Sierra Foothills Posted January 15 Posted January 15 24 minutes ago, ticketssince61 said: and a woman! I thought I read where Harbaugh identifies as non-binary. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 15 Posted January 15 23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: not without a Lombardy on his resume. Zero chance. If we fired him Monday morning, if he wanted he would have a HC job by Monday night if he wanted. Teams like the Raiders, Titans, Falcons, Dolphins would kill for a coach with his success of turning a trash franchise into a contender year after year. McDermott may not be perfect. And maybe at this point he's gone as far with the Bills as he can take them. Both fair to think. But he's still been pretty successful. 2 3 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 15 Posted January 15 24 minutes ago, Big Turk said: BS...a team mired in terrible years is going to look at what he did breaking the 17 year playoff drought in Buffalo and how quickly he made them into a winner, his overall record, his consistency and hire him very quickly. The obvious difference, again, is that Harbaugh has that SB trophy, whereas, if fired Monday, McD would be known as the guy who squandered Josh Allen's Bills chances at same.. 10 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: If we fired him Monday morning, if he wanted he would have a HC job by Monday night if he wanted. Teams like the Raiders, Titans, Falcons, Dolphins would kill for a coach with his success of turning a trash franchise into a contender year after year. McDermott may not be perfect. And maybe at this point he's gone as far with the Bills as he can take them. Both fair to think. But he's still been pretty successful. Raiders, Titans, Dolphins and Falcons have no QB. McD had the best QB playing the game. Teams aren't going to hand over the Front Office and the budget to a guy who failed 8 years in a row to realize the potential of his current team. They will consider him to be Daboll 2.0. You don't think they know the reason the Bills dominate the Division is not because of the HC? What GM or owner cares if his team ended the playoff drought (9 years ago!) by backing into the playoffs where they promptly lost perhaps the worst playoff game by two of the worst playoff QBs ever? 1 1 2 Quote
Mister Defense Posted January 15 Posted January 15 One of the more humorous things I heard someone say about this hiring was that the Giants were not that bad this year, not as bad as their record, as they often were leading but blew leads. But now that Harbuagh was The Man there, that would change.They would now win those games. Huh? No team in the NFL has blown more 4th quarter leads in the last 3 years than the Baltimore Raveens--one of the most talented teams in the NFL during this period. So now, King Harbaugh will help a dramatically less talented and experienced team in the Giants finish games correctly??? With his sky is falling demeanor as soon as any adversity hits his team?? He looks like he is going to start crying on the sidelines, as 'all is lost now'. Makes zero sense. None. But these shows and analysts continue to paint Harbaugh, to me very lacking coach now, as the second coming. He will not be. I think it was Dan Orlovsky who said this on ESPN? That surprised me as usually he does not just shoot from the hip, but can back up his analysis. Extremely bad analysis here with no base in facts at all, the opposite of that. 1 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 15 Posted January 15 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The obvious difference, again, is that Harbaugh has that SB trophy, whereas, if fired Monday, McD would be known as the guy who squandered Josh Allen's Bills chances at same.. Raiders, Titans, Dolphins and Falcons have no QB. McD had the best QB playing the game. Teams aren't going to hand over the Front Office and the budget to a guy who failed 8 years in a row to realize the potential of his current team. They will consider him to be Daboll 2.0. You don't think they know the reason the Bills dominate the Division is not because of the HC? What GM or owner cares if his team ended the playoff drought (9 years ago!) by backing into the playoffs where they promptly lost perhaps the worst playoff game by two of the worst playoff QBs ever? Does Blake Bortels still cause you nightmares? 2 Quote
DrBob806 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Exactly--look what he did with the 2 time MVP in the playoffs! lol Yeah I'm not so sure John Harbaugh is "it," but we shall soon find out. Henry only had 5 carries after halftime vs Pittsburgh in the winner-take-the AFC North game. 107 yards at half. That doesn't sound like good coaching to me. The Ratbirds under achieved for several seasons. 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: The obvious difference, again, is that Harbaugh has that SB trophy, whereas, if fired Monday, McD would be known as the guy who squandered Josh Allen's Bills chances at same.. Raiders, Titans, Dolphins and Falcons have no QB. McD had the best QB playing the game. Teams aren't going to hand over the Front Office and the budget to a guy who failed 8 years in a row to realize the potential of his current team. They will consider him to be Daboll 2.0. You don't think they know the reason the Bills dominate the Division is not because of the HC? What GM or owner cares if his team ended the playoff drought (9 years ago!) by backing into the playoffs where they promptly lost perhaps the worst playoff game by two of the worst playoff QBs ever? He also made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and after they traded most of their "good" players to the point everyone thought they were tanking...or have you conveniently forgotten that? 3 Quote
finn Posted January 15 Posted January 15 14 hours ago, Stads said: Harbaugh is Black, Native American, and Hispanic. I think we're good And female. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Giants have some good defensive pieces, a rising talent at QB, a top 10 talent at WR and an explosive young RB to go with a solid TE room. Add in good draft picks this draft too, and it was the best opening in football outside the Ravens. Good hire for Giants and great spot to land for Harbaugh. A strong offseason and they get their weapons back healthy to start the season and can be close to form out the gate, Giants have a legit shot at the postseason in that division next year. Giants are on the best trajectory in that division right now - if Dart keeps ascending, they could take the division over inside the next 1-3 seasons. Eagles have peaked IMO and cap is gonna start changing that team soon, Dallas is well still Dallas, and Washington isn’t a great team with lots of major question marks. 1 Quote
Gregg Posted January 15 Posted January 15 17 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Giants have some good defensive pieces, a rising talent at QB, a top 10 talent at WR and an explosive young RB to go with a solid TE room. Add in good draft picks this draft too, and it was the best opening in football outside the Ravens. Good hire for Giants and great spot to land for Harbaugh. A strong offseason and they get their weapons back healthy to start the season and can be close to form out the gate, Giants have a legit shot at the postseason in that division next year. Giants are on the best trajectory in that division right now - if Dart keeps ascending, they could take the division over inside the next 1-3 seasons. Eagles have peaked IMO and cap is gonna start changing that team soon, Dallas is well still Dallas, and Washington isn’t a great team with lots of major question marks. If Dallas can fix the defense, then the Giants aren't finishing ahead of them next year. It remains to been seen if the Cowboys can fix their defense. After the regular season Jerry was quoted as saying they will. We shall see. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 15 Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, Gregg said: If Dallas can fix the defense, then the Giants aren't finishing ahead of them next year. It remains to been seen if the Cowboys can fix their defense. After the regular season Jerry was quoted as saying they will. We shall see. Havent the Cowboys been saying that for about 3 years now? And their big move was trading away Parsons 😆 2 Quote
Gregg Posted January 15 Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Havent the Cowboys been saying that for about 3 years now? And their big move was trading away Parsons 😆 Jerry should probably hire a GM at this point instead of trying to do the job himself. But that won't happen either given he has an ego the size of Texas. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 15 Posted January 15 2 hours ago, DrBob806 said: Yeah I'm not so sure John Harbaugh is "it," but we shall soon find out. Henry only had 5 carries after halftime vs Pittsburgh in the winner-take-the AFC North game. 107 yards at half. That doesn't sound like good coaching to me. The Ratbirds under achieved for several seasons. I don’t believe in his greatness. But that’s not we are talking about. 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: He also made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and after they traded most of their "good" players to the point everyone thought they were tanking...or have you conveniently forgotten that? tanking?? Come on Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gregg said: If Dallas can fix the defense, then the Giants aren't finishing ahead of them next year. It remains to been seen if the Cowboys can fix their defense. After the regular season Jerry was quoted as saying they will. We shall see. I have little faith in that Dallas organization and front office to get out of the purgatory they perpetually find themselves in. Pats went from last to first in a division with a real powerhouse in it in the 2nd year of a promising QB with less talent collectively than the Giants have. Bears just over took Lions and GB in their QBs second season on the back of a major coaching upgrade too. Giants themselves just got a major upgrade in coaching, if they can have a strong off season then I wouldn’t underestimate what the Giants can do in that division next year. There is actually quite a bit of talent within that roster, but the major keys will be does Dart take a step forward to build in a rookie campaign that showed promise and can their young weapons bounce back from the injuries this year. Edited January 15 by Alphadawg7 2 Quote
billsfan89 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 16 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: This is what I expected he gets a first round quarterback with a little bit of experience and talent.. but he doesn't have to rely on drafting someone He has a pass rusher who went top five And the Giants will give him a couple years to build If Harbaugh likes Dart then this is a pretty good place to be. They have a high draft pick, lots of pieces to work with on the roster (Dart second year QB, Good D-line, elite WR in Nabers, some other pieces scattered around the roster) and while their cap isn't great they can open up some space to grab a few pieces in 2026 and then have a much better situation in 2027. There's also going to be patience there and I think even if Harbaugh wins 6-7 games in 2026 there's going to be very little pressure. 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The obvious difference, again, is that Harbaugh has that SB trophy, whereas, if fired Monday, McD would be known as the guy who squandered Josh Allen's Bills chances at same.. Raiders, Titans, Dolphins and Falcons have no QB. McD had the best QB playing the game. Teams aren't going to hand over the Front Office and the budget to a guy who failed 8 years in a row to realize the potential of his current team. They will consider him to be Daboll 2.0. You don't think they know the reason the Bills dominate the Division is not because of the HC? What GM or owner cares if his team ended the playoff drought (9 years ago!) by backing into the playoffs where they promptly lost perhaps the worst playoff game by two of the worst playoff QBs ever? I think other franchises value mcd much more highly than this board does on average…to go one further, the same applies to Joe Brady who several teams are probably taking a close look at right now and one will probably end up with as a HC Are these other teams correct thinking this way? maybe not. You could be right that they should be scrutinizing every thing you mention. I’m pretty confident mcd would be Harbaugh-level sought after if the bills lost to the jags and fired him though whether we think it’s warranted or not. Not sure he’d be seen as Daboll at all…Daboll likely went down as a good X’s and O’s guy that didn’t have the people/leadership skills to run a franchise and he’ll get another chance as an OC. That’s objectively not Mcd’s situation harbaugh’s Super Bowl trophy was earned off the back of probably one of the greatest Super Bowl runs by a qb of all time…idk why people are so hung up on what the QBs last name was vs Andrew Luck’s colts…really solid game 282 yards 2 Tds defense would’ve allowed for worse though vs Mannings broncos…absolute heater bailed out his defense giving up 35. 331 passing yards 3TDs. Double OT classic vs Tom Brady’s Pats…really solid game 3tds 0 ints 240 passing yards. Defense probably would’ve allowed for a bit worse game from Flacco vs the Kaepernick niners…absolute heater again bailing out his defense giving up 31. 287 passing yards 3 tds…the running game averaged 2.7 ypc. It was all on Flacco to be perfect not sure what side of the ball Harbaugh is even associated with in people’s minds (I think he’s special teams technically) but his qb had to absolutely carry them twice in that run.. if Flacco wasn’t close to perfect they woulda been out in the divisional. Edited January 15 by Generic_Bills_Fan 2 1 Quote
jkeerie Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: If Harbaugh likes Dart then this is a pretty good place to be. They have a high draft pick, lots of pieces to work with on the roster (Dart second year QB, Good D-line, elite WR in Nabers, some other pieces scattered around the roster) and while their cap isn't great they can open up some space to grab a few pieces in 2026 and then have a much better situation in 2027. There's also going to be patience there and I think even if Harbaugh wins 6-7 games in 2026 there's going to be very little pressure. I think Harbaugh really appreciates Dart's toughness...unlike his previous QB. Quote
SoTier Posted January 15 Posted January 15 3 hours ago, Gregg said: Jerry should probably hire a GM at this point instead of trying to do the job himself. But that won't happen either given he has an ego the size of Texas. Jerry is the problem with the Cowboys today, and has been the problem since he fired Jimmy Johnson. 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted January 15 Posted January 15 I predict he washes out of NY in 2 years. About the same time his brother washes out of LA Quote
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