Will The Bills Be Impacted by the Altitude in Denver?

[Simon]

Just now, billsbackto81 said:

15 years now 😂

 

We need a jealous emoji 

[BigAl2526]

20 minutes ago, ryguy101 said:

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoffs/127778/buffalo-bills-altitude-of-denver-broncos-stadium-afc-playoffs-thin-air-stamina-oxygen

 

Josh played at Wyoming which is at even higher elevation.. Cole Bishop is used to it as well

 

Good article 

 

Do you think it will affect us?

When you live in a high altitude environment,  it's not just a matter of being familiar with what it feels like.  Your body actually adapts to the conditions as needed.  I'm not a medical professional, but I think it has to do with your body making more red blood cells.  Once you have left that high altitude environment, your body will readjust to a more oxygen rich environment.   Having lived and played in a high altitude environment a few years ago, their bodies won't have retained the adaptations to high altitudes.  All they can do is tell their teammates what it feels like.  I assume the team will have plenty bottled oxygen on the sidelines for the game.  When players come out of the game they'll go on the oxygen.  That's the main concrete step the team can take to deal with the altitude. 

[3rdand12]

28 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

It's easier to run block than it is to pass block. Less energy by the big guys up front. I hope the gameplan is to run the ball alot, shorten the game, and keep Cook/Davis busy. 

Not sure about this one. Our line is more often blocking second level Defenders.

But for the WRs and TEs yea , they might be the concern over 4 qtrs.

I am sure there are a few men here who know the answer from experience here 😉

11 minutes ago, colin said:

i think after the victory the players will worry that the bus taking them to the airport seems to be struggling to accelerate off of the on ramp up to cruising speed, but really it's because at a higher altitude the air is thinner and naturally aspirated motors don't produce the power they do at sea level.  it is times like these that i wish marcel dareous with all of his drag racing experience was there to comfort the players teaching them about DA and performance.

air fuel ratio = power. or not.

 decrease the timing lol

Edited January 16 by 3rdand12

[djp14150]

46 minutes ago, ryguy101 said:

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoffs/127778/buffalo-bills-altitude-of-denver-broncos-stadium-afc-playoffs-thin-air-stamina-oxygen

 

Josh played at Wyoming which is at even higher elevation.. Cole Bishop is used to it as well

 

Good article 

 

Do you think it will affect us?

 

 

no.  You Need to be 7600+ ft or higher to get affected.

 

 

46 minutes ago, ryguy101 said:

 

 

46 minutes ago, ryguy101 said:

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoffs/127778/buffalo-bills-altitude-of-denver-broncos-stadium-afc-playoffs-thin-air-stamina-oxygen

 

Josh played at Wyoming which is at even higher elevation.. Cole Bishop is used to it as well

 

Good article 

 

Do you think it will affect us?

 

[jcamm1966]

Another reason for Oliver to play , McD will rotate guys all day even for a play here or there

[BillsShredder83]

43 minutes ago, ryguy101 said:

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoffs/127778/buffalo-bills-altitude-of-denver-broncos-stadium-afc-playoffs-thin-air-stamina-oxygen

 

Josh played at Wyoming which is at even higher elevation.. Cole Bishop is used to it as well

 

Good article 

 

Do you think it will affect us?

2nd half? Yes.  4th Q specifically? Yes.  Especially on our DL imo

 

Its science cant really argue it.  Its a bit different because UFC is much more cardio dependent than explosive dependent (although plenty there too).  Those guys LOVE going to TC at altitude and treat it like a weighted back pack... when you leave, you feel light and everything just easier.

 

The inverse of this is true too.  I had to go back and check which it was thinking it was Denver.... but it was UFC 307 in Salt Lake.  Every fighter talked about how shocking it was to how their body responded. Even Alex Pereira was struggling, which is not something Ive seen elsewhere.  Dude had evenly moved up a weight class (less weight cut fatigue) and had been giving glowing reports how much better he felt overall.... didnt hear that in this fight.

 

Also, I think it effects the larger players more than anyone else.  We CAN NOT set our DL up for failure.  If were losing in 4th Q, and Denver can keep spamming rush plays, were going to be in trouble.  Also, it takes like 2-3 weeks to acclimate, so nothing we can do there

[Simon]

5 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

 

 

no.  You Need to be 7600+ ft or higher to get affected.

 

 

 

 

 

That's just for AMS, not for the shortness of breath they'll probably experience at various points, especially later in the game.

[BillsShredder83]

53 minutes ago, ryguy101 said:

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoffs/127778/buffalo-bills-altitude-of-denver-broncos-stadium-afc-playoffs-thin-air-stamina-oxygen

 

Josh played at Wyoming which is at even higher elevation.. Cole Bishop is used to it as well

 

Good article 

 

Do you think it will affect us?

You cant get "used" to it in that manner unfortunately.  You're either actively acclimated to it, or you are not.  Its not toughing like a Buffalo ex-pat, going home for Holidays and toughing through the cold

[Billsfed1]

50 minutes ago, Process said:

Exactly…answer is sheeeeeet no

[TheBrownBear]

2 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

When you live in a high altitude environment,  it's not just a matter of being familiar with what it feels like.  Your body actually adapts to the conditions as needed.  I'm not a medical professional, but I think it has to do with your body making more red blood cells.  Once you have left that high altitude environment, your body will readjust to a more oxygen rich environment.   Having lived and played in a high altitude environment a few years ago, their bodies won't have retained the adaptations to high altitudes.  All they can do is tell their teammates what it feels like.  I assume the team will have plenty bottled oxygen on the sidelines for the game.  When players come out of the game they'll go on the oxygen.  That's the main concrete step the team can take to deal with the altitude. 

That's why the top American distance runners do a lot of their training in the Rocky Mountains. It's also why East Africans dominate distance running events.

[Fleezoid]

3 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I think some of us fans just need to take a breath. 

 

Yes. A breath of thin air. 

[BeyondTheProcess]

4 hours ago, Simon said:

It's only about 5,000' so acclimation isn't a huge issue until you get up around 8,000'.

Acclimatizing to 5,000' typically only takes a day or two.

 

For those of you pointing out the last time we stomped them out in Denver, take heed of the fact that the game was over by the 4th qrtr and there was heavy rotation in a regular season game.

If the Bills are going to run into trouble with the altitude, it's going to be because they are running a playoff rotation (i.e. Rousseau took 80% of the defensive snaps last week) and if the game is tight in the 4th qrtr again, there will be probably be some guys sucking wind.

 

I remember moving there from WNY for a job in 1980 or so and going out to play basketball in the Washington Park gym one night.   i was in pretty good shape and I was shocked at how gassed I got after 30 min or so.    Just a random observation.   It is different.  

Edited January 16 by ProcessTruster

[frostbitmic]

In the 4th Quarter the fat guys will be sucking air... Of course in the 4th Quarter at sea level they're sucking air.

[MJS]

Not really. It might mean rotating a little more often. But they will recover between plays and series as normal.

4 hours ago, ryguy101 said:

Josh played at Wyoming which is at even higher elevation.. Cole Bishop is used to it as well

That's ancient history. Your body acclimates to the elevation you live at pretty rapidly. Going back requires another adjustment. But it isn't that big of a deal, especially for professional athletes.

[Sierra Foothills]

5 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Short answer: nah

 

That's not the short answer.

 

5 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

No

 

THIS... is the short answer.

 

1 hour ago, Fleezoid said:

Yes. A breath of thin air. 

 

 

 

[BillytheKid]

I’m originally from Wyoming. Denver is 2000 feet lower than Laramie and Salt Lake City is 1,000 feet lower than Denver. 
 

The altitude in Denver is very weak compared to Laramie. Between Salt Lake and Denver it is essentially close to the same thing. 
 

It won’t or shouldn’t affect anyone that much to be honest. It is a LOT worse playing at Wyoming than Denver as far as altitude goes. 
 

Chris Long who most of you should know played in the NFL and played at Denver multiple times. He also had to play a game in Laramie vs Wyoming. He talked about it this week. He said playing at altitude in Laramie is twice as hard as Denver and when he played it Wyoming it felt like hell but when he played in Denver it didn’t affect him at all and that Josh will be completely fine. 
 

If altitude was the end all be all then teams like Wyoming or Air Force in college football would never lose home games, while they win more than they lose they still lose plenty of games at home. Same goes for Denver. If it was that big of a deal then they would never lose at home. It is no more of a big deal than a team playing in hot humid weather or playing in cold weather. Sure there can be some affect but the game still comes down to who the best team that day is. And again Denver isn’t nearly as hard altitude wise as Wyoming plus they can have oxygen on the sideline if they need it. Buffalo will be fine. 
 

If Buffalo loses it definitely won’t be because of Denver’s weak altitude. It will be because Denver is better than Buffalo. 

[Simon]

1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said:

I remember moving there from WNY for a job in 1980 or so and going out to play basketball in the Washington Park gym one night.   i was in pretty good shape and I was shocked at how gassed I got after 30 min or so.    Just a random observation.   It is different.  

 

It's a weird, creepy feeling.

I know that every single time I go out West, the first two nights that I get out of the tent to go take a leak at night, when I get back in I can't go back to sleep because I'm breathing so loudly. And that's just from walking 20' to water the verge!

 

12 minutes ago, BillytheKid said:

that Josh will be completely fine. 

 

I'm not worried about Josh.

The DL is the unit that will likely be most affected.

[mannc]

5 hours ago, ryguy101 said:

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoffs/127778/buffalo-bills-altitude-of-denver-broncos-stadium-afc-playoffs-thin-air-stamina-oxygen

 

Josh played at Wyoming which is at even higher elevation.. Cole Bishop is used to it as well

 

Good article 

 

Do you think it will affect us?

The fact that Josh and Bishop played college ball at altitude is irrelevant.  They have been living at sea level for years…

[3rdand12]

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

It's a weird, creepy feeling.

I know that every single time I go out West, the first two nights that I get out of the tent to go take a leak at night, when I get back in I can't go back to sleep because I'm breathing so loudly. And that's just from walking 20' to water the verge!

 

 

I'm not worried about Josh.

The DL is the unit that will likely be most affected.

They have a rotation still right ?

Don't give Bosa 80% this game lol

[Fleezoid]

The Bills should have started at the Base Camp earlier in the week. They may have made it to Camp II by now.