fergie's ire Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 9 hours ago, Chautauqua Mafia said: Because we obviously learned nothing from the von Miller deal Agreed. If Bosa gives us a team friendly deal because he loves the culture, great. But particularly these one year deals are signed by the player so they can use it to get a bigger contract the next year. That's the trap. At this age, he's great as a one year rental but would not be great on a multi-year deal. What they need to do is go out and find the NEXT Bosa...a player who is great and a free agent...but whose recent history means they sign for less and will work on a prove it deal. Quote
Puckman5 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Like many here, I really like what I see from Bosa. He's talented and tenacious. The issue becomes what you have to pay to resign him and potentially deal with the torch and pitchfork crew (me included) calling for your job because you overpaid or didn't get the value you hoped for. Quote
streetkings01 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 10 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Where did I say that ? I can’t stand when people throw in hypothetical nonsense to bolster their arguments. The fact is the Bills did turn it over twice and they were losing the game up until Bosa demolished Rodgers. If you believe in momentum then that was the point of the game where it shifted to Buffalo’s end. Dude you edited your post…..you clearly said Bosa saved our season…..not that serious tho. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted 12 hours ago Author Posted 12 hours ago 15 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: Dude you edited your post…..you clearly said Bosa saved our season…..not that serious tho. Lmao i never would say that dumb ***** Bills had an 84% chance of making the postseason coming into the Steelers game. Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 11 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: The entire $7.2M cap hit gets added into the new contract. The Bills have options where to put that. I do not believe this to be true. It is my understanding that the 7.2 remaining in prorated signing bonus for the next four seasons must remain over those years (2026-2030). The only thing that re-signing or extending him would do from a dead cap perspective would be to stop from the full amount from immediately accelerating and becoming due. 1 2 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I do not believe this to be true. It is my understanding that the 7.2 remaining in prorated signing bonus for the next four seasons must remain over those years (2026-2030). The only thing that re-signing or extending him would do from a dead cap perspective would be to stop from the full amount from immediately accelerating and becoming due. Thanks. That does make sense. does the same hold true if there was restructure money? Quote
HappyDays Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago I think Bosa might have to spend the rest of his career on 1 year deals like Clowney. Teams aren't going to trust him to stay healthy enough to warrant anything more than that. Within that context yeah I'd bring him back on a 1 year deal since he costs $7.2M against the cap even if we don't bring him back. But if we bring him back we have to give him less snaps and save him for critical pass rush situations. 1 2 Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Thanks. That does make sense. does the same hold true if there was restructure money? That is my understanding. As you likely know, this is just a way to spread the number of future years, offering immediate relief from a cap perspective. Restructures or protracted bonuses are paid out in cash to the player immediately, though the debt is shared over future years. I do not believe these amounts can be altered. For example looking at Josh Allen’s recent extension, you see he already carries a restructure proration, despite having just signed this deal in March. This is money already paid to Allen prior to this contract, but it is still on cap from his previous deal for $37 million over the next four years from money that was dead cap the previous deal, probably from when they restructured him in 2024. So how does it effect Bosa? They can prevent the 7.2 from fully accelerating if they re-sign. The 1.8 for next years dead cap will remain (with the next three years 2027-2030 at 1.8 remaining too). That free’s up 5.4 million that would have been dead money in 2026. Depending on how they structure a new deal, it’s possible they could actually save money by extending him next season. 1 year - 14 million dollars, with a 9 million dollar signing bonus and 5 mil in base salary. This would in theory save them money on the cap next year, although assuming they spread the bonus over the next 5 years like they did this past off season, his dead cap grows from 1.8 a year to 3.6 a year…and if it all accelerated in 2027 it’d be immediately 12.6 in dead money due. Irresponsible but a way they could look at pushing money down the road. 1 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: That is my understanding. As you likely know, this is just a way to spread the number of future years, offering immediate relief from a cap perspective. Restructures or protracted bonuses are paid out in cash to the player immediately, though the debt is shared over future years. I do not believe these amounts can be altered. For example looking at Josh Allen’s recent extension, you see he already carries a restructure proration, despite having just signed this deal in March. This is money already paid to Allen prior to this contract, but it is still on cap from his previous deal for $37 million over the next four years from money that was dead cap the previous deal, probably from when they restructured him in 2024. So how does it effect Bosa? They can prevent the 7.2 from fully accelerating if they re-sign. The 1.8 for next years dead cap will remain (with the next three years 2027-2030 at 1.8 remaining too). That free’s up 5.4 million that would have been dead money in 2026. Depending on how they structure a new deal, it’s possible they could actually save money by extending him next season. 1 year - 14 million dollars, with a 9 million dollar signing bonus and 5 mil in base salary. This would in theory save them money on the cap next year, although assuming they spread the bonus over the next 5 years like they did this past off season, his dead cap grows from 1.8 a year to 3.6 a year…and if it all accelerated in 2027 it’d be immediately 12.6 in dead money due. Irresponsible but a way they could look at pushing money down the road. Thanks. the thing with Bosa is getting him back for not much more than what would have been dead cap anyways. 2 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago If the right deal can be made, I'd be OK with it. Quote
Aesop Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 100%. Hes a difference maker when hes in. Hoping for a discount, but i understand he probably only has one more massive pay day left. Fingers crossed. 1 Quote
gordong Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago he hurt his hamstring against the steelers and could miss some time.... so there goes the pass rush if he misses games. Quote
Bill from NYC Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 18 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: More likely, they go back to the DE well in round 1. This would not surprise me one bit. Last season their first five picks were on defensive players. They sixth pick was a TE; the next pick was another DB to make six of their first 7 picks defensive players. The Bills definitely need wrs. They also (imo) need depth on the offensive line. I think that drafting wrs and OL would make Josh even more efficient and actually put less pressure on the defense. Will this happen? Sadly I doubt it. 2 Quote
Xwnyer Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago mow hurt and guess what muscle a HAMSTRING. do we not stretch proper???? he hasn't made the big impact but playing alot more than we expected or projected Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, Xwnyer said: mow hurt and guess what muscle a HAMSTRING. do we not stretch proper???? he hasn't made the big impact but playing alot more than we expected or projected A lot of Bosa’s plays came in big moments. Every game he has a sack, the Bills won FWIW 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, Xwnyer said: mow hurt and guess what muscle a HAMSTRING. do we not stretch proper???? he hasn't made the big impact but playing alot more than we expected or projected WUT? Maybe his sack numbers are lower than we'd like....but he has 5 FORCED FUMBLES which leads the league and ties a Bills franchise record His play the other day may have been the turning point in our season IMO 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: This would not surprise me one bit. Last season their first five picks were on defensive players. They sixth pick was a TE; the next pick was another DB to make six of their first 7 picks defensive players. The Bills definitely need wrs. They also (imo) need depth on the offensive line. I think that drafting wrs and OL would make Josh even more efficient and actually put less pressure on the defense. Will this happen? Sadly I doubt it. Yea this years offseason will be very interesting. They still have holes on defense(like always) still need help at Defensive line, need to upgrade the LB spot or at the very least the depth, and they need secondary depth especially if Dorian Strong retires. On the flip side we all now know we need WRs(including Beane finally) . The offensive line will have 1 or 2 departures depending on Edwards and McGovern and Torrence has 1 year left. Definitely need help on the interior, if you have faith in Lundt going into year 2, I think I’d move Grable inside and start cross training him there to kind of be our new Anderson. 2 Quote
The Jokeman Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago On 12/1/2025 at 5:45 AM, Matt_In_NH said: Uh he has been a she’ll of himself with his wrist or hand for a few weeks and he pulled a hammy yesterday. But I agree he would be an asset still worth signing. and that shell made a game changing play with his sack/fumble of Rodgers this weekend. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: and that shell made a game changing play with his sack/fumble of Rodgers this weekend. He did not have the hand as heavily bandaged. Don’t take what u said the wrong way. He was slowed by that injury, do you disagree? Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago On 11/30/2025 at 5:47 PM, boyst said: Let's see if he can make it the rest of the season. Yeah the timing of this topic is interesting. Hoping the MRI went well. On 11/30/2025 at 5:47 PM, HamptonBillsfan said: We are seeing the best Joey Bosa in 5 years. He’s staying healthy and our best pass rusher. A real leader and a great signing by Beane. No arguments there. Absolutely. On 11/30/2025 at 6:09 PM, ColoradoBills said: Just want fans to know that Bosa lead the league with 5 forced fumbles. On 11/30/2025 at 6:53 PM, mikemac2001 said: It was just nice to see a DE hit the Qb Pet peeve while on the subject... I've seen some "professional writers" (beat writers) characterize the hit on Rodgers as a "strip sack." A "strip" is a very distinct physical movement. The fumble Bosa caused was due to the hit jarring the ball out and/or possibly a punch out but it was not stripped. People who write for a living should have the ability to describe things accurately. That is all. On 11/30/2025 at 8:39 PM, Dafan said: If Oliver and Hoetch were healthy...you'd see a big difference in those numbers I'd think. Yes, what could have been. The defensive injuries have been a big story of this season. 21 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: He's a guy I would only go year to year on. I think if he gets the longer contract, he may be less open to play through some things that he has this year. Keep him motivated and he's going to ball out I think the treatment of the Bosa situation is that you let him see what the market is and make him an offer. Maybe he stays, maybe he goes but you can't adopt a "sign him at all costs" attitude nor can you overpay your valuation. The age and injury history are too much to ignore. Hopefully if the numbers are close, he re-ups with the Bills because he likes it here. 19 hours ago, JoshAllin said: Damn, no game ball for Bosa, I'd say he was a big part of those 2 turnovers recovered by Benford, the fumble and getting Rodgers out the game I'm always ready to cringe when McDermott speaks but I'm also too curious to not watch the video. There are a few real bonus moments in this one that make it worth watching. 1 Quote
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