Its OK for the Bills to be a run-first team

[BuffaloBillyG]

5 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

I actually liked the way they won last week. Rushing for 249 yards and hogging the ball most of the game for a nice 26-7 win. I would sign up for that every week. 

The ends justify the means. 

 

Had it not been that amazing three minute span by Bosa and Benford to open the second half, that score would have been much closer regardless of the time of possession or rush yards. Ultimately, I would have been content with the win, but if not for the defense we are having an entirely different conversation about the offense this week IMO. 

 

I liken it to people that watch MLB games for the deep balls or the NHL for the fights. People want to see the excitement. They want that 80 yard TD pass more than the 10 play 80 yard 7 minute long drive. We live in clip in a world where a 20 second clip on Twitter is what people want. Attention spans aren't long enough these days. 

[JoshAllin]

Run first sounds fine until it isnt, then youre punting early and watching good teams shut it down and score. I'd prefer a pass first and run later, so you get comfortable leads first 

[Kelly to Allen]

3 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said:

The problem I see with it is that the WRs are not catchers just additional blockers and on the field for that reason alone (which is why we can’t pass it). We are paying a guy or 2 big money to be a threat in the passing game just to clear out for the run. It’s a 1950s offense masquerading as a modern high scoring one. Josh Allen himself is nothing more than a threat in this scheme. It’s stupid and not a sustainable model for winning especially given the non complimentary Defensive philosophy—bend don’t break and hope for turnovers.

 

If this was the plan all along, why why why not sign Cook first vs letting him be the last to be paid? In full it really makes me think they have no plans or ideas and are shooting from the hip patching it together this year.

 

I can relate to a lot of things here and generally agree. 

 

This has been the bills identity under Brady since the middle of 2023. Will they get to the Superbowl? 

 

For me it's whether the bills defense vs the chiefs & Steelers shows up in January. It's always been that for me.

 

 

[BillsShredder83]

9 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

I actually liked the way they won last week. Rushing for 249 yards and hogging the ball most of the game for a nice 26-7 win. I would sign up for that every week. 

Sure. Anyone would. You think DC's will just let this happen lol

 

Happen 4xs in a row. Each week seeing new wrinkles, from progressively better talent & coaching?

 

Each with the ability to steal working ideas from the last teams effort? All while we have no ability to execute 50% of the playbook? With an OC that has no ability or history of adding to the playbook?

 

Their ceiling is 2nd rd exit. Floor is as bad as ones imagination. 

[billsbackto81]

I love the idea of being a "run first" team (at least in concept) with a generational talent at QB like JA.

 

This gives an offense and OC the ability to dictate whatever they want to any opposing defense with equal efficacy. 

 

When you have a RB/RBs and O line that can consistently get you over 100 yds and a QB that can throw up 300 any given Sunday, that is a deadly combo. 

 

ATM, I have my doubts we have the horses at WR and the OC with the creativity to carry it out.

[BillsShredder83]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

The ends justify the means. 

 

Had it not been that amazing three minute span by Bosa and Benford to open the second half, that score would have been much closer regardless of the time of possession or rush yards. Ultimately, I would have been content with the win, but if not for the defense we are having an entirely different conversation about the offense this week IMO. 

 

I liken it to people that watch MLB games for the deep balls or the NHL for the fights. People want to see the excitement. They want that 80 yard TD pass more than the 10 play 80 yard 7 minute long drive. We live in clip in a world where a 20 second clip on Twitter is what people want. Attention spans aren't long enough these days. 

Yeah youre talking about the general public with no vested interest in the team.

 

Anybody posting on an obscure message board about this team wouldn't hate a 'boring' SB win lol

 

Your take is appropriate on a BillsMafia FB group lol

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Sure. Anyone would. You think DC's will just let this happen lol

 

Happen 4xs in a row. Each week seeing new wrinkles, from progressively better talent & coaching?

 

Each with the ability to steal working ideas from the last teams effort? All while we have no ability to execute 50% of the playbook? With an OC that has no ability or history of adding to the playbook?

 

Their ceiling is 2nd rd exit. Floor is as bad as ones imagination. 

 

I don't expect they can do that every week. If teams stop Cook, then the Bills are in trouble. Unfortunately, the issues the Bills have will have to be fixed in the offseason which doesn't help this season.

[T.E.]

You shouldn't be looking to limit the number of possessions your offense has when you have the best player at football at QB and a shaky defense, and that's what this staff does. It is a bizarre strategy, and it's why this team has not had success playing from behind the last couple of years.

[Ga boy]

17 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said:

The problem I see with it is that the WRs are not catchers just additional blockers and on the field for that reason alone (which is why we can’t pass it). We are paying a guy or 2 big money to be a threat in the passing game just to clear out for the run. It’s a 1950s offense masquerading as a modern high scoring one. Josh Allen himself is nothing more than a threat in this scheme. It’s stupid and not a sustainable model for winning especially given the non complimentary Defensive philosophy—bend don’t break and hope for turnovers.

 

If this was the plan all along, why why why not sign Cook first vs letting him be the last to be paid? In full it really makes me think they have no plans or ideas and are shooting from the hip patching it together this year.

Many here said Cook wasn’t worth it, and the GM agreed.  I said all along to pay him, but I never thought he’d make the team run first, and the GM didn’t either.  I really think the GM and coach thought they had WRs to do the job.  Palmer and Samuel they thought were fast enough.  Btw, Cook is worth it, and if he continues catching more passes, it’s gonna be a beautiful thing.

[billsfan89]

Just now, JoshAllin said:

Run first sounds fine until it isnt, then youre punting early and watching good teams shut it down and score. I'd prefer a pass first and run later, so you get comfortable leads first 

 

The easy answer is it depends on what the defense is giving you 

[Ga boy]

15 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

I don't expect they can do that every week. If teams stop Cook, then the Bills are in trouble. Unfortunately, the issues the Bills have will have to be fixed in the offseason which doesn't help this season.

I think the Steeler game confirmed their identity.  Against Cincy we’ll see the same to keep pretty boy on the bench.  I don’t see how anyone can stop our OL and Cook.  All he needs is a 14 inch hole.  If it’s there, he’ll find it.  Uncanny.

[Lost]

4 minutes ago, Ga boy said:

I think the Steeler game confirmed their identity.  Against Cincy we’ll see the same to keep pretty boy on the bench.  I don’t see how anyone can stop our OL and Cook.  All he needs is a 14 inch hole.  If it’s there, he’ll find it.  Uncanny.

 

It takes quite a man to fill a 14 inch hole.

[GoBills808]

19 minutes ago, T.E. said:

You shouldn't be looking to limit the number of possessions your offense has when you have the best player at football at QB and a shaky defense, and that's what this staff does. It is a bizarre strategy, and it's why this team has not had success playing from behind the last couple of years.

not to mention a ridiculous waste of cap space