Week 13 MNF: N.Y. Giants at New England (don't even try talking about the Bills here! ⚠️)

[BRH]

Just now, dcinmuncie said:

That was egregious 

 

it wasnt close to questionable 

 

It’s the kind of call you make if you’re a ref with any self-respect.

[Sojourner]

Just now, Steptide said:

Giants have officially called it a season 

Quite surprising. Mike Kafka is literally coaching for a potential HC job…

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, mannc said:

In just his second year in the league, Maye took a team that was inches away from the first overall pick in the draft, to the best record in the league.  And he’s hardly got an all-star cast around him…

I mean…he’s statistically a bit behind, Stafford is playing one of the harder schedules in the league this year while NE is playing one of the easiest in years, and I think an old dude winning it is just as compelling as a young dude personally.  This next part may not be fair but if it’s reasonably close statistically between the two stafford will get it based on it feeling like his career deserves one 

 

of course stafford could fade but if things continue the way they’re headed it’s 100% going to stafford 

 

reminds me a lot of when Aaron Rodgers got it over Josh in 2020 as far as the setup goes 

[Livinginthepast]

I cannot believe that Maye can last the season. He slips away from pressure so often but one of these days his luck is going to run out and he is going get hammered. 

[FireChans]

Man the Pats are just a good football team. They have looked this way much of the year. Just taking bad teams to the woodshed.

[BRH]

Just now, FireChans said:

Man the Pats are just a good football team. They have looked this way much of the year. Just taking bad teams to the woodshed.

 

Like the Bengals

[Psautcsk]

1 minute ago, Jon in Pasadena said:

Pats WR are wide open on every passing play

Is that allowed?

[Simon]

5 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

There has to be a different standard for a kick returner or an open-field tackle.  That’s not a scrum type of situation.

 

It's more an issue of whether a player is considered "defenseless", i.e. a WR in the process of making a catch, a QB in the pocket looking downfield, a guy getting tagged on a peel back block toward teh LOS on a pick return, etc.

Ballcarriers with clear sightlines that have plenty of time to protect themselves are typically not going to get that call.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, FireChans said:

Man the Pats are just a good football team. They have looked this way much of the year. Just taking bad teams to the woodshed.

They execute. They do the little things that go into winning games. Hate that the Pats are having such a solid season. Going to be interesting to see how they do in the playoffs, where Vrabel teams normally flounder and see if they can do it again next year.

[Buffalo716]

7 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

At which point it becomes subjective, not objective.

 

7 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

At which point it becomes subjective, not objective.

That's true 

 

That's why college has a targeting rule on runners and there is technically no targeting rule in the NFL 

 

Though crown of the helmet still might be illegal.. offensive players cannot use it

Edited 42 minutes ago by Buffalo716

[OZBILLS]

Just now, Heels20X6 said:

Must be nice having my a defensive-minded head coach that is actually good at coaching defense…

He gets the best out of the team. It is a joy to watch

[TheFunPolice]

Oh I want these guys in the playoffs. I want to break hearts 

 

I've been feeling kind of meh all season because I don't feel the hate for KC. Ravens yes, but Patriots hate is special. Like Christmas snow. 

 

It's good to feel awake again! 

[CincyBillsFan]

7 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Do you really want the league to start calling a 15 yrd penalty every time there's helmet contact on a ballcarrier?

I do. They could use the college rule for targeting.  It doesn't happen very often and makes a real difference in protecting the runner AND the tackler.  The key in college is that incidental contact (head lowered by runner) is not a penalty.  The head to head contact must be deliberate with the player lowering his head and launching at the other player.  The play on the KO return was a classic college targeting situation.

 

 

[Simon]

4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Again, when I see the flag stay in the refs pocket when Mahomes is lit up along the sideline I will believe that the rule is being enforced fairly.

 

Dude.

It just happened in a game this month that you were actively watching. 

[Governor]

8 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

It would help if the NFL explicitly told us what the eye in the sky is used for.  It seems to change based on the circumstances of the situation.  

 

 

Sal explained the rule. If a flag is thrown the sky can toss that penalty out but if there’s no flag thrown, the sky can’t then throw a flag after the fact.

[CincyBillsFan]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Im 50/50 on it, but in College Football that’s an easy 15 yard penalty and ejection. 

I bet college football has seen a real reduction in concussions and head/neck injury's as a result of this rule.  

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, OZBILLS said:

He gets the best out of the team. It is a joy to watch

 

LOL.  You get 'joy" watching Vrabel and the Patriots.

 

[Psautcsk]

1 minute ago, OZBILLS said:

He gets the best out of the team. It is a joy to watch

I am finding no joy in the Pats being relevant again

[Casey D]

12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I believe the commentator is correct. This isn’t college football 

But I've seen that called regularly.  If he hit him with a shoulder, that's different.  If that's the rule, plaintiffs' lawyers will have lots of fun if intentional or reckless head-to-head contact is just fine.  

[CincyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Dude.

It just happened in a game this month that you were actively watching. 

Are you talking bout the hit along the sidelines in the game with the team we can't mention?  Because that was different then what happened tonight.