Game week thread - Bills at Patriots*

[BillsFooteball]

5 hours ago, Instincts said:

Without who??? You sound like an emotional man who doesnt know football. Gonzalez might be the league’s best corner and Milton Johnson one of the best run stuffers.. I won't go into detail with the other names because you sound like an emotional fan instead of a person who can have conversations on football knowledge. Even I know some of the best players on your team.. though they force Josh Allen to try and do everything by himself which will not work against the Patriots. What is crazy is the fact that even though you guys got beat AT HOME you STILL have this cocky confidence due to the last few years of competing to get to the conference championship game and not the superbowl 🤔🧐 .. Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Brock Purdy, Matthew Stafford, Jalen Hurts, Joe Burrow .. at played at least once on Superbowl Sunday.. where is Lamar Jackson? Josh Allen? Be cocky once you actually make it to A superbowl.. otherwise you ain't won sh*t, stay humble 

Ummm pats fan do you know the name of one the best run stuffers in the league on your team?!  This is my favorite one of yours. The irony of you going on about not wanting to name more players and even knowing bills best players but really  don’t even know your own 🤣🤣🤣. Fantastic.  Welp it sure was a nice 5 years not hearing from the bandwagon massholes. When talking trash at least know your team. Are you concerned facing Josh Smith this week? He might be one of the leagues best QBS!! 

Edited 11 hours ago by BillsFooteball

[Success]

With the Patriots, everyone wants to know - is this real, or have they just been propped up by that schedule?

 

Haters think it's all schedule. Pats fans (the only non-haters) think it's 100% real, and that they're really the best in the AFC.

 

The reality, as always, is probably somewhere in the middle.  They're good, but nowhere near as good as their record.

 

And, most importantly, they're still the 2nd best team in the division.  That should be apparent on Sunday.

 

[HappyDays]

35 minutes ago, Success said:

With the Patriots, everyone wants to know - is this real, or have they just been propped up by that schedule?

 

Haters think it's all schedule. Pats fans (the only non-haters) think it's 100% real, and that they're really the best in the AFC.

 

The reality, as always, is probably somewhere in the middle.  They're good, but nowhere near as good as their record.

 

And, most importantly, they're still the 2nd best team in the division.  That should be apparent on Sunday.

 

 

I'll be honest, the schedule argument really doesn't do it for me. Ripping off 10 wins in a row is incredibly impressive no matter who you play during the run. It's not like the Pats have a ton of talent across their roster either. They are winning these games with elite coaching and fundamentals, and damn good QB play to boot. The Bills have never been the #1 seed because they've failed to ever have a run like that and they find a way to lose to a couple clearly inferior opponents every year. So it's a bit rich to act like it is some hollow feat when we haven't done it once in six seasons with an all-time QB in his prime.

 

By the way I think we are a clearly better team than New England and I expect us to win this week, I just can't bring myself to downplay what Vrabel has them doing this year. It's an amazing stretch of games for a young team, full stop.

[Kelly to Allen]

19 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'll be honest, the schedule argument really doesn't do it for me. Ripping off 10 wins in a row is incredibly impressive no matter who you play during the run. It's not like the Pats have a ton of talent across their roster either. They are winning these games with elite coaching and fundamentals, and damn good QB play to boot. The Bills have never been the #1 seed because they've failed to ever have a run like that and they find a way to lose to a couple clearly inferior opponents every year. So it's a bit rich to act like it is some hollow feat when we haven't done it once in six seasons with an all-time QB in his prime.

 

By the way I think we are a clearly better team than New England and I expect us to win this week, I just can't bring myself to downplay what Vrabel has them doing this year. It's an amazing stretch of games for a young team, full stop.

 

I thought buffalo did everything right last year for the 1 seed.

 

The chiefs luck last year was truly bizarre 

 

I mean even before the AFC championship Taron Johnson tears his labrum on the last series for the ravens but plays through it. Rapp gets hurt vs Baltimore, Benford gets hurt on the 1st series 

 

All of a sudden KC is playing a secondary that lost 2 starters and another is playing hurt....

 

It's a cruel joke 

Edited 8 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

You lose Sunday (if) and lose to the Eagles that’s 6 losses so they would need someone else lose 2 games (most likely Indy) Also the Bills lost to the Dolphins there are no Ginny games for anyone in the AFC this year 

 

 

The Bills are almost certain to be in with 10 wins now. Before the weekend the Bills were at risk of missing out with 10 wins. 

 

For the Bills not to make it to 10 now they'd have to lose out meaning losing to the Browns AND the Jets. They are in a position where they could lose to the Pats, Eagles and one of those other 2 and still be in like 95% of the time.

 

The ONLY scenario that I can find that keeps the Bills out with 10 wins is where their one remaining win is vs the NFC Eagles AND they end in a 4 way tie at 10-7 between the Chiefs, Bills, Texans and Colts. That is literally the ONLY 10 win scenario I can find in which the Bills miss out. And that ain't happening. The Colts will be lucky to win another game.

[Pete]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'll be honest, the schedule argument really doesn't do it for me. Ripping off 10 wins in a row is incredibly impressive no matter who you play during the run. It's not like the Pats have a ton of talent across their roster either. They are winning these games with elite coaching and fundamentals, and damn good QB play to boot. The Bills have never been the #1 seed because they've failed to ever have a run like that and they find a way to lose to a couple clearly inferior opponents every year. So it's a bit rich to act like it is some hollow feat when we haven't done it once in six seasons with an all-time QB in his prime.

 

By the way I think we are a clearly better team than New England and I expect us to win this week, I just can't bring myself to downplay what Vrabel has them doing this year. It's an amazing stretch of games for a young team, full stop.

Carolina beat the Rams.

Saints beat the Bucs.

Dolphins beat the Bills.

Raiders beat the Pats.

 

It’s a week to week league. Any given Sunday.  It’s hard to win in the NFL.  
 

10 wins in a row is damn impressive, no matter the cupcake schedule 

[Neo]

We’re Bills fans, loved and respected world wide.   They’re Patriots fans, loathed and despised world wide.

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'll be honest, the schedule argument really doesn't do it for me. Ripping off 10 wins in a row is incredibly impressive no matter who you play during the run. It's not like the Pats have a ton of talent across their roster either. They are winning these games with elite coaching and fundamentals, and damn good QB play to boot. The Bills have never been the #1 seed because they've failed to ever have a run like that and they find a way to lose to a couple clearly inferior opponents every year. So it's a bit rich to act like it is some hollow feat when we haven't done it once in six seasons with an all-time QB in his prime.

 

By the way I think we are a clearly better team than New England and I expect us to win this week, I just can't bring myself to downplay what Vrabel has them doing this year. It's an amazing stretch of games for a young team, full stop.

 

The schedule argument is definitely real. Other than us the only other winning teams they have beaten in that run are the two 7-6 NFC South teams. But you are right that you still have to win them and Bills fans shouldn't be too sniffy about them. They really grew in confidence from beating the Bills in a game we gave away. That's on us. They are well coached, they do play with pretty sound fundamentals, and their young Quarterback has played great and is in the MVP conversation as a 2nd year player. Vrabel built it the right way. The first thing that needed sorting was the trenches. The OL is so much better than it has been basically in any year since they last made the Superbowl. Losing Will Campbell hurts and we will see how that impacts them moving forward. 

 

I'm slightly surprised that they are the #1 seed as we stand but I was pretty confident pre-season that they'd be a playoff team.

[Instincts]

8 hours ago, Juice_32 said:

pats* fans* are the worst

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-rankings-index-week-14-2025-nfl-season

[JustAnotherBillsFan]

11 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

I want a fun and good game with no major injuries on either side..  I think the game may come down to whichever OC can make adjustments after the D adjusts to whatever the Os throw at them.. So coaching going be huge IMO. 

I agree, and unfortunately I think the Pats have a big advantage in coaching.

[Ghost_002!]

20 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

The general caliber of their opponents should increase.

 

Edit: Hoping we take advantage of their RBs’ tendency to put the ball on the ground. 

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see either a Drake Maye fumble or one of our RBs fumble.

[BritBill]

2 hours ago, Neo said:

We’re Bills fans, loved and respected world wide.   They’re Patriots fans, loathed and despised world wide.

I once saw one in a Brady jersey and a Manchester United tattoo on their leg. How much of a c**t can one person be?

[Ghost_002!]

28 minutes ago, BritBill said:

I once saw one in a Brady jersey and a Manchester United tattoo on their leg. How much of a c**t can one person be?

 

 

How so?

Edited 2 hours ago by Ghost_002!

[stevewin]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The ONLY scenario that I can find that keeps the Bills out with 10 wins is where their one remaining win is vs the NFC Eagles

So if I'm understanding  correctly, what you're saying is that a loss to an NFC team will help our playoff chances

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by stevewin

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, stevewin said:

So if I'm understanding  correctly, what you're saying is that a loss to an NFC team will help our playoff chances

 

 

 

It always does. 

[Psautcsk]

6 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'll be honest, the schedule argument really doesn't do it for me. Ripping off 10 wins in a row is incredibly impressive no matter who you play during the run. It's not like the Pats have a ton of talent across their roster either. They are winning these games with elite coaching and fundamentals, and damn good QB play to boot. The Bills have never been the #1 seed because they've failed to ever have a run like that and they find a way to lose to a couple clearly inferior opponents every year. So it's a bit rich to act like it is some hollow feat when we haven't done it once in six seasons with an all-time QB in his prime.

 

By the way I think we are a clearly better team than New England and I expect us to win this week, I just can't bring myself to downplay what Vrabel has them doing this year. It's an amazing stretch of games for a young team, full stop.

Exactly. The good thing is that the Bills will need to keep up with how the Pats are evolving and cannot be complacent.

[Juice_32]

2 hours ago, Instincts said:

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-rankings-index-week-14-2025-nfl-season

*

[finn]

8 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'll be honest, the schedule argument really doesn't do it for me. Ripping off 10 wins in a row is incredibly impressive no matter who you play during the run. It's not like the Pats have a ton of talent across their roster either. They are winning these games with elite coaching and fundamentals, and damn good QB play to boot. The Bills have never been the #1 seed because they've failed to ever have a run like that and they find a way to lose to a couple clearly inferior opponents every year. So it's a bit rich to act like it is some hollow feat when we haven't done it once in six seasons with an all-time QB in his prime.

 

By the way I think we are a clearly better team than New England and I expect us to win this week, I just can't bring myself to downplay what Vrabel has them doing this year. It's an amazing stretch of games for a young team, full stop.

I have no problem giving the Patriots credit for winning 10 in a row. You can't do that without good coaching and quality play. But neither can you do it without a healthy dose of luck, by which I mean injuries, weather, scheduling quirks (like timing of the bye and which teams you play at home and away) referee bias (yes, it exists, if only because they're human), and so on. 

 

Put it this way: A team made up of All-Pros, with two seasons to play together can coached by any staff you wish, still might not win ten in a row. Such runs are simply not all due to how wonderful and special the team is. I'd say that if the Bills had just ripped off ten in a row. The Pats could easily--easily--have  the same or worse record than the Bills and be the exact same team it is now with the exact same coaches and exact same intangibles.

 

So let's not get carried away by the utter gloriousness of this team, as so many commentators are. Yes, records matter, obviously, but essentially they're  just another top-ten team in a season where no team in that tier has separated from the rest. 

[Blank Stare]

Cheats have played a soft schedule (so have the Bills), but they are legit. Difference between them and us is that they got all their “brain fart” games out of the way early in the season and have taken care of business since. Good on them. They should win the division barring a loss this week and another misstep. I came to grips with that after the Bills dumb loss to the fish. 
 

Honestly, while I’d obviously love to have the division for nothing other than getting another game at Highmark, I really just want us to come out and match Diggs intensity and get Josh his first W over him since he’s left. 

[Behindenemylines]

The question we all should be asking is: with Mahomes not playing as well will Collinsworth start washing Maye, or will he go for the ole devils three way.