PoundingDog Posted January 11 Posted January 11 There is no way you are wasting a down trying to score. A lot of things can happen, like someone mentioned, penalties, injuries. etc. Quote
Jalan81 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 19 minutes ago, ***** said: Oh man how DUMB. Tre white saved McDermotts job. !!!! Dude I can’t believe our coaches are so dumb. To not call a kneel down there? on the half yard line, 1 minute left, 3 time outs, their kicker can kick 80 yarders, and :13 seconds. how how how do you make that mistake!?!?!? you TAKE A KNEE. KILL :40 seconds. THEN you have 3 plays with 3 TOs to use to get the TD with lat most, :15 seconds left. DUH DUH DUH DUH we won but that dumb decision could easily cost us the game AND, will likely cost us next week! gosh the complete lack of awareness and feel for how a game is going just drives me NUTS!!!!! All the people downvoting is only because he got away with it. Jacksonville let us score because they knew it was their only chance. He’s just not very bright and or has way too much faith in a beat up defense. If we were healthy on defense I don’t think Jacksonville is in it at the end but we are where we are. 1 Quote
Fetou Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Just now, pennstate10 said: One problem with your approach. if you fail scenario 1, for whatever reason, you lose. If you fail scenario 2, the game is tied. These aren’t equivalent outcomes. Prater almost missed the extra point. The odds of winning the game were harmed by giving the defense what they wanted and scoring immediately 1 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted January 11 Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Einstein said: I thought about this for a while. I see both sides. That being said, I think McD made the right decision. 1 procedural penalty and you’re at the 5. One hold and you’re at the 10. The score is not guaranteed. But it’s also not guaranteed on first down. Those penalties could occur on first down…..and almost NEVER on a glorified kneel down Quote
T&C Posted January 11 Posted January 11 21 minutes ago, ***** said: Oh man how DUMB. Tre white saved McDermotts job. !!!! Dude I can’t believe our coaches are so dumb. To not call a kneel down there? on the half yard line, 1 minute left, 3 time outs, their kicker can kick 80 yarders, and :13 seconds. how how how do you make that mistake!?!?!? you TAKE A KNEE. KILL :40 seconds. THEN you have 3 plays with 3 TOs to use to get the TD with lat most, :15 seconds left. DUH DUH DUH DUH we won but that dumb decision could easily cost us the game AND, will likely cost us next week! gosh the complete lack of awareness and feel for how a game is going just drives me NUTS!!!!! Username checks out... Quote
Flip Johnson Posted January 11 Posted January 11 20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: That drove me nuts. They allowed us to score to give them time. Have Allen take a knee at the 1 inch line. Drain the block to about 10 seconds left….we had 3 time outs. Bill Cower agrees with me. It's not a video game. Not that easy to do. Quote
Nelius Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Lawrence played terribly today, far worse than the box score. The fear of this failing requires thinking that he’s suddenly going to figure it out and march down the field. It was the right call. 2 Quote
Jalan81 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 22 minutes ago, Danger Mouse said: Yeah, take a knee and lose yards against number 1 run defence in the NFL Good thinking Jacksonville gave us the TD because they knew it was their only chance. Thank god we stopped them. Quote
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I feel like you could argue it either way. Our defense has a tendency to play strong at the end. It's not the first time they have shut down a passing game - sometimes after playing much worse than today. There is a psychological component to going for the win and trusting your team and in this case it paid off. As someone else pointed out, if you lose yards diving, you could get a penalty or even fumble somehow. No TD, no win... it worked. 1 Quote
Tim Tindale Posted January 11 Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, QB Bills said: You lose one yard at most. Then you have 3 downs to get two yards. There's no real argument here. It was an egregious mistake that they got away with. Except there is an argument and the person that has the most important vote bet the other side, putting the pressure on Trevor, and got paid off ON THE FIRST DEFENSIVE PLAY. Quote
Jalan81 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 22 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said: ? The hell? We won! Who cares. You know you don’t have to post if you don’t want to discuss the game. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 11 Posted January 11 (edited) I think it was probably the right call. You absolutely cannot take knees and lose yardage and your qb diving into a pile at the goal line intentionally short a few times is gonna open him up to getting hit by everybody and is a pretty big fumble risk if the execution wasn’t perfect and that sneak started getting closer to a full yard Jax keeps getting better and better odds to stop the one that matters Edited January 11 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 1 Quote
Brandon Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Just now, Nelius said: Lawrence played terribly today, far worse than the box score. The fear of this failing requires thinking that he’s suddenly going to figure it out and march down the field. It was the right call. Yeah, that's a consideration as well. The Bills got hands on at least half a dozen passes today. He was making some really questionable choices at times. Quote
Danger Mouse Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Just now, Jalan81 said: Jacksonville gave us the TD because they knew it was their only chance. Thank god we stopped them. Or they liked the odds. Truth s nobody knows the counter factual. We only know what happened. And what happeed is we were right and they were wrong. 1 2 Quote
Buffalo Ballin Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Just now, Jalan81 said: You know you don’t have to post if you don’t want to discuss the game. Please keep reading the thread. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted January 11 Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Flip Johnson said: It's not a video game. Not that easy to do. Im putting my entire house on Allen getting in. It worked so I won’t complain but I do think the smarter move was to drain the clock. They need just two first downs and they’re in FG range with Kicker God. 3 Quote
Jalan81 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Just now, Danger Mouse said: Or they liked the odds. Truth s nobody knows the counter factual. We only know what happened. And what happeed is we were right and they were wrong. This is true, but it’s fun to discuss while we enjoy this incredible victory. Josh is one tough SOB!!!! Just now, Buffalo Ballin said: Please keep reading the thread. 👍 👍 Quote
billieve420 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I wouldn’t take a knee but would have told Allen to dive and give himself up short. That could have cost team with Parker having big leg and plenty of time. Thankfully, Lawrence ended game with pick. Quote
MJS Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Take a knee? No. Dive forward for a half yard or no gain? Possibly. But it is risky to tempt the football gods and get too cute there, honestly. 2 Quote
1st&ten Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Yeah all the negative nancys don't remember the game where we fumbled at the 2 yd line---Bills win that's what count 1 Quote
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