NeverOutNick Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Sierra Foothills said: I couldn't care less who we have to beat in the AFCCG. Jacksonville was tough. Denver's gonna be tough. After that it's easy street. 100% agree 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted January 13 Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Was it Tomlin or Khan's call to bring in Rodgers, a call by the Rooney's, or a joint decision? From my friends, it's been a desperate attempt with Wilson and Rodgers to just keep making the playoffs and keep adding to the winning record streak for Tomlin. They should of blew it up after Big Ben retired. I agree with them. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 13 Posted January 13 19 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Does Tomlin survive this one? just bought himself 3 more years. ”The Rooneys don’t fire coaches”… because they are idiots. But the money is good, so…no one cares in that owners suite. They stopped pretending they were building a SB contender once Big Ben retired. The NFL is so lucrative that ultimate success is not in any connected to earnings. You just trot out a team and count the money. 1 Quote
Mod_Squad_Reject Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Rogers just looks old, they went from the fry pan to the fire. Quote
Sojourner Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Does Tomlin survive this one? Think he’s a decent coach but his lack of foresight to plan for Big Ben’s retirement with an actual talent rather than Landry Jones, Joshua Dobbs and Mason Rudolph is wild. Rudolph was pretty decent in college but you had 4 season to figure out if he was a candidate to be the guy. Instead they went into full scramble mode when Ben retired and drafted Kenny Pickett way over his projection. The above and the fact they’ve gone 9 seasons without a playoff win, going 0-7 since making the AFCC in 2016 has to be a glaring blemish. That’s some serious waste of time of a franchise and some quality HoF talent over that same period. Probably not, if he does end up out of a job I would be it’s more them coming to a mutual agreement that the team needs to move on and he resigns. Rooney and the Steelers already know that the amount of draft capital they have in the first 4 rounds of the upcoming draft is 7 picks. With what they have on the roster that amount could right the ship. If they’re keeping Tomlin, they tell him to go offense as much as they can. Edited January 13 by Sojourner Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Two prevailing beliefs regarding Tomlin's future: The Rooneys don't fire coaches and wouldn't fire Tomlin. Tomlin will leave of his own accord and may already have something lined up in broadcasting. 2 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said: Meaning...? Vrabel is commended as some sort of former player genius coach. He’s not. Ryans is. I think he’s just saying Vrabel is overrated, Ryans is underrated. Edited January 13 by MrEpsYtown 1 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: From my friends, it's been a desperate attempt with Wilson and Rodgers to just keep making the playoffs and keep adding to the winning record streak for Tomlin. They should of blew it up after Big Ben retired. I agree with them. I don't know who your friends are, but I don't think that's it. Pittburgh feels they've had a defense that's good enough for a championship, if only they had a QB (was not true this season, but arguable the prev. 2 years) Drafted Rudolph, he wasn't it. Drafted Pickett, he wasn't it They've basically been trying to do what Denver did when they brought in Peyton Manning Could analyze why it worked for Denver with Manning and isn't working for Pittsburgh - but that's what they've been trying to do Could note that Denver tried to "go to the well" again with Wilson and it didn't work either. Edited January 13 by Beck Water Quote
Sojourner Posted January 13 Posted January 13 20 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Vrabel is commended as some sort of former player genius coach. He’s not. Ryans is. I think he’s just saying Vrabel is overrated, Ryans is underrated. The fact Al-Shaair was on MNF post game praising Vrabel for his coaching ability during his Titans playing days tells me that he at least has the players belief in him. That is all that matters, genius or not. Get the right coordinators and have a coach players are willing to give 100% for us a winning recipe. I do agree on the end of your post though. Demeco is underrated, definite potential for a main stay coach in the league. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 13 Posted January 13 I hope that is how it ends for Rodgers. A pick 6 in the playoffs with him throwing his hands up and blaming the receiver. The perfect microcosom of the second half of his, what is bound to be, Hall of Fame career. 4 hours ago, jkeerie said: Actually, I prefer the earlier game vs the night game with the time change. For those of us this side of the pond it is greatly appreciated. The late Saturday game is a weekend wrecker. 4 hours ago, UKBillFan said: On the plus side, I don't think Romo will sallivate over Nix to the same level he did Lawrence. He will. He salivates over everybody. That is what CBS have told him the job is. Spend 3 hours saying everyone and everything is great. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 13 Posted January 13 And as for Tomlin.... my view is this.... he is a good coach and the Steelers should try not to fire him. But he must be given an ultimatum by ownership - no more sticking plasters to protect your non-losing season record, we are blowing this up and rebuilding. Then if he wants to stay and lead that I'd let him. But if he doesn't then you part ways. 1 Quote
Livinginthepast Posted January 13 Posted January 13 I think Brady and Brees briefly changed the paradigm for how an aging QB plays but Rodgers just returned us to normalcy. An angry ranting shadow of his former self. I have no idea if his Steeler's teammates like him but it almost looked like they stopped caring in that game. The Steeler's D gave the the O three turnovers and they could do almost nothing with it. The pick 6 with Rodgers making a wimpy half hearted tackle attempt might have been the most fitting ending. Maybe he needs to take some more Ayahuasca to get some clarity on retirement. Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted January 13 Posted January 13 6 hours ago, Sojourner said: The fact Al-Shaair was on MNF post game praising Vrabel for his coaching ability during his Titans playing days tells me that he at least has the players belief in him. That is all that matters, genius or not. Get the right coordinators and have a coach players are willing to give 100% for us a winning recipe. I do agree on the end of your post though. Demeco is underrated, definite potential for a main stay coach in the league. Yeah, I hear that. Both are obviously good coaches, and i think Vrabel is legit. But man, Ryans really has something going on. 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted January 13 Posted January 13 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: And as for Tomlin.... my view is this.... he is a good coach and the Steelers should try not to fire him. But he must be given an ultimatum by ownership - no more sticking plasters to protect your non-losing season record, we are blowing this up and rebuilding. Then if he wants to stay and lead that I'd let him. But if he doesn't then you part ways. Sticking plasters? Can you translate that one? I love it and want to be able to use it 🤣 Quote
Watkins101 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Livinginthepast said: I think Brady and Brees briefly changed the paradigm for how an aging QB plays but Rodgers just returned us to normalcy. An angry ranting shadow of his former self. I have no idea if his Steeler's teammates like him but it almost looked like they stopped caring in that game. The Steeler's D gave the the O three turnovers and they could do almost nothing with it. The pick 6 with Rodgers making a wimpy half hearted tackle attempt might have been the most fitting ending. Maybe he needs to take some more Ayahuasca to get some clarity on retirement. Not quite the same as he is 37 while Brees/Brady/Rodgers played into their 40s, but Matt Stafford seems to be falling more on the side of Brees/Brady, putting up a mvp candidate season. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 13 Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Sticking plasters? Can you translate that one? I love it and want to be able to use it 🤣 Short term solutions that don't totally fix the problem and that can never be more than short term solutions. 2 Quote
Livinginthepast Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Watkins101 said: Not quite the same as he is 37 while Brees/Brady/Rodgers played into their 40s, but Matt Stafford seems to be falling more on the side of Brees/Brady, putting up a mvp candidate season. Stafford has looked great. Really surprising renaissance of his career, he really looked done dealing with all the injuries in 2022 and has come back amazingly. Rodgers should have retired after the Achilles. His elusiveness and speed have evaporated. Quote
UKBillFan Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, WotAGuy said: Sticking plasters? Can you translate that one? I love it and want to be able to use it 🤣 I think the American equivalent is band aid. 1 1 Quote
jkeerie Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Short term solutions that don't totally fix the problem and that can never be more than short term solutions. That's what they have tried to do at QB. Just like it finally took Josh Allen to replace Jim Kelly, the Steelers have never replaced Ben Rothlesberger. The problem isn't the coach, it's the QB and that is the job of the GM. Tomlin complicates things in that he wins more games with a mediocre QB, so they draft mid to late in the first round. They need to try to improve their draft position via trades or get lucky like SF did with Purdy. Quote
dave mcbride Posted January 13 Posted January 13 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I hope that is how it ends for Rodgers. A pick 6 in the playoffs with him throwing his hands up and blaming the receiver. The perfect microcosom of the second half of his, what is bound to be, Hall of Fame career. For those of us this side of the pond it is greatly appreciated. The late Saturday game is a weekend wrecker. He will. He salivates over everybody. That is what CBS have told him the job is. Spend 3 hours saying everyone and everything is great. A friend of mine sent me this and asked if it was true. I told him that it wasn't, but that the reason it's funny is that it's an entirely plausible scenario: Romo was a freaking parody of himself in the Jags game. Just babbling nonsense all game long. 1 Quote
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