Kirby Jackson Posted January 15 Posted January 15 20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I think we can all agree that drafting well fixes most, if not all, of your cap space issues. This past year’s class was almost a completely lost year with the exception of a half season from Max and a few flashes from Walker up front. They simply cannot have that happen in 2026. This is certainly the easiest way to get ahead of it. I know FA comes before the draft so this example isn’t perfect but it’ll make the point. Use WR as an example. Say that the Bills used a 3rd round pick on Chimere ***** instead of Landon Jackson. Having ***** would prevent you from having an $11M cap hit on Josh Palmer. You’d get the same production (more actually) PLUS $10M of cap space. The best way, imo, to manage the cap is to let role players walk and replace them in the draft. Sign stars and top of the roster players to big deals. You should never have $20+M of cap space allocated to Samuel & Palmer. For that same cap space you could have Justin Jefferson, Chimere ***** AND $4M of space (or something like that). Don’t spend on the middle of your roster. Do not use FA to buy role players looking for a big raise. Unless you’re really undermanned somewhere or see a potential star (like Poyer at the time) resist. You don’t need to spend on guys like Taylor Rapp when there are guys like Darnell Savage out there that can give your similar play for a fraction of the cost. 1 1 Quote
FireChans Posted January 15 Posted January 15 10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: This is certainly the easiest way to get ahead of it. I know FA comes before the draft so this example isn’t perfect but it’ll make the point. Use WR as an example. Say that the Bills used a 3rd round pick on Chimere ***** instead of Landon Jackson. Having ***** would prevent you from having an $11M cap hit on Josh Palmer. You’d get the same production (more actually) PLUS $10M of cap space. The best way, imo, to manage the cap is to let role players walk and replace them in the draft. Sign stars and top of the roster players to big deals. You should never have $20+M of cap space allocated to Samuel & Palmer. For that same cap space you could have Justin Jefferson, Chimere ***** AND $4M of space (or something like that). Don’t spend on the middle of your roster. Do not use FA to buy role players looking for a big raise. Unless you’re really undermanned somewhere or see a potential star (like Poyer at the time) resist. You don’t need to spend on guys like Taylor Rapp when there are guys like Darnell Savage out there that can give your similar play for a fraction of the cost. Sheesh bro, stop cursing. 40 minutes ago, eball said: I’ll get eyerolls for this, but it amuses me that fans get SO into salary cap discussions and whatnot, knowing there isn’t a damn thing any one of us can do about it and that Beane isn’t reading this forum for advice. Whatever happens happens, and we will all still root for the guys wearing our team’s laundry. Carry on! It’s probably more about having as educated of an opinion as possible. Which matters to some folks when discussing their favorite team. How would you respond to a topic that says “the Bills suck!!! They should have traded for Myles Garrett, Justin Jefferson, Jeffrey Simmons and Micah Parsons!” You would say that’s a silly opinion and rightfully so. Because it’s not in the realm of possibility. It’s the same thing when it comes to the salary cap. It’s good to know what is possible and what isn’t possible and use that to paint our opinions accordingly, despite none of us having control of the outcome. 2 1 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted January 15 Posted January 15 4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: My guess is Beane will need to use the draft and potentially trade up to get a quality one. Going with the draft for a WR1 is way too risky IMO (see K Coleman). The draft is often looked at building for the future - they need a WR1 for 2026! Plus Beane said he was already trying to get a big fish in Waddle, for less money he could probably get M Evans or J Jennings with no draft capital spent at all. Seems to me that Beane sees the WR room problem and will address it pronto. 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I think we can all agree that drafting well fixes most, if not all, of your cap space issues. This past year’s class was almost a completely lost year with the exception of a half season from Max and a few flashes from Walker up front. They simply cannot have that happen in 2026. Once again, the draft is generally for the future. And this years draft will supply future year players (Hairston, Hawes, etc). The problem we are facing this year is with the wiff on FA WR acquisitions - Palmer and Samuel mostly. This can be fixed if Beane hits this year (M Evans and MHJ work for me). Quote
RyanC883 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 10 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Not after he's Super Bowl MVP. him being SB MVP would be a Bills type thing...him or Coleman wouldn't care though, cause we won ! Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 15 Posted January 15 They can create a ton of space with restructures. Somewhere in the ballpark of $50M could be available if they do all the moves they can. I've never been a big "pull every lever" guy, but it feels like this is the year to do it. We fell behind the Patriots in the division. We have to go all out this off season IMO. Playoffs aren't a promise with them being better now. If they do all the restructures they can and a few good cuts (looking at you Samuel and Palmer), set the contracts up wisely, and yes everyone's favorite...add void years to some deals they can add quite a bit of talent. Yes I understand what it does to the future cap. No, I don't care what our cap looks like in 2030. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: They can create a ton of space with restructures. Somewhere in the ballpark of $50M could be available if they do all the moves they can. I've never been a big "pull every lever" guy, but it feels like this is the year to do it. We fell behind the Patriots in the division. We have to go all out this off season IMO. Playoffs aren't a promise with them being better now. If they do all the restructures they can and a few good cuts (looking at you Samuel and Palmer), set the contracts up wisely, and yes everyone's favorite...add void years to some deals they can add quite a bit of talent. Yes I understand what it does to the future cap. No, I don't care what our cap looks like in 2030. You’re stuck with Palmer another year. I thinks it’s cheaper to keep him. 1 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: This is certainly the easiest way to get ahead of it. I know FA comes before the draft so this example isn’t perfect but it’ll make the point. Use WR as an example. Say that the Bills used a 3rd round pick on Chimere ***** instead of Landon Jackson. Having ***** would prevent you from having an $11M cap hit on Josh Palmer. You’d get the same production (more actually) PLUS $10M of cap space. The best way, imo, to manage the cap is to let role players walk and replace them in the draft. Sign stars and top of the roster players to big deals. You should never have $20+M of cap space allocated to Samuel & Palmer. For that same cap space you could have Justin Jefferson, Chimere ***** AND $4M of space (or something like that). Don’t spend on the middle of your roster. Do not use FA to buy role players looking for a big raise. Unless you’re really undermanned somewhere or see a potential star (like Poyer at the time) resist. You don’t need to spend on guys like Taylor Rapp when there are guys like Darnell Savage out there that can give your similar play for a fraction of the cost. what are your thoughts about keeping Knox around. He seems slightly better than a "middle" guy and is often our TE1 because of Kincaid injuries, but I'm not sure we want to be giving a raise. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: You’re stuck with Palmer another year. I thinks it’s cheaper to keep him. Palmer as a post June 1st cut leaves a hair over $6.4M in dead cap but opens $5.3M in cap space. I really can see it going either way with him. Probably Beane keeps him and chalks up his poor production to injuries. He tends to put a lot of faith in players rebounding from injury. Sometimes he's right (Spencer Brown). Health may play a factor. So would finding a true WR1 and WR2 so he's a bit back to where he should be...WR3 or 4. I can see value in keeping him in that role. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted January 15 Posted January 15 6 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: what are your thoughts about keeping Knox around. He seems slightly better than a "middle" guy and is often our TE1 because of Kincaid injuries, but I'm not sure we want to be giving a raise. I think he will be here on an extension. He certainly won’t be back on a $17M cap hit or whatever it is. 2 Quote
Lost Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: For that same cap space you could have Justin Jefferson, Chimere ***** AND $4M of space Who is Chimere ***** ? Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted January 15 Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, Lost said: Who is Chimere ***** ? 🤣🤣 Titans….it blanks it out so you’ll have to google him Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 15 Posted January 15 4 hours ago, Pete said: My guess is that David Edward’s is the first OL extended. I’ve heard players speak about how great Edward’s is at communicating. Edward’s is smart, recognizes blitz packages, lets everyone know their assignments. Josh always goes left on Tush Pushes. Edward’s I believe was Marino’s highest graded Bills OL. I agree it’s McGoverns last year. SVG will be our next center. If Marino graded Edwards as their best OL, I am not sure what he is looking at. There have been a ton of head scratching moments from him this season. He will likely be the cheaper of the two options, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they do bring him back. He has been fine, but replaceable . The position itself just isn’t that hard to find serviceable play. 12 minutes ago, Lost said: Who is Chimere ***** ? It is pronounced Dee-Kay spelled dee-eye-Kay-E Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Offer that to Rodgers and I bet he'll change his mind about retiring... 🤔 Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 15 Posted January 15 52 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: oing with the draft for a WR1 is way too risky IMO (see K Coleman). The draft is often looked at building for the future - they need a WR1 for 2026! With Kincaid, Cook and Shakir all under contract for the next two years, paying 1 big playmaker makes sense to me. I think despite being in the dog house, Palmer and Coleman will both be back to add depth to the room. I think they are fine for WR3 and 5, and you can also draft a mid-round guy. Pay for Pickens, trade for Waddle or another vested baller, and take a swing on a developmental guy. They will continue to be dangerous in 2026 2 Quote
Big Turk Posted January 15 Posted January 15 They will figure out a way to make things happen like they always do. 1 Quote
nosejob Posted January 15 Posted January 15 13 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Bass, Rapp, Samuel are for sure getting cut in my opinion. Knox something is getting done there whether it’s extension , paycut, or release. I’d probably say extension is likely that lowers his cap significantly. I think both McGovern and Edwards are about to bank in Free Agency either with the Bills or someone else. Alec Anderson is taking one of those spots and either a draft pick or SVPG will be starting at the other in my opinion. Taron Johnson is the big one. In my opinion they will ask him to take a paycut this offseason , if he refuses that situation will get interesting. This is as far as I want to see them go. Keep as much as possible intact... including RVD and Grable. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: They will figure out a way to make things happen like they always do. Beane: "We traded Shakir for future considerations, and sent a blanket invitation to the CFL for all willing and able WRs to attend open tryouts." Quote
Big Turk Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Beane: "We traded Shakir for future considerations, and sent a blanket invitation to the CFL for all willing and able WRs to attend open tryouts." Highly unlikely Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted January 15 Posted January 15 6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: I’m not ready to throw in the towel on this years Defensive Draft just yet. Granted, you can count on one hand the amount of games the rookies started, but they came with high pedigree. I hope/believe we’ll see significant improvement by July. 4 hours ago, Pete said: TJ, Walker, Max, Jordan, Dorian all flashed. Next season they will have a season of getting their reps in, learning the NFL. IMO they all improve next season, if they can stay healthy. it’s good thing that the last draft, the D got a youth infusion, getting younger and faster. It’s the offense’s turn. I want 3 new, above average, outside WR 1-2-3 WRs at the very least, please. Then they can spend every other $ and draft pick on D. Just get WR 1-2-3- Get It Done, Beane! Hopefully the Cole Bishop development is a reminder that players can make a big impact in their 2nd seasons. 32 minutes ago, Lost said: Who is Chimere ***** ? 1 Quote
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