eball Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Falling for the Cowherd clickbait again I see... The guy knows he can get Buffalo fans riled up, and he plays that card every chance he has. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 25 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, we should have had better stats because that Broncos team and Wilson were historically bad. We could way too many Cover-0 blitzes which werent working and let them stay in it. Sean called a really bad time out to ice the kicker, which worked against us as he missed the first one. Then coming out of the time out, we had 12 guys on the field and gave them 5 yards to help make the FG. If the Coach just stays out of the way instead of punching himself in the balls multiple times, we win that game. I get what you're saying but on the 12 men on the field that's historically the special teams coordinator job to get everybody ready It's usually the special teams coordinator counting the 11 heads and sending them out... I do understand about some of the less than ideal defensive play calls Quote
Mikie2times Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Wow. Talk about an inflated view of Payton and total disrespect to McD. also, what coaching does DeMeco Ryans do? Trots a defense out on the field with like 5 All-Pros, and plays man coverage 100% of the time. I’d love to see what he would do coaching a team featuring Andre Jones and Phil Mathis on his DLine. When has he not had a dominating defense and should we assume he had no part in acquiring that talent? Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 14 Posted January 14 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I get what you're saying but on the 12 men on the field that's historically the special teams coordinator job to get everybody ready It's usually the special teams coordinator counting the 11 heads and sending them out... I do understand about some of the less than ideal defensive play calls Just like getting the squib call to the kicker was the previous ST coach's job, but we already had fired him for that. 😆 I could even blame Leonard Floyd who should have known better as an experienced vet. But as you know, the buck stops at the HC on all those details. Multiple levels of failure/mistakes point up to one guy. I expect better than that from McD, and I'm confident we'll get it on Sunday. (or else, lol) Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 38 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, we should have had better stats because that Broncos team and Wilson were historically bad. We could way too many Cover-0 blitzes which werent working and let them stay in it. Sean called a really bad time out to ice the kicker, which worked against us as he missed the first one. Then coming out of the time out, we had 12 guys on the field and gave them 5 yards to help make the FG. If the Coach just stays out of the way instead of punching himself in the balls multiple times, we win that game. That was a weird month or so for the broncos lol felt like they went on a crazy run of turnover luck and won a bunch in a row. I think they had just wrecked the chiefs before that bills game Quote
MJS Posted January 14 Posted January 14 56 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Davis Mills, Zach Wilson, Easton Stick and others tend to disagree as they've all had career days against the Bills. But in all seriousness, I do agree. McD should be able to own a QB like Bo Nix. He did last year in our 31-7 routing. I'm expecting more of the same from McD/Babich. Yes, there have been exceptions to the rule, as there always are. The Bills also beat the Tom Brady led Patriots a handful of times. Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 14 Posted January 14 22 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: When has he not had a dominating defense and should we assume he had no part in acquiring that talent? Good point. I suspect Ryans had a big influence on them getting Al Shaair, since he was a nobody and Ryans had coached him in San Fran. that said, the Texans two best players on D were the No 3 overall picks in the draft and consensus top 5 picks. So not sure there was rocket science behind those picks. Quote
US Egg Posted January 14 Posted January 14 53 minutes ago, Augie said: Cowherd got us talking about something he said. He will call this a win. He’s been a bit overboard on this topic, to the point that I think he may have learned something from his little sidekick Nick Wright, say anything to rile up Bills fans. It’s good for business. Kind of amazing how these guys repeatedly land ‘em with same bait. Quote
BillsVet Posted January 14 Posted January 14 3 hours ago, GerstAusGosheim said: Transcript from the Herd yesterday... "The Matchups for this weekends NFL playoffs, here’s what I see. I see Vrabel against DeMeco Ryans… McVay against Ben Johnson… Shanny, Mike MacDonald… Sean Payton against…Josh Allen, let’s be honest. In 7 of the 8, I see the coach." This weekend is about the coaches... For NE, HOU, DEN, CHI, even SEA those HC's need to game-plan to minimize mistakes their young and/or unproven playoff QBs could make. Shanahan and McVay get listed because their QB doesn't need to be game-planned around. And, they're offensively talented. McD is the only one who neither features, as a HC, no offensive advantage in game-planning nor has to minimize his QB's mistakes. Josh gets mentioned because he's the greatest offensive weapon in the game today. Quote
Mikie2times Posted January 14 Posted January 14 13 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Good point. I suspect Ryans had a big influence on them getting Al Shaair, since he was a nobody and Ryans had coached him in San Fran. that said, the Texans two best players on D were the No 3 overall picks in the draft and consensus top 5 picks. So not sure there was rocket science behind those picks. All I'm really saying here is there is no evidence the guy doesn't run a solid system/program. His PPG was 9th in 2021 and 1st 2022 with 49ers, then 11th, 14th, and 1st with the Texans. All three years making the playoffs with Houston of a 3-13 year prior. His defenses are psychotically aggressive and physical. I'm sure at least some of what we are seeing comes from him and not just talent. 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Is this the same Sean Paton with a lower overall winning percentage than McD even though he had probably the top QB in the NFC all those years and even managed to have a few losing seasons thrown in there too. If the Bills do win Saturday, Payton may then be the only coach to ever twice have the #1 overall seed and the bye and lose their first game. Quote
Captain Murica Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I’m all for hating on McDermott but he’s better than Payton. Sean Payton had three consecutive seasons of 7-9 with drew brees. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Is this the same Sean Paton with a lower overall winning percentage than McD even though he had probably the top QB in the NFC all those years and even managed to have a few losing seasons thrown in there too. If the Bills do win Saturday, Payton may then be the only coach to ever twice have the #1 overall seed and the bye and lose their first game. John harbaugh and Tony dungy I believe have 2 loses as #1 seed losing first matchup Edited January 14 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
BeyondTheProcess Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Cow-turd is setting up his anti-McD content in the event the Bills lose. He's ready to deliver his "McD can't get it done, even with JA, blah blah blah", or "Bills win, despite McD". ,,,,, his job is to create content, but we've heard it a hundred times. Like Tomlin, McD is a calm, dedicated, Christian man who also works to build young men, and the media wants giant outspoken, WWE-type ex-player they can splash all over the screen. It's all about content creation, and McD doesn't play into any narrative the media types are interested in. 1 Quote
chris heff Posted January 15 Posted January 15 18 hours ago, folz said: I'm not saying that Payton isn't a very good coach (he is), but... Payton with Drew Brees as his QB: 15 years together. Yes, they won one Super Bowl, but they also missed the playoffs 6 of 15 years. If we missed the playoffs one year with Josh as our QB, many of you guys would go insane. They made 3 NFC Championship games and 1 Super Bowl in 15 years together. And the Saints also had some last-second heart-breaking playoff losses (and coaching mistakes over those years.). Not to mention that Payton also presided over bountygate. McDermott has made two AFC Championships in 7 years with Josh for comparison (all he would need to match/surpass Payton would be one Super Bowl run over the next 8 years with Josh as his QB). If Josh and McDermott were together for 15 years and won one SB (their only SB appearance), and also missed the playoffs 6 times over that span, yes you would be happy with the SB, but for the next 20 years we would hear that with a better coach, Josh would have won 5 SBs. McD wasted his career, even though they got one. Yet somehow, Payton is a genius and far superior.. McDermott's win% with Josh: .674 Payton's win% with Brees: .615 McDermott's playoff appearances w/Josh: 7 of 8 years (87.5% of the time) Payton's playoff appearances with Brees: 9 of 15 years (60% of the time) McDermott got Josh as a raw rookie with a depleted roster. Payton got Brees as a 6th-year player with a pro bowl already under his belt (Saints were 8-8 the year before Payton took over and Brees arrived). Payton and McD have faced each other four times as head coaches, splitting the games. Each with a 2-2 record vs. the other (with McD owning their one playoff matchup). My gut tells me that you guys severely underestimate McDermott, while overestimating Payton at the same time. This is not a lopsided coaching battle. The only reason McD is the only coach not mentioned in the OP is because no other playoff team has a QB like Josh (not because he is the worst coach in the playoffs). I was just going to post this, thanks. Quote
GerstAusGosheim Posted January 15 Author Posted January 15 16 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Just like getting the squib call to the kicker was the previous ST coach's job, but we already had fired him for that. 😆 Except that he wasn't fired. His contract was up and he took the same job in Jacksonville. And it's been said that he was so upset that Sean meddled with the call (see communication breakdown), that he actually chose to leave. Quote
KHAN Posted January 15 Posted January 15 19 hours ago, GerstAusGosheim said: Transcript from the Herd yesterday... "The Matchups for this weekends NFL playoffs, here’s what I see. I see Vrabel against DeMeco Ryans… McVay against Ben Johnson… Shanny, Mike MacDonald… Sean Payton against…Josh Allen, let’s be honest. In 7 of the 8, I see the coach." This weekend is about the coaches... You lost me at "The Herd" Dude is a clown. 1 Quote
chris heff Posted January 15 Posted January 15 17 hours ago, uticaclub said: The defense couldn’t stop Burrow and Lamar figured it out in the 2nd half last year. If their TE doesn’t have those drops, we lose Yeah Andrews dropped it, but do you think that with 1.30+ and two timeouts that Josh may have driven them to a game winning walk off FG? Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 15 Posted January 15 19 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Wow. Talk about an inflated view of Payton and total disrespect to McD. also, what coaching does DeMeco Ryans do? Trots a defense out on the field with like 5 All-Pros, and plays man coverage 100% of the time. I’d love to see what he would do coaching a team featuring Andre Jones and Phil Mathis on his DLine. They have 2 high picks on there defense with Anderson and Stingley everyone else we could've drafted or signed ourselves. I was begging for the Bills to draft Pitre over Elam . Lassiter was drafted in the middle rounds of the draft . Al Shair and Hunter were free agent signings. Got to give credit to there GM and Ryans for building that monster defense. 1 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted January 15 Posted January 15 11 minutes ago, chris heff said: Yeah Andrews dropped it, but do you think that with 1.30+ and two timeouts that Josh may have driven them to a game winning walk off FG? Certainly possible, but the Bills were flat that 2nd half. Ravens outgained us by a lot that game & had all the momentum. I am grateful for the turnovers and drops that allowed us to win that game Quote
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