Alphadawg7 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: George Wilson? Wasn't he that receiver we converted to safety? Chan era.... you mean Garrett. I mean sure, make a call on him, not sure that is realistic though. On DJ Moore I think you are probably an offseason too early. I think the Bears can manipulate the cap to have one more all in run on rookie Caleb money. If he is good again they have to pay him after next season and would have to consider paying Rome too (though right now that is not a slam dunk to me) while you can still massage those numbers early it does mean highly paid guys in a position where you have younger legs becomes a luxury. I mean I am sure there is a price they'd do it this offseason... but I suspect its a 1st and some other picks. MHJ is interesting. They haven't switched GMs though. So you'd need the guy who spent a top 5 pick on him to admit he was wrong two years later. Not sure I see it. All calls worth making.... don't know that any of them are easy deals to do. AJ Brown is the most attainable, he is done in Philly but I haven't looked at how the contract fits and personality is an obvious question. Haha yes Garrett, it was late and didn’t catch typo haha. Yeah it might be a year early for DJ, but looking around the league for options, there aren’t many that could be available. If Bears get a call on DJ from Bills and we can offer something to help bolster the team elsewhere like a pick or player it could be of interest is my only thought. 2 hours ago, QB Bills said: AJ Brown has a dead cap hit of 72 million pre june 1 and 45 million post if they move on from him in the off-season. I'm not sure how dead cap works in regards to trades vs. flat-out cutting, but if its the same, I can't see the Eagles doing that. Wasn’t aware, I was more speculating on names in general than the logistics. Yeah that’s a tough dead cap hit if accurate Quote
noacls17 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 31 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Dude had another fairly petty arrest Sunday night for trespassing. Obviously not ideal, but with some creative thinking..... it is kinda ideal. His arrests are all fairly non-issues.... Vikes are tired of him, he needs a change of scenery and the arrests are going to make him INFINITELY cheaper. 1. Speeding. Was like 120 in 55mph. Dumb-dumb-dumb. However, was middle of night, empty thruway. Thakfully didnt hurt anyone, and isnt a football concern at the price he will cost. You have the best locker room in football? Fix this crazy skilled dummy. 2. DWI. This looks worse after the speeding thing, but again.... were talking athletes. Hes not Dahmer, Hernandez, or Darren Sharper. I dont care, neither should we. 3. Monday, he got told to leave a casino.... sounds like drunk disorderly kinda thing. Rang up 4 Trespassing Where is Mark Collins when you need him Quote
djp14150 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Mister Defense said: Yeah, I wanted Addison in the draft--a smaller, very fast, quick wideout who gets open. Josh has said those are the traits he wants most in a receiver. See: Beasley, Brown, Diggs... I was dumbfounded when the Bills actually drafted the exact opposite kind of player in Coleman! Made no sense, even though Allen said he wanted him too. I hope that McBeane do not stand firm in their philosophy they stated last year for players: BIG and fast. As the first quality would eliminate many many players who could really help take the offense to the next level. Like Addison, Flowers... You want both on teams. It’s rare you can get height and speed/quickness in one 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 14 Posted January 14 40 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Haha yes Garrett, it was late and didn’t catch typo haha. Yeah it might be a year early for DJ, but looking around the league for options, there aren’t many that could be available. If Bears get a call on DJ from Bills and we can offer something to help bolster the team elsewhere like a pick or player it could be of interest is my only thought. Beane (on the basis he is still here and at this point I'd be surprised but not shocked if he were fired) needs to turn over every stone. So I hope he reads all the options thrown out here and at least makes a call. Quote
HappyDays Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 hours ago, DCofNC said: I don’t care where they find a guy, just don’t go after AJ Brown, he’s a bigger douche and less reliable than Diggs and will leave us right back in the same spot in 2 years. No thank you. Yep he's a diva. He also could be a 1,500 yard WR with Allen, and be the reason that we win some of those close games that perenially keep us out of the #1 seed and the Super Bowl. It's a no brainer if he's available. Right now he's unhappy because Jalen Hurts is only comfortable playing in a Mickey Mouse passing offense and he feels that his talents are being wasted. You would have to give him extra attention to keep him happy and occasionally feed him targets. That shouldn't make any Bills fan hesitate. You want players on your offense that deserve to be fed targets because they're just flat out better than the guy across from them. The same exact offense we have this year but with a legit stud outside could be unstoppable. 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Seems like Addison has alcohol problems... Still, the Bills should absolutely be in on one of these "buy low" candidates for trade or FA. We should not be lamenting the loss of street FA Gabe Davis and bubble roster player Tyrell Shavers. We should have better depth than that... Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 14 Posted January 14 38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Beane (on the basis he is still here and at this point I'd be surprised but not shocked if he were fired) needs to turn over every stone. So I hope he reads all the options thrown out here and at least makes a call. We don't necessarily need a true alpha i don't think, but if we could come up with two high end #2 types, I think with the rest of the offense we could totally rock that. Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 14 Posted January 14 12 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: We don't necessarily need a true alpha i don't think, but if we could come up with two high end #2 types, I think with the rest of the offense we could totally rock that. Two high end 2s would be a significant upgrade. 2 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) I personally want a wr taken in the top 3 rds depending on value Another wr taken late with speed as a lottery pick Alec Pierce ufa & A trade for dynamic number 1 or high end number 2 Edited January 14 by Kelly to Allen 1 1 1 Quote
Sestak4ever Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: If they go WR in the 30s , I think a guy that would be on their radar is Germie Bernard from Alabama. Gets overshadowed by Ryan Williams not because he is lesser a receiver but is the steak more to Williams sizzle. Good intermediate route runner, excellent blocker, kind of guy the Bills I think would fall in love with as a person. Will he ever be a # 1 probably not but he’d be a solid 2 option for years Bernard is a great route runner and gets wide open, but Simpson would constantly miss the throws to him. I have seen him drop some also that hit him right in the hands. I think that could be fixed, at least to a point. I think he might be worth a shot. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Beane (on the basis he is still here and at this point I'd be surprised but not shocked if he were fired) needs to turn over every stone. So I hope he reads all the options thrown out here and at least makes a call. The one thing that I am encouraged about in terms of Beane (assuming he remains), is that he was very aggressive for a WR1 caliber player at the deadline. So my expectation is that will not change heading into the offseason. But the issue remains, what is realistically available as there isn't much in FA. So leaves just the draft and/or trades. And as we sit here today, there are not many obvious trade targets in terms of availability. Waddle situation is going to be interesting to follow with a new FO essentially facing a full rebuild there, or at least should be thinking full rebuild. So that would lead one to believe Waddle should be a trade option again. Although, not sure how Beane feels about going after him again or not after what seems to have gone down at the deadline. From everything I have heard from some people who have given me good information before, Grier and Beane had a deal pretty much worked out with Waddle to the Bills. But he got fired several days before the trade deadline, and after he was fired, the Fins suddenly were not so interested in the trade and changed everything on Beane. I am confident its why Beane was so mad at the trade deadline. The issue isn't so much that Miami changed the deal after Grier got fired, I mean part of why he was fired when he was fired probably had to do with them knowing they were making a change and not being on the same page with some of the trades he was looking at. The issue was from what my guy told me is that the belief is that Miami didn't change the deal until after other options the Bills were linked to have interest in were already traded. And if Miami "intentionally" led Beane to believe the deal was still in place to try and force his hand after his other targets were gone, then that is considered "taboo" around the league. Miami can hide behind the guise of "transition" and not being on the same page as Grier to point to no ill intentions, but there is some speculation and belief it was intentional to try and force an over pay. I don't know if we will ever know the accuracy of all this, but it does track with how things went down, Beane being so mad with a "trade" not getting done, and just what the buzz has been since. 1 1 Quote
Mister Defense Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 hours ago, billieve420 said: They went to the extreme opposite which has helped with them having the top rushing attack due to the strong blocking from the WRs. Need to find that happy medium between bigger/physical receivers with smaller/faster ones. Yes, well said, a good point. Though I think now, with the O line and tight ends we have, and hopefully keep, the #1 quality should be speed, quickness, separation ability and good hands--the blocking will need to be secondary. thought DK Metcalf could be that guy in free agency, last off season. But then I saw how much he was likely to make and changed my mind. Wideout in first or second round this year and also s high level free agent or trade too. Need a new outside receiver group next year, no more middle of the road hope and pray they come through types. None of those have worked out the last few years. False hope, that I keep falling for...Samuel, Moore, Palmer, Scantling etcetera etcetera etcetera..... Quote
FireChans Posted January 14 Posted January 14 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: On DJ Moore I think you are probably an offseason too early. I think the Bears can manipulate the cap to have one more all in run on rookie Caleb money. If he is good again they have to pay him after next season and would have to consider paying Rome too (though right now that is not a slam dunk to me) while you can still massage those numbers early it does mean highly paid guys in a position where you have younger legs becomes a luxury. I mean I am sure there is a price they'd do it this offseason... but I suspect its a 1st and some other picks We are a year or two late actually on DJ. He could’ve been had the last Eberflus year cheaper imo. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I'm keeping a CLOSE eye on Jacksonville. They traded for and invested in Jakobi Meyers. Parker Washington is a good WR. They have BTJ. And they have Travis Hunter coming back. I don't see them keeping all 4. I think Meyers and Hunter are the roster locks there. Maybe they can be convinced to move off one of the other two. 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted January 14 Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I'm keeping a CLOSE eye on Jacksonville. They traded for and invested in Jakobi Meyers. Parker Washington is a good WR. They have BTJ. And they have Travis Hunter coming back. I don't see them keeping all 4. I think Meyers and Hunter are the roster locks there. Maybe they can be convinced to move off one of the other two. Most teams feature multiple quality WRs on their roster. BJT is on a rookie contract, Hunter hasn’t completed a full season, Meyers received an extension, and Washington is cheap and has excellent chemistry with Lawrence. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 14 Posted January 14 11 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Most teams feature multiple quality WRs on their roster. BJT is on a rookie contract, Hunter hasn’t completed a full season, Meyers received an extension, and Washington is cheap and has excellent chemistry with Lawrence. All very true. Also true, BTJ was not drafted by this GM/HC. There seemed to be some bad vibes there. Rookie contract or not I could see the Jags moving him for some picks rather than logjam the WR room. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted January 14 Author Posted January 14 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I'm keeping a CLOSE eye on Jacksonville. They traded for and invested in Jakobi Meyers. Parker Washington is a good WR. They have BTJ. And they have Travis Hunter coming back. I don't see them keeping all 4. I think Meyers and Hunter are the roster locks there. Maybe they can be convinced to move off one of the other two. Hunter playing both ways I think is dead. He will be a CB only next year. Washington is their best WR in my opinion at this time and he’s on a dirt cheap contract (rookie 6th rounder) and BTJ is on a cheap 1st round rookie deal. Can’t see them moving them as their all a natural fit in the proper X,Z, F spot 1 1 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 14 Posted January 14 49 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Hunter playing both ways I think is dead. He will be a CB only next year. Washington is their best WR in my opinion at this time and he’s on a dirt cheap contract (rookie 6th rounder) and BTJ is on a cheap 1st round rookie deal. Can’t see them moving them as their all a natural fit in the proper X,Z, F spot Gladstone said today they still intend on him playing both ways. And in the event they end up keeping him on one side of the ball, I'm fairly certain their offensive HC is going to try and keep him on that side of the ball. Jacksonville seems intent on making Hunter the WR happen. Quote
BullBuchanan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 11/23/2025 at 10:17 PM, HappyDays said: It's a reasonable thought, however even though I like Addison I think he's capped out as a WR2. I'm looking for a true WR1. Of course I recognize that's easier said than done. With Miami probably making sweeping changes I'd circle back on Waddle and see if that's a viable option. Maybe check on Olave again if he and New Orleans can't come together on a deal. Or how about the wildest dreams ideas of AJ Brown or Justin Jefferson? Brown and Philly look headed for an inevitable separation. Minnesota might realize Jefferson is no help to them until they get a legit QB which a blockbuster deal could help them acquire. Some other name will be available that no one is talking about. Nobody thought Davante Adams or DK Metcalf would become trade candidates last year. There will be options. You watched AJ Brown play this year and that's who your dream player would be? He's worn out his welcome on two teams, and disappears in big games. Imagine running Diggs out of town and then trading for AJ Brown on a premium contract. Keep that dude as far away from this team as possible. 1 1 Quote
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