Let’s talk about this Drake “marvelous “ Maye 😅

[BillsShredder83]

6 hours ago, Sweats said:

Maye was the only player coming out of the draft that i never wanted to see in the AFCEast..........the kids legit.

 

We are going to have years of problems with the Pats (we've seen this story before)

 

UGH

 

 

In actually for it. Steel sharpens steel. Division been too soft and easy. 

 

I said the same in hoping Rodgers would help Jets become competent. Didn't, but here's a chance I guess.

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Guys like Purdy, Stroud, Tua came on the scene and looked good. Then, they did not look good. They became average to good at best QB's. 

 

Stroud's rookie year is the only one of those that is remotely comparable to Maye this year, and there were a lot of analytics that showed Stroud was getting away with a good amount of turnover luck and that sort of thing. I don't know what to tell people that are still trying to dismiss what Maye has done this year. He and Vrabel/McDaniels are going to be a problem for the next decade. The scary thing is they have a ton of cap space next year so what we're seeing this season is the floor. Don't be surprised if they add AJ Brown or a similar talent. They are probably overachieving this year relative to their talent, but that's what great coaching gets you and the talent is only going to get better.

 

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[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, dcinmuncie said:

i don't know if mcdaniel will ever be a head coach again. he's running out of landing spots in a way. two failed gigs. plus, didn't he reneg on the colts or something like that? 3 or more chances isn't likely the norm.  I'm guessing he doesn't have the best reputation in the world. He's probably a guy who is (and should be) a lifetime O.C.

 

I hear ya, @dcinmuncie.  I personally thought that when McDaniels reneged on the Colts his shots at HC were up.  But what do either of us know, because he got serious looks from Cleveland and then hired by Vegas.  So he seems to have the "golden key" as a sales dude.
 

I suspect you're correct that OC is where he should stay, but I don't know I can say that I understand what governs who does or does not get shots.

[Buffalo716]

Kids definitely talented but let's not act like he's on Pace for 40 touchdowns 

 

He's solid.. NFL game plans have not caught up to them and the game planning gets better for the playoffs 

 

He's playing with a lot of confidence but people remember Jaden Daniels was considered a superstar rising last year and that fell really fast.. CJ Stroud was supposed to be the next big thing that fell fast 

 

Every quarterback is going to hit a slump how you bounce back from it tells a lot more

 

 

[PatsFanNH]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Kids definitely talented but let's not act like he's on Pace for 40 touchdowns 

 

He's solid.. NFL game plans have not caught up to them and the game planning gets better for the playoffs 

 

He's playing with a lot of confidence but people remember Jaden Daniels was considered a superstar rising last year and that fell really fast.. CJ Stroud was supposed to be the next big thing that fell fast 

 

Every quarterback is going to hit a slump how you bounce back from it tells a lot more

 

 

Daniel’s was expected be good coming out of the draft but because of his size and playing style Injury was his big negative which is what happened this year.. he hasn’t been bad he has been injured..  Someone just pointed out that Stroud got away with a lot of turn over worthy plays his rookie year (I’ll believe their research) and Maye has played 25 games now and has broken a record for highest completion percentage EVER on his first 25 games.. that’s a decent sample size.. the difference this year? Competent coaching and he is playing smarter.

[Buffalo716]

18 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Daniel’s was expected be good coming out of the draft but because of his size and playing style Injury was his big negative which is what happened this year.. he hasn’t been bad he has been injured..  Someone just pointed out that Stroud got away with a lot of turn over worthy plays his rookie year (I’ll believe their research) and Maye has played 25 games now and has broken a record for highest completion percentage EVER on his first 25 games.. that’s a decent sample size.. the difference this year? Competent coaching and he is playing smarter.

 

Maye is very solid again

 

But to think he's never going to go through a bad two or three game stretch in his career is literally not true 

 

They were nowhere near a playoff team last year they were not getting playoff caliber game plans.. and it's about to get ramped up to that time 

 

Every single quarterback whether it was Tom Brady Peyton Manning Aaron Rodgers or Josh Allen has gone through some lulls

 

Every quarterback is going to hit a slump.. the difference is the all pros bounce back from that slump still at an all pro level 

 

 while the vast majority do not 

 

People like Blake bortles threw 35 touchdowns and 4,000 yards before and never ever came close to that again and he was a number three overall pick with talent too

 

maye is playing light out.. how he bounces back from a rough stretch will show a lot more about his decade-long ceiling 

 

He literally has faced very little adversity this year which if you watch football you should know that's not good coming into playoff time.. the bills have seen so much adversity that I'd be willing to bet we match up in the playoffs and Josh Allen will rise above Drake Maye because we're going to have a playoff game plan that he's never seen and adversity will hit

 

He's definitely already put himself in the top 10 but that doesn't mean he's guaranteed to be a top three quarterback sure fire HoF

 

The ebbs and flows to a player's career in the NFL are massive 

 

The way New England is playing a good amount of NFL quarterbacks would be looking good with them right now.. it's not like Drake May is taking a non-skilled team and propping them to 10-2.. they are very good and Bought in.. you have wide receivers running open you have solid running backs and a hard hitting defense it's a good team

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716

[Kelly to Allen]

6 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

His accuracy and ball placement reminds me of Brady, as he leads the league in completion percentage…

 

The Bills are screwed, and I’m not joking…

 

While Josh continues to lose a step, with his legs, and the Bills start to fade (a la Marino in the 90s) the Pats are on the path to dominance…

 

Elway is the comp for Allen 

[US Egg]

Maybe it’s been mentioned, but doesn’t New England have big money to throw around in free agency? This kid’s gonna get more tools if that’s the case and Patriots fans are gonna have to wear shades.

[Steptide]

Yes, Maye is really freaking good at the moment. We'll see what the future holds though. Remember how good the 9ers were with purdy a few yrs back when they went to the superbowl? What happened after that when injuries started to happen? Remember how good vrabel had the titans at one point? Point is, we'll see how long they sustain this success. Maybe it's a few years, maybe it's 10 years. 

 

Side note, I actually don't think this is a bad thing for the bills. They have litterally tried to match kc for 5 straight years now. Maybe Beane will beef this team up a bit and start to build this offense 

[Chaos]

I just want to clariy this for everyone.  Maye is not the player Allen is. Maybe someday but not now. 

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[mannc]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Stroud's rookie year is the only one of those that is remotely comparable to Maye this year, and there were a lot of analytics that showed Stroud was getting away with a good amount of turnover luck and that sort of thing. I don't know what to tell people that are still trying to dismiss what Maye has done this year. He and Vrabel/McDaniels are going to be a problem for the next decade. The scary thing is they have a ton of cap space next year so what we're seeing this season is the floor. Don't be surprised if they add AJ Brown or a similar talent. They are probably overachieving this year relative to their talent, but that's what great coaching gets you and the talent is only going to get better.

 

I’m confident that Vrabel will not make the mistake of supporting his franchise QB by spending massive draft capital on undersized, penetrating defensive tackles…

[gobills404]

I think he definitely has superstar potential as he’s an accurate thrower to all 3 levels with good arm strength, size, and mobility. I don’t think he’s had a real superstar performance (yet) though. Never thrown for 300 yards or had more than 3 total TDs and has never put the team on his back in a close win. Best team he’s beat by far is the Bills in week 5 in a game where he had zero TDs and they still needed a game winning FG despite the Bills turning it over 3 times. I think we’ll learn a lot about if he has that “it” factor in the playoffs this year and against a first place schedule next year.

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[PatsFanNH]

23 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Maye is very solid again

 

But to think he's never going to go through a bad two or three game stretch in his career is literally not true 

 

They were nowhere near a playoff team last year they were not getting playoff caliber game plans.. and it's about to get ramped up to that time 

 

Every single quarterback whether it was Tom Brady Peyton Manning Aaron Rodgers or Josh Allen has gone through some lulls

 

Every quarterback is going to hit a slump.. the difference is the all pros bounce back from that slump still at an all pro level 

 

 while the vast majority do not 

 

People like Blake bortles threw 35 touchdowns and 4,000 yards before and never ever came close to that again and he was a number three overall pick with talent too

 

maye is playing light out.. how he bounces back from a rough stretch will show a lot more about his decade-long ceiling 

 

He literally has faced very little adversity this year which if you watch football you should know that's not good coming into playoff time.. the bills have seen so much adversity that I'd be willing to bet we match up in the playoffs and Josh Allen will rise above Drake Maye because we're going to have a playoff game plan that he's never seen and adversity will hit

 

He's definitely already put himself in the top 10 but that doesn't mean he's guaranteed to be a top three quarterback sure fire HoF

 

The ebbs and flows to a player's career in the NFL are massive 

 

The way New England is playing a good amount of NFL quarterbacks would be looking good with them right now.. it's not like Drake May is taking a non-skilled team and propping them to 10-2.. they are very good and Bought in.. you have wide receivers running open you have solid running backs and a hard hitting defense it's a good team

 

 

 

 

Oh yes he will have bad games, every QB has that one or two games where it’s just tough.. I think he will be fine.. he has great poise and he played well last year on a crap team unable to win. 

 

i disagree this O is Drake Maye and his accuracy and ability deliver an amazing deep ball.. an average QB with no real run game wins maybe 7 games so far.. still an improvement but his ability with Macdaniels  as OC brought this O from pure garbage to I think a top 10 O.  Come playoffs I don’t know what will happen, but as long as he plays like he can the games should be close and fun.. 

[BigAl2526]

8 hours ago, Lagoon Blues said:

This is a point most miss.  His OC is a major, not only, reason he is looking so good.

He also has some solid, proven receivers.

[Kelly to Allen]

He's really good but I think buffalo is going to outclass the pats big time in a couple weeks. 

 

No , he's not on Allen's level 

[Buffalo716]

29 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Oh yes he will have bad games, every QB has that one or two games where it’s just tough.. I think he will be fine.. he has great poise and he played well last year on a crap team unable to win. 

 

i disagree this O is Drake Maye and his accuracy and ability deliver an amazing deep ball.. an average QB with no real run game wins maybe 7 games so far.. still an improvement but his ability with Macdaniels  as OC brought this O from pure garbage to I think a top 10 O.  Come playoffs I don’t know what will happen, but as long as he plays like he can the games should be close and fun.. 

Mac Jones threw for 3,800 yards as a rookie and like 68% completion

 

Now obviously Maye has more physical talent 

 

I don't believe your offense is without weapons... you have better wide receivers than the Buffalo Bills .. you literally have guys running way more open than the bills have for 12 games

 

I think Drake Maye is in a great system and is playing with a lot of confidence so he is looking very very good and is a really good quarterback 

 

I have just been coaching and playing an scouting long enough that I don't crown anybody after two seasons 

 

Patrick mahomes came out of the gate throwing 45-50 touchdowns and will never reach that high again.. he's actually regressed slightly 

 

Not always Straight arrow up.. but yes I think Drake Maye is very talented 

 

I got to watch him in high school I thought he had pro bowl plus potential.. but he had to clean up some things.. he had a little hitch in his delivery it was a little long 

 

Nobody doubted his ability to throw the football.. but it takes a lot more than just the ability to spin it to be a consistent top three or five quarterback in the NFL 

 

Nobody has really seen how he will bounce back in the NFL from rough stretches.. but he did have back-to-back rough games in the ACC where he did lose playing with his confidence and swagger against Clemson and North Carolina State .. how he bounces back in the NFL will show a lot 

 

 

Edited 46 minutes ago by Buffalo716

[ChrisWatson#21]

8 hours ago, Billsflyer12 said:

He is better than Josh right now, already.  He also likely has his elite OC for next 5-7 years locked up.  
 

Baring injury he will be in the top QB in league category for next decade.

His numbers this year are better that’s for sure but how much of that is a result of not having a first place schedule like he will next year?  Or the lack of film yet on his new offense?  Or a result of just plaing luck and playing for an elite NFL franchise that doesn’t get penalized as other clubs?  I’ll hold until another year at least beofre reaching that conclusion.

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Stroud's rookie year is the only one of those that is remotely comparable to Maye this year, and there were a lot of analytics that showed Stroud was getting away with a good amount of turnover luck and that sort of thing. I don't know what to tell people that are still trying to dismiss what Maye has done this year. He and Vrabel/McDaniels are going to be a problem for the next decade. The scary thing is they have a ton of cap space next year so what we're seeing this season is the floor. Don't be surprised if they add AJ Brown or a similar talent. They are probably overachieving this year relative to their talent, but that's what great coaching gets you and the talent is only going to get better.

 

Think people are underestimating the talent on their roster 

 

 they have a better defensive cast and better wide receivers than the Buffalo Bills.. the bills just have a better offensive line and James Cook .. getting Dalton Kincaid back is going to change the Buffalo Bills offense

 

Not throwing the quarterback in there 

 

Sure they have cap space but that means they have to also get the right guys.. it doesn't always work out sometimes you pick the wrong ones

 

I don't believe this is a 5 win talented team that Drake Maye is propping up.. jarod Mayo was severely over his head last year.. it is a good football team 

 

I watched Blake bortles throw for 4,000 yards and 35 touchdowns which would have been Buffalo Bills records at the time and he was a top pick who was big and strong and mobile.. the arrow's not always up for everyone when they have a great year... even if Drake Maye is fantastic  and will probably be a really good quarterback.. doesn't mean he's guaranteed to be top three

 

 to become a top three All pro you're going to have to knock out the current all pros...  Josh is knocking out 40 touchdowns a year and he still has people doubt him 

 

Odell Beckham was getting called the next Jerry Rice and he's not sniffing the Hall of Fame.. there's a lot of ebbs and flows to football even with a supremely talented guy like maye

 

Even with Josh breaking NFL records left and right he still goes through Lulls... Drake Maye is going to experience the same 

 

How he bounces back will tell everything

 

The way some people talk about him rn you would think he's a guaranteed four time first team All pro though

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