TNF Jets @ Pats... Bills discussion allowed as this directly affects us

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, gobills404 said:

 

That's a classy gesture 

 

She could be baby momma #5

[DapperCam]

14 minutes ago, DrPJax said:

Who has a record of 9-2 , vs a complacent group at 6-3 ?  Whose fans are concerned their qb has his head in a bad place , looks out of it, says same old I’ve got together better, whose fans are blaming his wife for his fumbles and ints?   Haha, you better be scared bro cuz you just had the division taken from you by a 2 nd year qb and first year HC with this pats franchise.  Bills are an embarrassment, prior players like Diggs and the bare foot wonder putting up 100 yard receiving gams while our great Coleman gets disciplined and can’t catch 50/50 balls like he was billed to do by Josh and Beane.   This division is over , and it took a single year.   Look at the passion viable has compared to boring Mcd now?    The bills have checked out on Mcd.  It’s obvious.  Mac hollins is better than any our soft wr group.  After knight , nothing to play for for the bills but maybe a wil card?  Mcd said prior to the season the one seed was imperative; how’s that going for Beane and him?  
 

yeah, you better be scared.  This just proves how Mcd wasted Josh’s career.  Bills win 2-3 games tops as secon goes. Sorry they realize now they have been passed and they are playing football like that.  Miami just beat them , badly , the bills who have never won a road playoff game under Mcd , are ready to fold. This isn’t the team happy to beat the draught , these are complacent , uninspired guys now who have no control. Yep, you don’t have to be scared , just wake up !

That's quite the rant. I'm not scared. It's possible the Pats win the division this year, but a lot of that has to do with having a 4th place division schedule. We've seen both Stroud and Daniels anointed as the next great QB both of the past 2 offseasons and both regressed with NFL defensive coordinators looking at the tape and game planning for them.

In fact, we haven't even seen Maye put together an entire great season yet, talk about jumping the gun!

[reddogblitz]

21 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

As far as Patriots history is concerned, they won all those Super Bowls without having to break a sweat so I guess it can work either way.

 

They won at least one on a last second FG.

[Low Positive]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

That's a classy gesture 

 

She could be baby momma #5

If she wasn’t before, she is now.

[PatsFanNH]

50 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Your new QB god Maye is 7/14 for 79 yards and a TD this half. Those stats are supposed to scare me?

He had a lot of drops! And he completed 74% of all his passes for the game and the O scored 27 points and most of the yards threw the air so… but I don’t know why you had such a jelly sounding post you have the reigning MVP the Pats have a 23 yr old yr 2 QB starting to come into his own he isn’t anywhere near his peak yet. 

[DapperCam]

Just now, PatsFanNH said:

He had a lot of drops! And he completed 74% of all his passes for the game and the O scored 27 points and most of the yards threw the air so… but I don’t know why you had such a jelly sounding post you have the reigning MVP the Pats have a 23 yr old yr 2 QB starting to come into his own he isn’t anywhere near his peak yet. 

I was just stating an objective fact. He was pretty pedestrian in the 2nd half. Blame it on drops if you want (I don't actually recall any drops, the bomb to Hollins got punched out with a nice play by the DB).

[Kelly to Allen]

Buffalo was 6-6 in 23, Miami with better weapons was 9-3

 

In 21 the bills were 7-6, pats were 9-4

 

 

The past doesn't equal the future but I'm not really concerned unless they lose to Tampa. If they beat Tampa and lose on Thurs to the Texans, I'll still feel pretty good, especially with 10 days off

 

We'll see what happens.

 

Buffalo imo is better built for the long run as the weather gets colder.

 

And even if the pats win the division, I still feel very strong that the bills will get to the AFC championship. I can't guarantee anything vs KC. 

 

 

[PatsFanNH]

2 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

I was just stating an objective fact. He was pretty pedestrian in the 2nd half. Blame it on drops if you want (I don't actually recall any drops, the bomb to Hollins got punched out with a nice play by the DB).

So a 50 yard bomb thrown perfectly and yes dropped he had it and lost it putting it away and one to Bunter the play before thrown perfectly but was knocked away by a great D play and he’s pedestrian? 9/10 both of those are complete and Hollins either scores or on the 4 yrs line.. but ya pedestrian would be having that completion percentage and the incomplete be all bad throws.. Diggs had one as well that they said he caught but he didn’t via replay

[DapperCam]

4 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

So a 50 yard bomb thrown perfectly and yes dropped he had it and lost it putting it away and one to Bunter the play before thrown perfectly but was knocked away by a great D play and he’s pedestrian? 9/10 both of those are complete and Hollins either scores or on the 4 yrs line.. but ya pedestrian would be having that completion percentage and the incomplete be all bad throws.. Diggs had one as well that they said he caught but he didn’t via replay

9/10 times a 50 yard bomb down the field isn't complete, LMAO. It's a low percentage play even when things go perfectly. A pass with that many air yards happens like 10 times per season in the whole NFL. And it wasn't a drop, the DB punched the ball out. It is actually because Maye throws such a lofty catchable ball that the DB was able to make up 5 yards of ground to make the play. It's called a "pass defended" and is an official stat.

And the Diggs "drop" was a highly difficulty play on a not perfectly accurate ball. You can't expect every circus catch not made to be considered a drop.

[Chicken Boo]

4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

That's fine. We didn't need a 700 yard WR in the offseason. We needed a 1,000 yard WR. I don't regret letting Hollins walk, at all. Palmer is legitimately a better WR than him IMO, we just needed a lot more than that.

 

No arguments there.  I've been trying to get at least one #1 in here since Dez Bryant declared.  

[Ghost_002!]

4 hours ago, DapperCam said:

9/10 times a 50 yard bomb down the field isn't complete, LMAO. It's a low percentage play even when things go perfectly. A pass with that many air yards happens like 10 times per season in the whole NFL. And it wasn't a drop, the DB punched the ball out. It is actually because Maye throws such a lofty catchable ball that the DB was able to make up 5 yards of ground to make the play. It's called a "pass defended" and is an official stat.

And the Diggs "drop" was a highly difficulty play on a not perfectly accurate ball. You can't expect every circus catch not made to be considered a drop.

The DB made a great play. Maye's bombs most of the time are put only where his receivers can catch them. Either they can catch them or dont (overthrown). Hadn't seen many DBs be able to make a play on his bombs. And there have been alot of them

Edited 4 hours ago by Ghost_002!

[mannc]

7 hours ago, DapperCam said:

That's quite the rant. I'm not scared. It's possible the Pats win the division this year, but a lot of that has to do with having a 4th place division schedule. 

Not really.  The Pats’ schedule advantage over Bills is from playing the Raiders instead of KC, Giants instead of Eagles, and Titans instead of Texans.  Other than that, the schedules are the same.  Pats lost to the Raiders and haven’t played the Giants yet, and the Bills haven’t played Philly or the Texans yet.  
 

The sad fact is that it’s going to get worse.  The Pats still have three more seasons after this one before Maye’s rookie deal expires, even though he’ll get an extension after next season. The Bills, meanwhile, squandered Josh Allen’s cheap rookie contract years, by surrounding him with bad coaches and mediocre offensive weapons. In fairness, Maye was also more NFL-ready than Josh was coming out of a small school, but it’s a tough pill to swallow.

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by mannc

[Livinginthepast]

Went to bed after the 3rd Q. I knew the Jets wouldnt have the depth/quality to keep up and sadly that unfolded. The Pats offense at the moment looks way more polished than ours. Mcdaniels has created a very easy offense for Maye to succeed in and at least 1/2 of his passes were wide open easy tosses. What scares me is the other half of his game. Maye threw some great passes last night in tight windows and a perfect touch deep ball to Hollins that was broken up, in my opinion much better than Josh looks right now. He definitely doesnt have Josh's legs but his escapability is sometimes as good. Hard to stomach that the Pats lucked out with a Herbert clone (who looks better than Herbert).

 

As for Diggs and Hollins, its salt in the wound. Diggs is a surprise because after that injury and the Meh year in Houston, I thought he was done but he looks pretty good. Hollins is taking off in NE where he left off with us. Letting him go was in the top 3 dumbest moves of the Beane era.

[mannc]

2 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

Went to bed after the 3rd Q. I knew the Jets wouldnt have the depth/quality to keep up and sadly that unfolded. The Pats offense at the moment looks way more polished than ours. Mcdaniels has created a very easy offense for Maye to succeed in and at least 1/2 of his passes were wide open easy tosses. What scares me is the other half of his game. Maye threw some great passes last night in tight windows and a perfect touch deep ball to Hollins that was broken up, in my opinion much better than Josh looks right now. He definitely doesnt have Josh's legs but his escapability is sometimes as good. Hard to stomach that the Pats lucked out with a Herbert clone (who looks better than Herbert).

 

As for Diggs and Hollins, its salt in the wound. Diggs is a surprise because after that injury and the Meh year in Houston, I thought he was done but he looks pretty good. Hollins is taking off in NE where he left off with us. Letting him go was in the top 3 dumbest moves of the Beane era.

The Hollins part is tough to take.  He really didn’t see the field much as a receiver for us last year, but now he’s a featured part of the offense in NE, along with our other cast-off, Diggs.  

[Dafan]

7 hours ago, DrPJax said:

Who has a record of 9-2 , vs a complacent group at 6-3 ?  Whose fans are concerned their qb has his head in a bad place , looks out of it, says same old I’ve got together better, whose fans are blaming his wife for his fumbles and ints?   Haha, you better be scared bro cuz you just had the division taken from you by a 2 nd year qb and first year HC with this pats franchise.  Bills are an embarrassment, prior players like Diggs and the bare foot wonder putting up 100 yard receiving gams while our great Coleman gets disciplined and can’t catch 50/50 balls like he was billed to do by Josh and Beane.   This division is over , and it took a single year.   Look at the passion viable has compared to boring Mcd now?    The bills have checked out on Mcd.  It’s obvious.  Mac hollins is better than any our soft wr group.  After knight , nothing to play for for the bills but maybe a wil card?  Mcd said prior to the season the one seed was imperative; how’s that going for Beane and him?  
 

yeah, you better be scared.  This just proves how Mcd wasted Josh’s career.  Bills win 2-3 games tops as secon goes. Sorry they realize now they have been passed and they are playing football like that.  Miami just beat them , badly , the bills who have never won a road playoff game under Mcd , are ready to fold. This isn’t the team happy to beat the draught , these are complacent , uninspired guys now who have no control. Yep, you don’t have to be scared , just wake up !

Where do you get a 1st year head coach lol?  Six years as Tennessee Head Coach says differently.

[PatsFanNH]

7 hours ago, DapperCam said:

9/10 times a 50 yard bomb down the field isn't complete, LMAO. It's a low percentage play even when things go perfectly. A pass with that many air yards happens like 10 times per season in the whole NFL. And it wasn't a drop, the DB punched the ball out. It is actually because Maye throws such a lofty catchable ball that the DB was able to make up 5 yards of ground to make the play. It's called a "pass defended" and is an official stat.

And the Diggs "drop" was a highly difficulty play on a not perfectly accurate ball. You can't expect every circus catch not made to be considered a drop.

See this shows how you haven’t seen much of Maye play. His completion percentage on long ball is over 74% and the fact you said that on a ball thrown perfectly is hilarious!!  Also it’s an official stat but again showing lack of knowledge they call a pass defended when the guy literally drops the ball. But yet Again he lost the ball when he was putting it away he should have. Kept hold of it.. 

As for Diggs he considers himself elite if you have you hands on it you make the catch.. and he believes that too..

Edited 1 hour ago by PatsFanNH

[stlbills13]

The Diggs drop was atrocious and I genuinely believed both the Bills and Diggs needed to move on

 

But seeing the patriots like this with 2 former Bills catching passes (especially downfield) while we move the all behind the LOS stings a lot

[PatsFanNH]

7 hours ago, DapperCam said:

That's quite the rant. I'm not scared. It's possible the Pats win the division this year, but a lot of that has to do with having a 4th place division schedule. We've seen both Stroud and Daniels anointed as the next great QB both of the past 2 offseasons and both regressed with NFL defensive coordinators looking at the tape and game planning for them.

In fact, we haven't even seen Maye put together an entire great season yet, talk about jumping the gun!

Drake Maye hasn’t even had the same OC for 2 seasons yet.. and DC are trying everything against him Blitzing putting max coverage etc.. so far nothing has consistently worked I give our OC credit for that.

 

As for the schedule the difference so far is in Buffalo favor on the difference in schedule (you bet KC we lost to LV). People make it sound like it’s a HUGE different schedule the truth is both teams have had a cake schedule except for a couple of games. The Bills lost one of their cake games.

[mannc]

1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:

 

As for the schedule the difference so far is in Buffalo favor on the difference in schedule (you bet KC we lost to LV). People make it sound like it’s a HUGE different schedule the truth is both teams have had a cake schedule except for a couple of games. The Bills lost one of their cake games.

100 percent correct.  There is a lot of wishful thinking around these parts…

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

That's a classy gesture 

 

She could be baby momma #5

"Wanna ball?"

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7 hours ago, DapperCam said:

That's quite the rant.

The doc rarely fails to entertain. 😁