That's No Moon Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: He knows how to buy a franchise for close to 2 billion and turn it into a franchise worth close to 7 billion. Even the bs hockey team is worth more than he bought it for. Just because fans here are pissy because the GM of the football team didnt get good wrs this offseason doesnt mean Pegula doesnt know sh**t about running a team. Hes a businessmen first not a sports fan. So the Sabres are worth more because of what thing that Terry has done? The Bills are worth more because of Josh Allen, the stadium we paid for a bunch of, and fact that the rest of league has escalated in value and prints money. It's not like he's out there wheeling and dealing delivering value. 2 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: So the Sabres are worth more because of what thing that Terry has done? The Bills are worth more because of Josh Allen, the stadium we paid for a bunch of, and fact that the rest of league has escalated in value and prints money. It's not like he's out there wheeling and dealing delivering value. If Pegula had not bought the Bills there would be no new stadium or Josh Allen in Buffalo. Thats the point. If you cant see the investment the Pegulas have made in Buffalo and the business sense the guy has youre just a bitter hockey fan. The football team is worlds better than it was before he bought it. If you want to hate Terry over a league that is on par with the WNBA be my guest. Edited 2 hours ago by thenorthremembers Quote
That's No Moon Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: If Pegula had not bought the Bills there would be no new stadium or Josh Allen in Buffalo. Thats the point. If you cant see the investment the Pegulas have made in Buffalo and the business sense the guy has youre just a bitter hickey fan. The football team is worlds better than it was before he bought it. Beane and McDemott were not his first hires and if you recall he hired McDermott first then Beane which is highly unusual. Then the chosen group traded away Patrick Mahomes. They got very fortunate with Allen the following year and how gone through a revolving door at offensive coordinator since because his chosen coach can't figure it out. From his perspective Terry got lucky with the football team and is now afraid to touch it. He did everything wrong with the hockey team and has given up. Beane and McDermott have jobs for life. It makes no difference how bad they mess up drafts or how badly they mishandle the talent around Allen. Neither one will be fired. Ever. 1 1 Quote
That's No Moon Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 9 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: The football team is worlds better than it was before he bought it. The only part of this team that is worlds better since Terry bought it is the quarterback. Drop Josh Allen onto any number of the drought teams with great defenses and weapons but no QB and they'd be at least as successful as this team. Playoffs, no championships, no Super Bowl appearances. Give Allen Lee Evans, Eric Moulds and Peerless Price with Travis Henry to hand off to. No playoffs? How about with a defense that sacks opposing QBs 65 times in a year? Or Jim Schwartz's defense that Terry hired Rex to throw away. Allen is the difference. Not Terry. 3 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Beane and McDemott were not his first hires and if you recall he hired McDermott first then Beane which is highly unusual. Then the chosen group traded away Patrick Mahomes. They got very fortunate with Allen the following year and how gone through a revolving door at offensive coordinator since because his chosen coach can't figure it out. From his perspective Terry got lucky with the football team and is now afraid to touch it. He did everything wrong with the hockey team and has given up. Beane and McDermott have jobs for life. It makes no difference how bad they mess up drafts or how badly they mishandle the talent around Allen. Neither one will be fired. Ever. Sorry the Sabres suck. I am thankful he saved the Bills from being sold to an owner who would have moved them within a few years. They've had 2 losing seasons since he took over the team. Hes been more than lucky. 7 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: The only part of this team that is worlds better since Terry bought it is the quarterback. Drop Josh Allen onto any number of the drought teams with great defenses and weapons but no QB and they'd be at least as successful as this team. Playoffs, no championships, no Super Bowl appearances. Give Allen Lee Evans, Eric Moulds and Peerless Price with Travis Henry to hand off to. No playoffs? How about with a defense that sacks opposing QBs 65 times in a year? Or Jim Schwartz's defense that Terry hired Rex to throw away. Allen is the difference. Not Terry. They made the playoffs without Allen. Just be honest about it. You're one of the few people in the US who watches hockey and youre mad the Sabres suck. The NHL is a fringe league that averages about the same amount of viewers on average as the WNBA. He doesnt sink money into the team because its not worth it. Edited 2 hours ago by thenorthremembers Quote
Nitro Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Samuel is a china doll. Can not stay healthy. I hope he never sees the field again as a Bill. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: He knows how to buy a franchise for close to 2 billion and turn it into a franchise worth close to 7 billion. Even the bs hockey team is worth more than he bought it for. Just because fans here are pissy because the GM of the football team didnt get good wrs this offseason doesnt mean Pegula doesnt know sh**t about running a team. Hes a businessmen first not a sports fan. Agreed, he honestly doesn't care. Now some fans are gonna scream about the 400 mill or so this offseason for bonuses. Again... its literally a tax write off. Quote
That's No Moon Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Sorry the Sabres suck. I am thankful he saved the Bills from being sold to an owner who would have moved them within a few years. They've had 2 losing seasons since he took over the team. Hes been more than lucky. They made the playoffs without Allen. Just be honest about it. You're one of the few people in the US who watches hockey and youre mad the Sabres suck. They made the playoffs ina. Year their brain trust intentionally started Nathan Peterman after trading away Mahomes. Yes. Be proud. Terry was the difference there all along. And there's nothing to hide from I'm extremely pissed off at how bad the Sabres are. I don't watch hockey at all anymore they've been so bad for so long. I'm also not going to wash Terry's undercarriage for doing what a trained monkey with a checkbook could have done with Josh Allen. The football team has underachieved for several years and now frankly isn't very good anymore. Sure they still win some and are better than the halcyon days of Gregg Williams but they aren't winning more this year than last and I struggle to see how the leadership has set them up for better success next year. They went all in and messed it up. This year is one and done at best and it's not just because they didn't sign any wide receivers this year. Edited 2 hours ago by That's No Moon Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 45 minutes ago, NoName said: What makes you say that? I'm not saying that he's faking injuries but in his NFL career, Samuel has played in 111 out of a possible 143 games which is 77.6% and averages to missing nearly 4 games per year. With the Bills he's 20 of 28 games which is 71.4% and averages to missing nearly 5 games per year. Obviously being placed on IR is gonna make those numbers even worse. His availability isn't the worst we've seen but it's been far from great. I wouldn't be surprised if he retires after this year. He's made nearly $57 million in the NFL. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 22 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Beane and McDemott were not his first hires and if you recall he hired McDermott first then Beane which is highly unusual. Then the chosen group traded away Patrick Mahomes. They got very fortunate with Allen the following year and how gone through a revolving door at offensive coordinator since because his chosen coach can't figure it out. From his perspective Terry got lucky with the football team and is now afraid to touch it. He did everything wrong with the hockey team and has given up. Beane and McDermott have jobs for life. It makes no difference how bad they mess up drafts or how badly they mishandle the talent around Allen. Neither one will be fired. Ever. If thats truly the case then Josh needs to hold out and demand a trade or retire. Look I love the Bills, but if this is how its going to be Josh shouldn't have to keep putting up with it. Quote
thenorthremembers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: They made the playoffs ina. Year their brain trust intentionally started Nathan Peterman after trading away Mahomes. Yes. Be proud. Terry was the difference there all along. And there's nothing to hide from I'm extremely pissed off at how bad the Sabres are. I don't watch hockey at all anymore they've been so bad for so long. I'm also not going to wash Terry's undercarriage for doing what a trained monkey with a checkbook could have done with Josh Allen. The football team has underachieved for several years and now frankly isn't very good anymore. Sure they still win some and are better than the halcyon days of Gregg Williams but they aren't winning more this year than last and I struggle to see how the leadership has set them up for better success next year. They went all in and messed it up. This year is one and done at best and it's not just because they didn't sign any wide receivers this year. Bills fans, including those on this board, literally booed the Allen pick. Wrong Josh...remember that? The Bills are something like 108-66 since Pegula bought the team. They won 13 games last year and they've underachieved for years? Hopefully you get your way and Pegula sells both teams. You wont have to worry about having expectations because professional sports wont exist in Buffalo any longer. Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, DapperCam said: It's pretty much a known thing that guys have little injuries all the time and play though them Especially considering he generally plays limited snaps…in terms of raw number it’s anywhere from 20-35 snaps a game. Surprised he can’t gut it out more often. Quote
WotAGuy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: I'm not saying that he's faking injuries but in his NFL career, Samuel has played in 111 out of a possible 143 games which is 77.6% and averages to missing nearly 4 games per year. With the Bills he's 20 of 28 games which is 71.4% and averages to missing nearly 5 games per year. Obviously being placed on IR is gonna make those numbers even worse. His availability isn't the worst we've seen but it's been far from great. I wouldn't be surprised if he retires after this year. He's made nearly $57 million in the NFL. Honestly, it seems like he’s missed 71% of the games. He’s invisible when he has been in there 1 Quote
FireChans Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Sorry the Sabres suck. I am thankful he saved the Bills from being sold to an owner who would have moved them within a few years. They've had 2 losing seasons since he took over the team. Hes been more than lucky Do you ever think about what a coincidence it is that the Bills got a great owner, a great HC, a great GM and a great QB all basically at the same time? 15 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: If thats truly the case then Josh needs to hold out and demand a trade or retire. Look I love the Bills, but if this is how its going to be Josh shouldn't have to keep putting up with it. LA will look mighty fine when Stafford hangs it up. Quote
GoBills808 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Do you ever think about what a coincidence it is that the Bills got a great owner, a great HC, a great GM and a great QB all basically at the same time? LA will look mighty fine when Stafford hangs it up. Total coincidence! Quote
FireChans Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Total coincidence! Look how great the Hunt family is as owners. Right at the same time they drafted Mahomes. Uncanny! Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, FireChans said: Do you ever think about what a coincidence it is that the Bills got a great owner, a great HC, a great GM and a great QB all basically at the same time? 11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Total coincidence! 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: Look how great the Hunt family is as owners. Right at the same time they drafted Mahomes. Uncanny! To their credit, the Hunts also hired Andy Reid. Quote
GoBills808 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Sierra Foothills said: To their credit, the Hunts also hired Andy Reid. Andy Reid was not Andy Reid before he got Mahomes Offensive genius yes. But that he'd be in the GOAT conversation pre Mahomes was laughable Quote
LEBills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Do not sign mid tier FA wide receivers…it’s so rare they do better than they did on their original team and the contracts are expensive due to the premium position. Two summers in a row with Samuel and Palmer… Edited 1 hour ago by LEBills Quote
gtw3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: Does that mean we have a PS spot open? I hear Elijah Moore is available You spelled "Isaiah McKenzie" incorrectly Quote
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