Jackson hawes ceiling ???

[nuklz2594]

guy has exceeded every expectation. an off-season of work and having Josh as QB...what's his ceiling?

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Does have physical limitations, elite blocker. 
 

Ceiling may be Dawson Knox production of the last few years. 
 

Floor is Lee Smith. 

[NewEra]

By the time his rookie contract is up his ceiling is probably 16M aav

 

scratch that.  18M

Edited 2 hours ago by NewEra

[Buffalo ill]

I think his ceiling is being unsurance for when Kincaid is up for an extension.  I fear being handcuffed by a contract to a often injured player yet again.  Having Hawes on the team might softens the blow of trading Dalton or letting him walk.

 

[Yobogoya!]

Just now, NewEra said:

By the time his rookie contract is up his ceiling is probably 16M aav

 

With Beane handing out the extension that might be his floor 🙃

[strive_for_five_guy]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said:

I think his ceiling is being unsurance for when Kincaid is up for an extension.  I fear being handcuffed by a contract to a often injured player yet again.  Having Hawes on the team might softens the blow of trading Dalton or letting him walk.

 

We better have some other receiving weapons by then.  Hawes is a beast and occasionally is making the clutch catch, but I don’t think he’s ever going to be one of the top TE receiving weapons in the league.

Edited 2 hours ago by strive_for_five_guy

[appoo]

Best Inline TE in the sport

[TBBills Fan]

I'm guessing vaulted ceiling due to his height 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Who is the tight end equivalent of John Stallworth?

[SoonerBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Who is the tight end equivalent of John Stallworth?

Ill go with Brent Jones of the 49'ers of the 80's / 90's.

[Mister Defense]

looks like he is going to be one of the best run (and pass blockers?) in the league for a long time.

 

If he continues to do well as  receiver, and really focuses on that in the off season, attending the tight end camp and working with some of the best on his own, I think he can become a high quality starter, a great compliment to Kincaid.

 

But Iike Knox too, think he is one of the most under utilized talents on the roster.  He separates effectively, has very good hands now, and has become a much better blocker.  I would love to keep all three of these guys next year and think Knox can be had for a very good price.

 

But Brady needs to open his eyes to the talent on the roster, and not wait to be called out for not doing that.

 

 

[mbs]

I really wanted Lee Smith to get more targets. I think Hawes is getting more than Smith, but it's like a free extra player on the field when you have a guy like that.

[gonzo1105]

For a ceiling? I mean the first name that popped into my mind was an early career Martellus Bennett who was a great blocker, had solid hands and caught about 30-40 balls a year. Late career Martellus Bennett I would say no because he eventually turned into a receiving monster which I’m not sure Hawes has in him 

[PaattMaann]

27 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said:

I think his ceiling is being unsurance for when Kincaid is up for an extension.  I fear being handcuffed by a contract to a often injured player yet again.  Having Hawes on the team might softens the blow of trading Dalton or letting him walk.

 

 

no. Kincaid and how he is used/his skills are nothing close to what Hawes is, or even could be.

 

Hawes is much closer to Dawson Knox than Dalton Kincaid. If Kincaid walks due to money, we would simply use a WR in that role instead of a TE. 

[Buffalo Junction]

6 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

For a ceiling? I mean the first name that popped into my mind was an early career Martellus Bennett who was a great blocker, had solid hands and caught about 30-40 balls a year. Late career Martellus Bennett I would say no because he eventually turned into a receiving monster which I’m not sure Hawes has in him 

Easily career Martellus Bennet to late career Bubba Franks?

[atlbillsfan1975]

He is a serviceable pass catcher and an elite blocker. If an OC can’t figure out how to use Hawes correctly, they need to be fired. I have a feeling he is going to have a huge impact on how far the Bills go in the playoffs when facing some of these elite defenses with top notch pass rushers 

[NewEra]

41 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Who is the tight end equivalent of John Stallworth?

Mike Gesicki, obviously!

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, nuklz2594 said:

guy has exceeded every expectation. an off-season of work and having Josh as QB...what's his ceiling?

Too early to predict given his current role on the Bills - primarily a blocking TE, part time TD catcher. But the kid is tough and does the dirty work. How far he progresses beyond the current role depends on how he handles the coming off season. If we add a stud WR in the offseason, it will help the OC go down on the run-pass ratio and he will see more targets. 

But clearly he is one of the good stories of this season. 

[zow2]

Yeah Beane gets a golf clap for Jackson Hawes.  Never heard of this dude until the Bills drafted him and he's exceeded everything.  He probably could be more involved in the passing game if they need him to be.

[billsbackto81]

55 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Who is the tight end equivalent of John Stallworth?

Whoever would've thought this previous comment would pick up so much traction 🤣