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12 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I just strongly disagree with this. For my money he's the very best in the NFL at winning vertical separation vs 1v1 coverage outside and the ball skills while not quite that good are still elite. When Philly decides to throw him the ball as much as his skill set deserves he racks up 100 yard games with ease. His usage there has been puzzling and I would love the opportunity to make it right.

You quoted me really soon as I was still going over in my brain 

 

But I said solidly top five to top eight I was just being conservative originally .. might even be the fourth best but I don't think he's a Hall of famer

 

Yet he's not Andre Johnson.. he's not a top two or three wide receiver in the NFL he is way too much consistency issues we could agree to disagree

 

He is very very good and has been elite 

 

He's certainly terrific and I would take a talent like that.. but people turned on diggs here.. as soon as AJ Brown started dropping balls people would turn on him too

 

He is terrific though

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5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

He is very very good he's not a hall of fame wide receiver.. you're consistently a top two or three guy your Hall of famer 

 

Eh there are only 29 WRs in the HoF... It is crazy crazy hard to get in. I thought Deandre Hopkins was the best in the NFL for a couple seasons and I don't think even he is a lock. I don't think any WR playing today is a lock for that matter. Cooper Kupp has the strongest case but I wouldn't guarantee it. For Brown, Chase, Jefferson, etc. it's going to depend on what they do over the rest of their careers. If Brown came here and won a couple Super Bowls while putting up 1,500 yard seasons (which I think is very realistic given his skill set and how it meshes with Allen's skill set) he would have a case. Compare that to Diggs who has absolutely no case at all.

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Looks like Jordan Addison was recently arrested. 

 

Vikings' Jordan Addison Refused To Leave Casino Bar Before Arrest, Cops Say https://share.google/jZZh3kpmfdXkedu2Q

 

"It's not the first time the young wideout has been in trouble with the law.

He was cited for speeding and reckless driving before his first training camp in July 2023, and in 2024, he was accused of drinking and driving when he was found sleeping in his Rolls-Royce on a highway near LAX."

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31 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Interesting.  

 

Personally, I would prefer Beane aggressively pursue Mike Evans first.  Grab him real quick with a slight overpay of around $18M (Spotrac has market value at $13.3M).  Sure, he is older and was injured, but back now and a real professional, non-diva, cultural fit type.

 

Then, if it can be done , trade for one of the misplaced talented youngsters - Addison or MHJ.

 

I would much prefer Evans and Addison over AJ Brown.


I believe Evans to the Bills makes a lot of sense for a bridge guy to a younger guy. Not sure if Evans would want to come to Buffalo after spending his whole career in Tampa. Maybe the SB/Josh Allen pitch is enough to get it done. I do think he’s a good short term option

 

Think Pierce is out of their price range and Doubs might be more up our alley but could see him getting more than projected as well 

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27 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:


I believe Evans to the Bills makes a lot of sense for a bridge guy to a younger guy. Not sure if Evans would want to come to Buffalo after spending his whole career in Tampa. Maybe the SB/Josh Allen pitch is enough to get it done. I do think he’s a good short term option

 

Think Pierce is out of their price range and Doubs might be more up our alley but could see him getting more than projected as well 

I think M Evans last contract w Tampa was kind of a lifetime achievement type overpay with the semi-mutual understanding of parting ways afterwards.  Tampa has drafted WRs accordingly (Ebuka last yr and someone else the year before).

 

Evans is older (will be 33) and seems to be out several games every year - although up until this year always made his 1,000 yards.  But Evans doesn't come with the diva drama of a Pickens or AJ Brown and seems a real team player.

 

Yes, I would still want an additional WR, but for a quick move out of the FA gate, M Evans would be fantastic.

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I am going with someone younger via trade if Justin Jefferson is not available and that would be my first call this offseason. Secondary options would be someone like BTJ from Jax and MHJ from AZ.

 

Pickens is a head case. I would be scared giving him a long deal but doubt he is a culture fit and Dallas will tag him so won’t be an option. AJ Brown is a tough one but is going to turn 29 and who knows whether he will look for a new contract. I don’t want to be on the wrong side when he hits his decline like Diggs and don’t see him as a fit in Brady’s offense. Mike Evans could work as short term solution but it starts with Jefferson for me. Will need at least one via FA/Trade and another via the Draft. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I put Brown in the same tier as Justin Jefferson and Ja'Marr Chase. Diggs as good as he was for us was never at that level. But I won't argue if you see if it differently. In any case trading a 1st for Diggs ended up being a roaring success regardless of how it ended. It was arguably the best use of a 1st round pick Beane has made other than Allen. Doing the same trade but on a player that has been even more successful than Diggs was pre-Buffalo is an absolute no brainer. The guy has made Ryan Tannehill and Jalen Hurts look like top tier QBs.

 

I disagree strongly on that, his first three years here he was absolutely a dominant player. He dominated less physically and more technically and I think that often counts against him in the "eye test." 

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8 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I think M Evans last contract w Tampa was kind of a lifetime achievement type overpay with the semi-mutual understanding of parting ways afterwards.  Tampa has drafted WRs accordingly (Ebuka last yr and someone else the year before).

 

Evans is older (will be 33) and seems to be out several games every year - although up until this year always made his 1,000 yards.  But Evans doesn't come with the diva drama of a Pickens or AJ Brown and seems a real team player.

 

Yes, I would still want an additional WR, but for a quick move out of the FA gate, M Evans would be fantastic.

 

My guy Jalen McMillan in the 3rd in 2024.

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On 11/23/2025 at 11:17 PM, HappyDays said:

It's a reasonable thought, however even though I like Addison I think he's capped out as a WR2. I'm looking for a true WR1. Of course I recognize that's easier said than done. With Miami probably making sweeping changes I'd circle back on Waddle and see if that's a viable option. Maybe check on Olave again if he and New Orleans can't come together on a deal.

 

Or how about the wildest dreams ideas of AJ Brown or Justin Jefferson? Brown and Philly look headed for an inevitable separation. Minnesota might realize Jefferson is no help to them until they get a legit QB which a blockbuster deal could help them acquire.

 

Some other name will be available that no one is talking about. Nobody thought Davante Adams or DK Metcalf would become trade candidates last year. There will be options.

 

I have always thought that Beane will take another run at  Waddle before the draft, now that the coaching regime is gone in Miami.   Watch for this.  

 

I am convinced Beane tried at the deadline but Miami was still sort of in the hunt and the team said no.  

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On 1/14/2026 at 10:33 AM, gonzo1105 said:


If they go WR in the 30s , I think a guy that would be on their radar is Germie Bernard from Alabama. Gets overshadowed by Ryan Williams not because he is lesser a receiver but is the steak more to Williams sizzle. 
 

Good intermediate route runner, excellent blocker, kind of guy the Bills I think would fall in love with as a person. Will he ever be a # 1 probably not but he’d be a solid 2 option for years 

Ryan Williams is the Jadeveon Clowney of college offenses lol living off one play

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23 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yep he's a diva. He also could be a 1,500 yard WR with Allen, and be the reason that we win some of those close games that perenially keep us out of the #1 seed and the Super Bowl. It's a no brainer if he's available. Right now he's unhappy because Jalen Hurts is only comfortable playing in a Mickey Mouse passing offense and he feels that his talents are being wasted. You would have to give him extra attention to keep him happy and occasionally feed him targets. That shouldn't make any Bills fan hesitate. You want players on your offense that deserve to be fed targets because they're just flat out better than the guy across from them. The same exact offense we have this year but with a legit stud outside could be unstoppable.

I truly don't think anyone is sincerely believing they'd balk at AJ Brown. Ive seen this around this board 15+ years.

 

Find the smallest reason to nitpick an absolute stud, that fits what we need perfectly... that way if/when we don't get them, they have an excuse lined up how were "happy" we didn't get them lol

 

You can have an alpha WR1 with an ego, or you can have the Josh Palmers and Deonte Harris's/Harty.

 

Its like my grampa used to say [actually whisper] - "You can marry a smoking hot Latina in her 20s, or you can live a life where seeing your wife with a frying pan doesn't cause a 'fight or flight' response. You cant do both"

 

I married Asian lol

 

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15 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Looks like Jordan Addison was recently arrested. 

 

Vikings' Jordan Addison Refused To Leave Casino Bar Before Arrest, Cops Say https://share.google/jZZh3kpmfdXkedu2Q

 

"It's not the first time the young wideout has been in trouble with the law.

He was cited for speeding and reckless driving before his first training camp in July 2023, and in 2024, he was accused of drinking and driving when he was found sleeping in his Rolls-Royce on a highway near LAX."

 

Perfect timing - driving down that trade value.  

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16 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I mean diggs has more all pros, more pro bowls 

 

His best season is better than Brown's best season 

 

AJ Brown is younger.. if you both had the chance to take a 28-year-old diggs or brown diggs still has a lot more versatility, better route running , better awareness in zone

 

He's just not jacked like AJ Brown

 

 

You may be right about all of that.  I don't follow closely enough, and am frankly not qualified to speak on their respective route running and awareness in zone.  I will say that there is a big factor  you never mentioned when talking about All Pros and Pro Bowls -- who was throwing Brown the ball?   Diggs didn't take off until he played with Allen.  AJ Brown has had Tannehill and Hurts throwing him the ball, has he not?  Big gap there.  In other words, could you envision Brown racking up more All Pro/Pro Bowls playing with Allen than playing with those other guys?  Maybe he doesn't, but I 'd say Josh Allen would inflate his stats quite a bit.   

 

Is AJ Brown the answer? I don't know.    He was considered to be the third or fourth best receiver in the league not long ago by quite a few people.  Was this year more because of Hurts or has Brown declined?  I don't know.  

 

EDIT:: I see this has been covered above. 

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21 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Imagine using AJ Brown and Stefon Diggs in the same sentence 😂

Imagine pining for A.J. Brown in 2026.

The dude straight up sucks for what he's being paid. Did you not watch him alligator arm 4 balls and cost his team the game?

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4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Imagine pining for A.J. Brown in 2026.

The dude straight up sucks for what he's being paid.

lmao wtf. 

 

SInce 2022:

 

AJ Brown has 5034 yards and 32 TDs

 

JJ has 5464 yards and 25 TDs. Makes $3M more than AJB.


Chase has 5382 yards and 41 TDs. Makes $8M more than AJB.

 

ARSB has 5340 yards and 39 TDs. Makes $2M less than AJB.

 

Lamb has 5379 yards and 30 TDs. Makes $2M more than AJB

 

Bad take factory.

 

 

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1 minute ago, FireChans said:

lmao wtf. 

 

SInce 2022:

 

AJ Brown has 5034 yards and 32 TDs

 

JJ has 5464 yards and 25 TDs. Makes $3M more than AJB.


Chase has 5382 yards and 41 TDs. Makes $8M more than AJB.

 

ARSB has 5340 yards and 39 TDs. Makes $2M less than AJB.

 

Lamb has 5379 yards and 30 TDs. Makes $2M more than AJB

 

Bad take factory.

 

 

Did you even try to contextualize those stats or did you just rush to the comments trying to show how right you are?

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Just now, BullBuchanan said:

Did you even try to contextualize those stats or did you just rush to the comments trying to show how right you are?

I'm not sure what context you are looking for, but for the record, I rushed to the comments to show how wrong you are.

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8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I'm not sure what context you are looking for, but for the record, I rushed to the comments to show how wrong you are.

And sadly that's pretty typical.

As someone who has actually watched him play most of the games he's played in the last two years, he's a very low effort player who is absolutely useless when he isn't going off.

This is backed up by his stats:

He had 5 games this year with under 30 receiving yards, including a brutal performance in the playoffs. he had 8 games under 50 yards.
His performance in the playoffs with Philly alone (it's worse if you include Tenn) is abysmal. In 8 games, he has zero 100 yard games, zero multi touchdown games, and 6 of those 8 games he was under 45 yards, with 5 of those 6 games being under 30.

If you want a player who will rack up 200 yards and 4 TDs against the jets in week 8, he's your guy. If you're looking for the missing piece to put you over the top, he's proven to be the farthest thing from that player.
 

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3 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

 

I have always thought that Beane will take another run at  Waddle before the draft, now that the coaching regime is gone in Miami.   Watch for this.  

 

I am convinced Beane tried at the deadline but Miami was still sort of in the hunt and the team said no.  

 

Hope not gets dinged up a lot and to me is clearly a #2 reciever. If I am trading anything of significance it better be for a #1 WR.

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18 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

He had 5 games this year with under 30 receiving yards, including a brutal performance in the playoffs. he had 8 games under 50 yards.

Let’s play!

 

Justin Jefferson had 8 games under 50 yards this season. Bust? Bum? Not worth what he’s paid in 2026?

 

19 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

His performance in the playoffs with Philly alone (it's worse if you include Tenn) is abysmal. In 8 games, he has zero 100 yard games, zero multi touchdown games, and 6 of those 8 games he was under 45 yards, with 5 of those 6 games being under 30

Justin Jefferson in his playoff career has never had a 100 yard game. He has no playoff TDs, let alone multi TD games and in half his games he’s under 50 yards.

 

Context Ba beeee

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