HOUSE Posted January 14 Posted January 14 He will look great on IR with the rest of the team. Maybe we can have a banquet, cook some ribs Quote
HappyDays Posted January 14 Posted January 14 19 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Imagine running Diggs out of town and then trading for AJ Brown on a premium contract. Keep that dude as far away from this team as possible. Imagine using AJ Brown and Stefon Diggs in the same sentence 😂 1 1 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted January 14 Posted January 14 3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: The one thing that I am encouraged about in terms of Beane (assuming he remains), is that he was very aggressive for a WR1 caliber player at the deadline. So my expectation is that will not change heading into the offseason. But the issue remains, what is realistically available as there isn't much in FA. So leaves just the draft and/or trades. And as we sit here today, there are not many obvious trade targets in terms of availability. Waddle situation is going to be interesting to follow with a new FO essentially facing a full rebuild there, or at least should be thinking full rebuild. So that would lead one to believe Waddle should be a trade option again. Although, not sure how Beane feels about going after him again or not after what seems to have Of course Beane is going to be here. All this talk of no talent is just a media driven narrative meaning they can't quantify what it takes to have an excellent run game. The Bills are in the Divisional round (again), this isn't some flop. And the Beane pressure comes from one positional group that happens to have high visibility and has been decimated by an insane amount of injuries (and by description doesn't allow for all pass catchers). IMO, Beane's mention of trying for Waddle was to signal to the fanbase that he recognizes the WR problem. He will be aggressive. I think there are FA options- Pickens (risky), M Evans (yes!), J Jennings (excellent), B Aiyuk (would welcome, not sure of FA?), and A Pierce (I am not a fan though) Then you have the trade candidates: as the OP mentions Addison (I like it), you mentioned DJ Moore (nice), AJ Brown (risky and maybe too expensive but works), Waddle (yes but longshot), G Wilson (yes, but longshot), and MHJ (nice!). I would love a mix and match (vet +youngster) like M Evans/J Jennings + MHJ/Addison. 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 11/23/2025 at 6:08 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: I'm hoping Beane is on the phone with 31 other teams searching for a trade. The only guy that's scheduled to be a FA is Pickens and the drum beat is already starting that they may franchise tag him in Dallas. Beane is going to have to get creative with the solution because help isn't coming the FA route. Addison is definitely someone they should call on. Alec Pierce, Jauan Jennings and Romeo Doubs are all upcoming UFAs and all guys we should be targeting as more "affordable" options than Pickens, though I think Pierce is going to get paid. 1 Quote
Virgil Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 11/23/2025 at 10:58 PM, gonzo1105 said: Please feel free to merge this with something else if applicable and this is purely speculative but I do wonder if Jordan Addison will be a target this offseason for the Bills. There were a lot of rumors that he was going to be the selection if he made it to the Bills pick the year they took Dalton Kincaid. There were also rumors that he was available to be traded for this past offseason season but not sure how serious that was. He would be in his 4th year of his rookie contract with the 5th year option so the Bills would have control for two years. He would be an instant upgrade to our WR corps and possibly be our # 1 WR. He looks like he has absolutely no chemistry with J.J. McCarthy who frankly has been terrible and they have already sunk 30+ a year with Jefferson. Have sunk decent money into Hockenson, and drafted Tai Felton in the 3rd round who is a very similar WR to Addison Might have to dip back into the Minnesota well for our future WR 1 again. Just a thought I had tonight You spelled "Olave" wrong in the title Quote
Rocbillsfan1 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) Pickens is going to get franchised if doesn’t get contract with cowboys. Doubs and Pierce Im ok with but they need to draft multiple WRs for once. Also don’t want an old and injured Evans on this team. Edited January 14 by Rocbillsfan1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 14 Posted January 14 22 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Alec Pierce, Jauan Jennings and Romeo Doubs are all upcoming UFAs and all guys we should be targeting as more "affordable" options than Pickens, though I think Pierce is going to get paid. I expect Pickens to get the tag if a deal isn't done. I don't see him as an option. I like Pierce, but as you said he's gonna get a big contract. Kinda a Christian Kirk from Jacksonville type overpay. And that's if the Colts allow him to see the open market. I'm skeptical that happens. I think Doubs is just ok and Jennings outside SF would be just a guy. Of course at this stage of neglect we can't split hairs. Whoever the best FA WRs are...that's who we need to get. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted January 14 Author Posted January 14 49 minutes ago, Virgil said: You spelled "Olave" wrong in the title Haha I wish I did. Shough had a real connection with Olave at the end of the season and was one of the best WRs in the league the last 5 weeks Quote
DCofNC Posted January 14 Posted January 14 8 hours ago, Gregg said: You can find WR's in the later rounds. For example, the Bills selected Andre Reed with the 86th pick in the 4th round of 1985 draft. Look at what Andre turned out to be for Bills. Puka is the best in the game, drafted late. 1 Quote
Victory Formation Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Doubs 3yrs $48M, 1st round pick on the best WR, Double down in RD3.. Quote
DCofNC Posted January 14 Posted January 14 7 hours ago, HappyDays said: Yep he's a diva. He also could be a 1,500 yard WR with Allen, and be the reason that we win some of those close games that perenially keep us out of the #1 seed and the Super Bowl. It's a no brainer if he's available. Right now he's unhappy because Jalen Hurts is only comfortable playing in a Mickey Mouse passing offense and he feels that his talents are being wasted. You would have to give him extra attention to keep him happy and occasionally feed him targets. That shouldn't make any Bills fan hesitate. You want players on your offense that deserve to be fed targets because they're just flat out better than the guy across from them. The same exact offense we have this year but with a legit stud outside could be unstoppable. Yeah, but the reason he’s mad is Philly is running the same garbage scheme we are. If anything they throw down field more. Quote
HappyDays Posted January 14 Posted January 14 15 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Yeah, but the reason he’s mad is Philly is running the same garbage scheme we are. If anything they throw down field more. It's an open secret in Philly that Hurts wants a super simple passing offense. Their OC just fell on the sword for him. There's a reason defenses have no problem game planning to stop all that talent. Brown isn't the only person in that organization that's sick of it, he's just the only person willing to show his frustration publicly. We haven't thrown the ball downfield because we haven't had the talent to do so. As soon as Cooks got here we suddenly manufactured a decent vertical passing offense, and Cooks at this stage of his career is the floor of what that can look like. AJ Brown is the Platonic ideal of what this offense is missing. I wanted us to trade for Metcalf. Brown is like that but on a whole 'nother level. It's a no brainer trade. If we don't make the trade, we'll have the displeasure of facing him twice (or thrice) a year when his former coach inevitably brings him in. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted January 15 Posted January 15 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Alec Pierce, Jauan Jennings and Romeo Doubs are all upcoming UFAs and all guys we should be targeting as more "affordable" options than Pickens, though I think Pierce is going to get paid. Please no Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: Imagine using AJ Brown and Stefon Diggs in the same sentence 😂 I mean diggs has more all pros, more pro bowls His best season is better than Brown's best season AJ Brown is younger.. if you both had the chance to take a 28-year-old diggs or brown diggs still has a lot more versatility, better route running , better awareness in zone He's just not jacked like AJ Brown Edited January 15 by Buffalo716 1 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 17 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: I’ll take Alec Pierce in FA…. Add in our 3rd round WR… Pierce, Shakir, Coleman, Cooks?, Rookie (Skyler Bell WR UConn) Cold Weather WRs…. Waddle, Addison I don’t think fit that mold IMO. I like Alec Pierce. Incredibly underrated WR by the general public. But he's going to get overpaid in FA. And Alec Pierce + a 3rd Rounder is not nearly enough. Outside of Shakir, Palmer (who will only be here bc it would cost a ton to cut him before Year 3), and Shavers (who we won't have to start the year anyways) - there isn't a WR that I can point to and say "they'll be here" and especially not "we can count on them". We're nowhere at WR. Pierce would be great. But you have to do a lot more than just Pierce and a Rd. 3 WR. Quote
HappyDays Posted January 15 Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I mean diggs has more all pros, more pro bowls His best season is better than Brown's best season AJ Brown is younger.. if you both had the chance to take a 28-year-old diggs or brown diggs still has a lot more versatility, better route running , better awareness in zone He's just not jacked like AJ Brown I put Brown in the same tier as Justin Jefferson and Ja'Marr Chase. Diggs as good as he was for us was never at that level. But I won't argue if you see if it differently. In any case trading a 1st for Diggs ended up being a roaring success regardless of how it ended. It was arguably the best use of a 1st round pick Beane has made other than Allen. Doing the same trade but on a player that has been even more successful than Diggs was pre-Buffalo is an absolute no brainer. The guy has made Ryan Tannehill and Jalen Hurts look like top tier QBs. 1 Quote
ticketssince61 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 11/23/2025 at 8:33 PM, gonzo1105 said: He’d be on a rookie deal for a year and a cheap 5th year. He’d have 2 years to prove he’s worth the money. I expect there to be some trade options. I only brought him up because I know the Bills really liked him coming out of USC/Pitt and he’s still only 23 if you can believe that Same age as Edmunds! Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) 15 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I put Brown in the same tier as Justin Jefferson and Ja'Marr Chase. Diggs as good as he was for us was never at that level. But I won't argue if you see if it differently. In any case trading a 1st for Diggs ended up being a roaring success regardless of how it ended. It was arguably the best use of a 1st round pick Beane has made other than Allen. Doing the same trade but on a player that has been even more successful than Diggs was pre-Buffalo is an absolute no brainer. The guy has made Ryan Tannehill and Jalen Hurts look like top tier QBs. I think AJ Brown is certainly a top 5-10 guy Don't think he's on a Justin Jefferson tier Jalen hurts and Ryan tannehill are both solid starting quarterbacks in the league and a solid starting quarterback can force feed the ball to a stud easily.. tannahill threw for 4000 yards in Miami twice... The bills have played for 65 years and we have five 4,000 yd seasons Guys like Josh Gordon went for like almost 1700 yards with ghosts at quarterback in Cleveland.. even a Ryan Fitzpatrick level quarterback can get the ball to a stud easily It's hard to say AJ Brown is a top three guy.. top 5-8 guy for sure His route running, leaves a lot to be desired and his consistency Diggs and him are probably in the same exact tier in their prime.. never really top three but solidly in the top 5-8.. AJ Brown just has more physicality but diggs has him on most wr traits from savviness to route running, awareness... Brown is closer to Eric moulds than Andrew Johnson and is inconsistent like it too Edited January 15 by Buffalo716 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted January 15 Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I put Brown in the same tier as Justin Jefferson and Ja'Marr Chase. Diggs as good as he was for us was never at that level. But I won't argue if you see if it differently. In any case trading a 1st for Diggs ended up being a roaring success regardless of how it ended. It was arguably the best use of a 1st round pick Beane has made other than Allen. Doing the same trade but on a player that has been even more successful than Diggs was pre-Buffalo is an absolute no brainer. The guy has made Ryan Tannehill and Jalen Hurts look like top tier QBs. Interesting. Personally, I would prefer Beane aggressively pursue Mike Evans first. Grab him real quick with a slight overpay of around $18M (Spotrac has market value at $13.3M). Sure, he is older and was injured, but back now and a real professional, non-diva, cultural fit type. Then, if it can be done , trade for one of the misplaced talented youngsters - Addison or MHJ. I would much prefer Evans and Addison over AJ Brown. Quote
HappyDays Posted January 15 Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: It's hard to say AJ Brown is a top three guy.. top eight guy top 10 guy for sure I just strongly disagree with this. For my money he's the very best in the NFL at winning vertical separation vs 1v1 coverage outside and the ball skills while not quite that good are still elite. When Philly decides to throw him the ball as much as his skill set deserves he racks up 100 yard games with ease. His usage there has been puzzling and I would love the opportunity to make it right. Quote
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