Watch this.

 

Rushing back a tricep injury on a player like Oliver is dangerous. A finesse mover like Oliver needs full range of motion and ability to use his whole body.

 

Playing OL you learn to have no separation of yourself and a defender so they can't move. Playing DL you learn that you need to be able to move off of the body of the blocker. This is done with hips in body leverage/balance with the arm being the lever and the hips being the pivot point. To get physics inserted, the legs are the load and the head is the effort. Where the head goes the body goes - a wrestling term. 

 

Without the ability to use an extended arm for a lever your hips can't be used to pivot, means you can't support your load, which means you get no effort. 

[eball]

Just now, boyst said:

Fine. Watch this.

 

Rushing back a tricep injury on a player like Oliver is dangerous. A finesse mover like Oliver needs full range of motion and ability to use his whole body.

 

Playing OL you learn to have no separation of yourself and a defender so they can't move. Playing DL you learn that you need to be able to move off of the body of the blocker. This is done with hips in body leverage/balance with the arm being the lever and the hips being the pivot point. To get physics inserted, the legs are the load and the head is the effort. Where the head goes the body goes - a wrestling term. 

 

Without the ability to use an extended arm for a lever your hips can't be used to pivot, means you can't support your load, which means you get no effort. 

 

I defer to your physics.  I think what some of us are saying is the McD would not activate him if he isn’t able to play.

 

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Sean McDermott is not the guy to put players at risk though 

 

He suits him up he's ready to play 

 

It's definitely more of a mental thing than a physical thing... It's either healed or not realistically .. I would not trot him out at 85% healed

 

If they're still worried then he shouldn't play

 

It's not a risk issue, it's an effectiveness issue.

[WeckMonster]

5 minutes ago, boyst said:

Fine. Watch this.

 

Rushing back a tricep injury on a player like Oliver is dangerous.

Good thing it was his bicep. All good!

[nucci]

28 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Any word on 26? 

Gore playing so guessing no

[eball]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

It's not a risk issue, it's an effectiveness issue.

 

Fair enough.  Do you think McD will put a guy out there who can’t play to his abilities?  In a playoff game?  I don’t.

 

[nucci]

18 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Best part is there's almost no footage on Samuel as a Bills WR this year. Denver isn't ready. 

Come on

[boyst]

5 minutes ago, eball said:

 

I defer to your physics.  I think what some of us are saying is the McD would not activate him if he isn’t able to play.

 

I agree that McDermott will not activate and did not activate him unless he thought he can contribute but also believe this is part of his recovery. 

 

I fully expect him to get more reps as the game goes on.

 

If needed at the end and the break emergency if glass... He's unleashed.

 

Short of that he's tethered. 

[eball]

Just now, nucci said:

Come on

 

It was a joke.