BuffaloBillyG Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 minute ago, SoTier said: Your chances of success increase because an experienced HC actually has the skillset to be a HC. A coordinator may or may not. Also, typically once a guy has been around as long as Harbaugh, he got some really solid connections throughout the league. This helps when looking for coordinators, position coaches and such. They also have a lot of connections to players. Watch how many former Ravens end up on the Giants this year. 1 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, SoTier said: Your chances of success increase because an experienced HC actually has the skillset to be a HC. A coordinator may or may not. What does success mean? Where is there data that backs this up? Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 17 Posted January 17 4 hours ago, SoTier said: Your take is absurd. Not only is McDermott not getting "canned" if the Bills lose to the Broncos in their own house, but why are you assuming that he would want "total franchise control"? He seems to have no problem working in collaboration with Beane. Is there any actual evidence that McD wants "total franchise control" with the Bills or that he would want that elsewhere? I was responding directly to another post that made that proposition. Keep up or move aside. Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted January 17 Posted January 17 On 1/15/2026 at 10:39 AM, Mr. WEO said: Raiders, Titans, Dolphins and Falcons have no QB. McD had the best QB playing the game. Teams aren't going to hand over the Front Office and the budget to a guy who failed 8 years in a row to realize the potential of his current team. They will consider him to be Daboll 2.0. You don't think they know the reason the Bills dominate the Division is not because of the HC? What GM or owner cares if McDermott's team ended the playoff drought (9 years ago!) by backing into the playoffs where they promptly lost perhaps the worst playoff game by two of the worst playoff QBs ever? Jimmy Haslam? Amy Adams Strunk? Michael Bidwell? 😜 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted January 17 Posted January 17 On 1/14/2026 at 9:06 PM, Sierra Foothills said: The question is what this means for Joe Schoen. On 1/14/2026 at 10:14 PM, Sierra Foothills said: Minimally I feel like Harbaugh would want final say on most football matters. "O’Connor’s nugget is noteworthy because he has a pipeline to Giants exec Chris Mara, who told O’Connor on Monday about the Sunday informal lunch meeting with Harbaugh... Hovering over all of this is the question of whether and to what extent Harbaugh will be attempt to pry authority from Schoen. Harbaugh may want control over the roster. He may want final say over the draft. He may want Schoen to report to him. Harbaugh has all the leverage. He had plenty before it was leaked that he was close to a deal with the Giants. Two days later, he has even more. If this falls apart, the egg won’t be on his face. It’ll be on the Giants, who’ll be forced to pivot to a coach who will always be perceived as Plan B. It will become, to use a technical term, a shitshow. It sort of already is. Nearly 48 hours have passed since the reports emerged that Harbaugh and the Giants were closing in on a deal. The delay wouldn’t be happening if it wasn’t something big, because time is clearly of the essence — for everyone involved." https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-giants-john-harbaugh-are-working-through-organizational-and-operational-issues 1 Quote
Franchiseneedsme Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I think the deal is done with the Giants.....but he is holding out hope the Bills loose today and fire McDermott. If the Bills win today Harbaugh signs with Giants tomorrow. If not he's our new head coach 1 3 Quote
Chaos Posted January 17 Posted January 17 19 minutes ago, Franchiseneedsme said: I think the deal is done with the Giants.....but he is holding out hope the Bills loose today and fire McDermott. If the Bills win today Harbaugh signs with Giants tomorrow. If not he's our new head coach Harbaugh is the only other coach besides McDermott to have a top 5 QB on the roster and never advance to the super bowl with said QB. Literally the least logical choice to replace McDermott who is better than Harbaugh at getting to the playoffs at least. 2 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 17 Posted January 17 There was some chatter about the Packers trading Lefleur. Maybe Harbaugh is waiting to see Quote
boyst Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Imagine a Harbaugh being slimy and difficult? Wow. Hard to think a crap family would want to play games like this... Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 17 Posted January 17 24 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: There was some chatter about the Packers trading Lefleur. Maybe Harbaugh is waiting to see The only places I've seen chatter about him being traded has come from random fan accounts on X, fan message boards and such The real chatter has been they are extending him. This was talked about last week by Jay Glazer, Rap and others and by Schefty today. If Harbaugh is waiting it out over that it would be a monumentally stupid idea. 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted January 17 Posted January 17 When the John Harbaugh to the Giants story broke last Sunday, the immediate question was whether this was going to turn into a Trent Balke/Liam Coen situation. I think the Giants work it out with Harbaugh but I'm also surprised that the chain of command issues weren't resolved earlier. It's going on 6 days since Harbaugh and Mara had their informal meeting and 2 days since an agreement was reported. Quote
zow2 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 I'm having an off and on debate with a friend of mine who insists Jaxson Dart will be a failure of an NFL QB. He thinks Dart might be serviceable for a couple seasons but doesn't see anything special in the guy, and his reckless style and cocky nature will end his days as a starter sooner than later. I think Dart is decent and it will be interesting to see if Harbaugh can elevate his game? Offseason question for the group, if both guys are starters for the next 3 seasons or so, who turns out to be the better QB....Jaxson Dart or JJ McCarthy? Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 13 Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, zow2 said: I'm having an off and on debate with a friend of mine who insists Jaxson Dart will be a failure of an NFL QB. He thinks Dart might be serviceable for a couple seasons but doesn't see anything special in the guy, and his reckless style and cocky nature will end his days as a starter sooner than later. I think Dart is decent and it will be interesting to see if Harbaugh can elevate his game? Offseason question for the group, if both guys are starters for the next 3 seasons or so, who turns out to be the better QB....Jaxson Dart or JJ McCarthy? Dart, easily IMO. McCarthy may end up sacking groceries in the next 3 years. I think Dart can and probably will settle in in the middle of the pack of starting QBs. 1 Quote
CA OC Bills Fan Posted February 13 Posted February 13 21 minutes ago, zow2 said: I'm having an off and on debate with a friend of mine who insists Jaxson Dart will be a failure of an NFL QB. He thinks Dart might be serviceable for a couple seasons but doesn't see anything special in the guy, and his reckless style and cocky nature will end his days as a starter sooner than later. I think Dart is decent and it will be interesting to see if Harbaugh can elevate his game? Offseason question for the group, if both guys are starters for the next 3 seasons or so, who turns out to be the better QB....Jaxson Dart or JJ McCarthy? Dart 1 Quote
Mailman Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, CA OC Bills Fan said: Dart Dart. McCarthy is a*s 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted February 13 Posted February 13 On 1/16/2026 at 3:51 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: Also, typically once a guy has been around as long as Harbaugh, he got some really solid connections throughout the league. This helps when looking for coordinators, position coaches and such. They also have a lot of connections to players. Watch how many former Ravens end up on the Giants this year. Funny enough, it was Tomlin and Harbaugh's long tenures that were discussed as a main reason why they've had such trouble recently in filling the coordinator spots with good coaches. Being in that spot for so long, they lost their networks. Didn't have a pulse on the pipeline of young, fresh coaches. The thought with Tomlin is, take a year off from coaching, do some broadcast stuff where part of the job is going and meeting with all different players and coaches from different teams, and possibly rebuild that network. 1 Quote
zow2 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 21 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Dart, easily IMO. McCarthy may end up sacking groceries in the next 3 years. I think Dart can and probably will settle in in the middle of the pack of starting QBs. Yeah I agree... Dart just needs to chill on the tough guy QB stuff. This ain't Ole Miss. Slide or get out of bounds. But as we know, tough to coach that out of a guy. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, zow2 said: Yeah I agree... Dart just needs to chill on the tough guy QB stuff. This ain't Ole Miss. Slide or get out of bounds. But as we know, tough to coach that out of a guy. I mean it's really not different than Josh his first couple of years. Maybe getting Daboll out of the building was smart for the kid's career longevity. 13 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Funny enough, it was Tomlin and Harbaugh's long tenures that were discussed as a main reason why they've had such trouble recently in filling the coordinator spots with good coaches. Being in that spot for so long, they lost their networks. Didn't have a pulse on the pipeline of young, fresh coaches. The thought with Tomlin is, take a year off from coaching, do some broadcast stuff where part of the job is going and meeting with all different players and coaches from different teams, and possibly rebuild that network. Agree. And I think we saw the same thing here with McDermott. He really didn't come in with huge ties and his promotions were mainly from within. I don't think he had the professional ties to reach out for those hot coordinators that would be sought after. Over his time here I was actually kind of surprised he didn't pluck from Andy Reid and the Chiefs a bit. Quote
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