CJ Stroud ruled for 2nd straight game with concussion

[Augie]

1 minute ago, Sojourner said:

Not really. Davis Mills was adequate, Tennessee are horrific. If you weren’t expecting the Texans to give him the extra week of rest I don’t know what to tell you anyone lol

 

It was more rhetorical, actually. It just seems like something that would happen to us.  

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

Joe Burrow. 

 

No way! Burrow does not count. Have to play meaningful snaps at the school.

[Sojourner]

7 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

It was more rhetorical, actually. It just seems like something that would happen to us.  

Oh, usually it’s the doom and gloom and that we get the wrong end of the stick. 
My apologies for taking it literal. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Justin Fields and give half credit for Joe Burrough. .

 

Dwayne sand troy Smith but your point is well taken, usually not good.

fields is terrible. I would argue Burrow doesn’t count because he never played more than a handful of snaps at Ohio State.

 

But isn’t it weird? One of the historically best programs in the country with the best groups of wide receivers, And they have never really fielded an elite pro QB. Just an interesting anomaly ! 

[BuffaloBillyG]

37 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I'm pretty sure he was a Michigan grad lol

I don't know. While he was there he made a lot of good plays happen for the Buckeyes lol

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Oh, usually it’s the doom and gloom and that we get the wrong end of the stick. 
My apologies for taking it literal. 

 

I foolishly expected a bunch of laugh emojis. Like I just fell off of the damn turnip truck! 

[Billsfanatic8989]

If he can't go Sunday, he probably won't start Thursday. 

 

That said, Davis Mills is certainly capable of shredding this secondary. 

[BVBILLS]

Bills have a practice squad defense

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

fields is terrible. I would argue Burrow doesn’t count because he never played more than a handful of snaps at Ohio State.

 

But isn’t it weird? One of the historically best programs in the country with the best groups of wide receivers, And they have never really fielded an elite pro QB. Just an interesting anomaly ! 

Maybe because when you have the skill positions of Ohio State you just need a prototypical college quarterback to get it done 

 

Colleges don't recruit kids based on their pro potential they recruit them based on how quickly they can help them in college... Tim Tebow one of the best college quarterbacks of all time 

 

Realistically those are the style of quarterbacks Ohio state has been recruiting for the majority.. athletic quarterbacks who can take advantage of great weapons 

 

Not exactly pure pocket passing Savants... Even when they get a good pocket passer they have three first round pick wide receivers so it's harder to gauge who's really doing more ... Even last year the kid from Kansas state was a running threat at Kansas State... All the passing weapons opened up his arm at Ohio state

 

 it's typically the wide receivers and running backs that open up things for Ohio State wide QBs 

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[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Maybe because when you have the skill positions of Ohio State you just need a prototypical college quarterback to get it done 

 

Colleges don't recruit kids based on their pro potential they recruit them based on how quickly they can help them in college... Tim Tebow one of the best college quarterbacks of all time 

 

Realistically those are the style of quarterbacks Ohio state has been recruiting for the majority.. athletic quarterbacks who can take advantage of great weapons 

 

Not exactly pure pocket passing Savants... Even when they get a good pocket passer they have three first round pick wide receivers so it's harder to gauge who's really doing more ... Even last year the kid from Kansas state was a running threat at Kansas State... All the passing weapons opened up his arm at Ohio state

 

 it's typically the wide receivers and running backs that open up things for Ohio State wide QBs 

agree with all of this. But do you think the absolute elite QB prospects shy away from Ohio State? I would think they would want to go to a place with great receivers. 

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

agree with all of this. But do you think the absolute elite QB prospects shy away from Ohio State? I would think they would want to go to a place with great receivers. 

Well that's what makes recruiting a crap shoot 

 

No they definitely get quarterbacks with NFL potential... They do get super talented guys 

 

But coaches are not developing quarterbacks in college for their NFL future... They're getting developed to beat Michigan and Iowa next week 

 

And schools like Ohio State also run slightly gimmicky spread offenses 

 

How a 18 to 23 year old quarterback develops is kind of a crap shoot.. you never know who's the late bloomer 

 

Again even someone like Joe burrow was at Ohio State.. but he was buried on the depth chart and could never see the field because I quote Urban Meyer 

 

He throws like a girl 

 

So a historical Blue blood program with a top shelf pocket passer doesn't even fit his mold... Like he was buried... Because he can't move and he had guys with stronger arms

 

It's because they had better athletes above him not better quarterbacks 

 

Do get guys like Julian saiyan.. who is a pocket passer with NFL potential 

 

But playing in that system... With those guys.. is not going to help him long run compared to quarterbacks who got it done with less for 4 years in college 

 

So being an Ohio State quarterback has perks... You have a lot of exposure... You're in a high scoring offense.. Blue blood program... Great wide receivers.. historically good running game 

 

That could actually sometimes limit the growth of a kid whose goal is to become a 10-year NFL starting quarterback.. saiyan is going to go to an NFL team where they don't protect him as well and they don't have as good as wide receivers 

 

Allen and mahomes were at not great football schools historically... didn't throw to a lot of NFL wide receivers, wasn't surrounded by five NFL linemen 

 

They actually had to grow as players... Ohio State quarterbacks do grow , but they don't face much adversity

 

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[Bills!Win!]

He will miraculously be cleared to play Thursday and inexplicably kick our butts

[Captain Hindsight]

16 hours ago, Augie said:

Does anyone else have a sick feeling that he will have a comeback game for the ages against us?   😂 

Burrow too

[RiotAct]

2 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

He will miraculously be cleared to play Thursday and inexplicably kick our butts

shades of J.J. Watt in the 2019 playoffs!

[Billsfanatic8989]

OSU gets great receivers, OL, and other perks. A QB's job is made much easier when guys are open by 10 yards on each play. And other young kids need to worry about the run. 

 

Well in the NFL, you aren't going to get access to all of the great receivers and OL. You have to hit a receiver open by two yards instead of ten. Defenses are much bigger, faster, stronger and smarter. Getting by on physical strengths alone is not enough. 

 

It's like going from multiplication to complicated algebra. 

 

So I agree with the poster above. 

 

 

Edited 11 minutes ago by Billsfanatic8989