BillMafia716ix Posted January 4 Posted January 4 The national media knows nothing about the Bills. 1 3 Quote
JGMcD2 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: Also, you can't fire 3 straight OCs when you have Josh Allen without some serious questions. Great rewrite of the history. Brian Daboll was hired prior to Josh Allen's rookie season and later left to become a Head Coach. Ken Dorsey was promoted from Quarterbacks Coach and was fired during an uneven second season. Joe Brady was promoted from Quarterbacks Coach and is currently the Offensive Coordinator. He is considered one of the top Head Coach candidates in this cycle. So yeah, I’m not sure what you mean by McDermott needing to “fire three straight OCs.” 1 1 1 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 minute ago, BillMafia716ix said: The national media knows nothing about the Bills. Most of the time I agree with you that the national media knows nothing period… but I’m more inclined to say that after so many years of same old same old with high expectations and low results even the media is starting to see it’s not Josh Allen‘s fault and something needs to change. Quote
dickleyjones Posted January 4 Posted January 4 24 minutes ago, FireChans said: He’s so good that the NFL media is talking about if he may be getting fired. ah yes, the good 'ol reliable media. meaningless. Quote
JGMcD2 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said: Likelihood of one or the other getting tossed seems like zero. Theyre way too intertwined to do that. I was with Beane up until final straw of the trade deadline. Had dude made a single WR trade, I think he would've saved his job and been around to potentially hire a new coach.... now I dunno. As mind blowing as the WR thing is, the refusal /inability to hire strong OC/DC coaches is mind boggling. Josh would have a line out the door for OCs wanting the job.... maybe McD knows that hire would be his #1 threat. They both blew it and deserve whatever happens 2 them So you’re telling me that if he traded for Brandin Cooks at the deadline, you wouldn’t want his head on a stake? You mean Brian Daboll, who took a Head Coach job; Ken Dorsey, who interviewed for Head Coach positions; and Joe Brady, who interviewed last year and is a betting favorite to become one this year? 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted January 4 Posted January 4 40 minutes ago, MJS said: Highest win percentage in Bills history. Seven straight seasons with double digit wins. Seven career playoff wins. Two AFC Championship appearances. Five division titles. It's almost like he is one of the best and most accomplished coaches in Bills history or something... What was the floor all these years with a HOF QB and literally no AFC East Competition? He's a steady and consistent coach. He's not raising the ceiling of this team. If that's good for you, great. We can all tell stories when we retire about those epic Bills teams in the 2020's and how they never failed to win 10 games. 2 2 2 1 Quote
13 Seconds to Mars Posted January 4 Posted January 4 46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: These stories just keep recycling. The media needs to get it through their heads that pegula is not firing Sean McDermott . He would need to have multiple losing seasons imo and even then … it would take a lot. I know people like to debate back and forth whether he’s deserving of being fired or not but it’s a waste of time imo. /end thread 2 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 4 Posted January 4 2 hours ago, stlbills13 said: Schefter is a dope If nothing else he's a smelly act! Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 4 Posted January 4 56 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: What’s up with all the unwavering loyalty to McD? It’s like he’s won a SB or something. It’s ok to have change. We have the best player in the NFL, we will be ok giving another coach the reigns, preferably one who invests in Josh In many ways this was one of McDermott's best years as a coach. This isn't about my feelings about McDermott anyway, it's about the Pegulas. And look at their history with Sabres coaches. He won't be fired. Guarantee it. Now Beane is a different story... Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 4 Posted January 4 4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: What was the floor all these years with a HOF QB and literally no AFC East Competition? He's a steady and consistent coach. He's not raising the ceiling of this team. If that's good for you, great. We can all tell stories when we retire about those epic Bills teams in the 2020's and how they never failed to win 10 games. So far, and I mean so far, he is Marty Schottenheimer 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 4 Posted January 4 39 minutes ago, FireChans said: Nothing says bulletproof like 7-8 in the playoffs. He's bullet proof this year 2 Quote
SirAndrew Posted January 4 Posted January 4 6 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: What was the floor all these years with a HOF QB and literally no AFC East Competition? He's a steady and consistent coach. He's not raising the ceiling of this team. If that's good for you, great. We can all tell stories when we retire about those epic Bills teams in the 2020's and how they never failed to win 10 games. Right, and now the Pats are AFC East champs. It’s not exactly trending in the right direction if we don’t make a run this postseason. 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said: So far, and I mean so far, he is Marty Schottenheimer Yup, and while Marty was a damn good coach, literally no people talk about those 80's Browns, 90's Chiefs, and 00's Chargers with any sense of positivity. It was just about them not getting it done. If they're even mentioned at all. If Allen doesn't win one his legacy will be that he didn't win one and that will bundle into the 90's Super Bowl teams. Making this teams legacy not about mediocrity, but about failing in big moments and it will be about as strong as any in sport history at that point. He has to win one, it really is that simple. We passed on two guy last year who now have teams playing far better than we are. Running it back is just digging the hole deeper from my view. But is what it is. 1 1 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted January 4 Posted January 4 I don’t think Schefter reports this if there wasn’t a seed of truth to it. Anyway, just win a Super Bowl and then we can give guys lifetime achievement awards. If not, give someone else a shot. Go Bills! 2 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 4 Posted January 4 43 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Daboll wasn’t fired. I shouldn't have said 3 straight. Rico, Dorsey now Brady depending on the week was what I was thinking of when I said 3. But Brady hasn't been fired yet and depending on the week he's either about to be fired or a top HC candidate Quote
NeverOutNick Posted January 4 Posted January 4 4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Yup, and while Marty was a damn good coach, literally no people talk about those 80's Browns, 90's Chiefs, and 00's Chargers with any sense of positivity. It was just about them not getting it done. If they're even mentioned at all. If Allen doesn't win one his legacy will be that he didn't win one and that will bundle into the 90's Super Bowl teams. Making this teams legacy not about mediocrity, but about failing in big moments and it will be about as strong as any in sport history at that point. He has to win one, it really is that simple. We passed on two guy last year who now have teams playing far better than we are. Running it back is just digging the hole deeper from my view. But is what it is. Amen! Imagine this team with Ben Johnson or Coen from last year heck even Vrabel. Or 2 years ago with Harbaugh or Mike Macdonald or 3 years ago with Shane Steichen or Sean Payton…all these coaches immediately elevated their teams with lesser QBs than we have. I’ll eat my words if McD pulls it off this year but an early exit and it’s time to change Josh’s legacy from all time great QB to multiple SB champ and best QB of all time. 1 2 1 1 Quote
Puckman5 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 2 hours ago, Success said: This is a good take. I have come to believe that conventional wisdom is wrong about McDermott. He has his flaws as a coach - but literally every coach has those. He also has some real strengths, and has made this team a consistent winner. Which is no easy task - because almost everyone (here & nationally) agrees that he has Allen, Cook and a few other guys, and a pretty mid roster the rest of the way. Maybe it's just bad luck - but Beane's high draft picks haven't hit like they should, and he has had a weird & sort of inexplicable blind spot regarding the WR position. He hasn't built a good, balanced roster. He has built a roster that most agree relies on Allen to put on the cape against good teams. Aren't Beane's draft picks McDermott's draft picks? I find it hard to believe Beane is enamored with all mid tier rotational D-linemen. I'm sure it's been discussed, but does anyone have an inside line on who has the final say on our picks? 1 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 4 Posted January 4 4 minutes ago, Puckman5 said: Aren't Beane's draft picks McDermott's draft picks? I find it hard to believe Beane is enamored with all mid tier rotational D-linemen. I'm sure it's been discussed, but does anyone have an inside line on who has the final say on our picks? If not Beane then what is he here for? 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 4 Posted January 4 34 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: literally no people talk about those 80's Browns, 90's Chiefs, and 00's Chargers with any sense of positivity. I don't think that is true. 7 minutes ago, Puckman5 said: Aren't Beane's draft picks McDermott's draft picks? I find it hard to believe Beane is enamored with all mid tier rotational D-linemen. I'm sure it's been discussed, but does anyone have an inside line on who has the final say on our picks? It is 100% Brandon Beane. I have spoken first hand to two people who have been in that building in positions to know. They both say the same - Sean and Brandon are generally pretty aligned on what they want and how they want to build the roster - it's a joint "vision" if you will. But the picks are Beane. He has the final say on all personnel matters and that is the reality of how it runs. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: That's right... I do wonder if Daboll would come back. I know everyone says its impossible but Pegula loves the guy and maybe McDermott just wants to win. Either way, we have to see how this all plays out! No thanks - he was a mess when he left here. There was a fire Daboll thread here as often as fire Brady threads, and probably more. And he doesn’t want to run the football either Edited January 4 by Alphadawg7 Quote
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